Re: [Alsa-user] E-MU 1010m, ESI Juli@, M-Audio Audiophile or ... ?
Hey there ESI (Ego Sys) http://www.esi-audio.com/products/julia/ http://www.esi-pro.com/viewProduct.php?pid=43 Juli@ pros: manufacturer explicitly says: Linux compatible (ALSA)! :- cons: no TOSlink input (only output), coax SPDIF I/O via breakout adapter cable (is coax I/O transformer coupled???). chipset/driver: ice1724 what about real Linux support status? I can vouch for the Juli@ working on linux. I've used it before and it's been okay EXCEPT the fact that any use of the midi port (even connecting something to it with aconnect or qjackctl) caused my system to freeze up. Other than that it seemed to work fine. -- Chris Stranex rm-rf - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
[Alsa-user] E-MU 1010m, ESI Juli@, M-Audio Audiophile or ... ?
Hi everybody, after your kind suggestions, I have done some search in the pro and semi-pro sound card arena to find a suitable and affordable card for my needs. In the end, I have found a few possible candidates. According to the manufacturer specs, all of them are capable of bitperfect digital output (pass-through) as well as synchronization with an external clock source. I still can't decide for one, and am still looking for your advice. Here is a short table with a few comments. E-MU (Creative): http://www.emu.com/products/category.asp?category=505 0404 pros: transformer coupled coax SPDIF I/O; cons: I/O trough breakout adapter cables. chipset/driver: emu10k1-fpga Linux support status? 1212m pros: ditto + direct connections without adapters for both coax and TOSlink SPDIF I/O (also ADAT capable). cons: ? chipset/driver: emu10k1-fpga Linux support status? 1010m pros: same as 1212m, without analog board - should be cheaper; cons: no analog I/O; chipset/driver: emu10k1-fpga? would it work with Linux? ESI (Ego Sys) http://www.esi-audio.com/products/julia/ http://www.esi-pro.com/viewProduct.php?pid=43 Juli@ pros: manufacturer explicitly says: Linux compatible (ALSA)! :- cons: no TOSlink input (only output), coax SPDIF I/O via breakout adapter cable (is coax I/O transformer coupled???). chipset/driver: ice1724 what about real Linux support status? M-Audio http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=products.listID=pciinterfaces Audiophile 2496 pros: ? cons: no TOSlink, coax SPDIF I/O only via breakout adapter cable (is coax I/O transformer coupled???) chipset/driver: ice1712 Linux support status? Audiophile 192 pros: ? cons: no TOSlink, coax only (is coax I/O transformer coupled???) chipset/driver: ice1724 Linux support status? According to this, my order of preference would be E-MU 1212m (or maybe just 1010), followed by the 0404, the Juli@, the AP192 and AP2496. Nevertheless, the main problem -which may radically change preference- is Linux support. For the E-MU, Matrix says that support is only coming with ALSA version 1.0.15... I'm afraid it's a bit too early for these... :-? Are there other options? I was also thinking RMEs, but all of them looks way too much complicated and expensive for my needs. Same for well known digigram cards like the VX222 or VX442. Back to more consumer oriented, cheaper cards, what about the Onkyo SE-200PCI ? Perhaps, the cheapest options would be the nice Chaintech AV-710, but sadly it lacks digital input and any clock sync possibility. :-( Any other option? Comments? Suggestions? Tnx again. Ciao e grazie, Paolo. -- Skype: Paolo.Saggese http://borex.lngs.infn.it/saggese You can still escape from the GATES of hell: Use Linux! - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] E-MU 1010m, ESI Juli@, M-Audio Audiophile or ... ?
Hi Chris, On Tuesday 27 November 2007 18:59, Chris Stranex wrote: I can vouch for the Juli@ working on linux. I've used it before and it's been okay EXCEPT the fact that any use of the midi port (even connecting something to it with aconnect or qjackctl) caused my system to freeze up. Other than that it seemed to work fine. Tnx for the info. I will never need MIDI, so that's surely not a problem for me. :-) Do you happen to know whether the coax digital I/O are transformer coupled? An easy way to tell could be to check with a DVM (set to read out continuity or a low ohm range) whether or not the ground of the SPDIF I/O RCAs are connected to each other and/or analogue grounds. If they're transformer coupled (and the card properly designed), for DC they should be insulated from each other as well as from any other ground (no ground loops to mess things up...). Ciao, Paolo. -- Skype: Paolo.Saggese http://borex.lngs.infn.it/saggese You can still escape from the GATES of hell: Use Linux! - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] E-MU 1010m, ESI Juli@, M-Audio Audiophile or ... ?
Paolo Saggese wrote: Hi everybody, after your kind suggestions, I have done some search in the pro and semi-pro sound card arena to find a suitable and affordable card for my needs. In the end, I have found a few possible candidates. According to the manufacturer specs, all of them are capable of bitperfect digital output (pass-through) as well as synchronization with an external clock source. I still can't decide for one, and am still looking for your advice. Here is a short table with a few comments. E-MU (Creative): http://www.emu.com/products/category.asp?category=505 0404 pros: transformer coupled coax SPDIF I/O; cons: I/O trough breakout adapter cables. chipset/driver: emu10k1-fpga Linux support status? 1212m pros: ditto + direct connections without adapters for both coax and TOSlink SPDIF I/O (also ADAT capable). cons: ? chipset/driver: emu10k1-fpga Linux support status? 1010m pros: same as 1212m, without analog board - should be cheaper; cons: no analog I/O; chipset/driver: emu10k1-fpga? would it work with Linux? ESI (Ego Sys) http://www.esi-audio.com/products/julia/ http://www.esi-pro.com/viewProduct.php?pid=43 Juli@ pros: manufacturer explicitly says: Linux compatible (ALSA)! :- cons: no TOSlink input (only output), coax SPDIF I/O via breakout adapter cable (is coax I/O transformer coupled???). chipset/driver: ice1724 what about real Linux support status? M-Audio http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=products.listID=pciinterfaces Audiophile 2496 pros: ? cons: no TOSlink, coax SPDIF I/O only via breakout adapter cable (is coax I/O transformer coupled???) chipset/driver: ice1712 Linux support status? Audiophile 192 pros: ? cons: no TOSlink, coax only (is coax I/O transformer coupled???) chipset/driver: ice1724 Linux support status? According to this, my order of preference would be E-MU 1212m (or maybe just 1010), followed by the 0404, the Juli@, the AP192 and AP2496. Nevertheless, the main problem -which may radically change preference- is Linux support. For the E-MU, Matrix says that support is only coming with ALSA version 1.0.15... I'm afraid it's a bit too early for these... :-? Are there other options? I was also thinking RMEs, but all of them looks way too much complicated and expensive for my needs. Same for well known digigram cards like the VX222 or VX442. Back to more consumer oriented, cheaper cards, what about the Onkyo SE-200PCI ? Perhaps, the cheapest options would be the nice Chaintech AV-710, but sadly it lacks digital input and any clock sync possibility. :-( Any other option? Comments? Suggestions? Tnx again. Ciao e grazie, Paolo. I write the ALSA driver for the E-Mu cards, and the current state of support (if you use the ALSA hg repository) is described at: https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/wiki/wikka.php?wakka=emu - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
[Alsa-user] E-MU 1010m, ESI Juli@, M-Audio Audiophile or ... ?
Paolo Saggese wrote: Hi everybody, after your kind suggestions, I have done some search in the pro and semi-pro sound card arena to find a suitable and affordable card for my needs. In the end, I have found a few possible candidates. According to the manufacturer specs, all of them are capable of bitperfect digital output (pass-through) as well as synchronization with an external clock source. I still can't decide for one, and am still looking for your advice. Here is a short table with a few comments. E-MU (Creative): http://www.emu.com/products/category.asp?category=505 0404 pros: transformer coupled coax SPDIF I/O; cons: I/O trough breakout adapter cables. chipset/driver: emu10k1-fpga Linux support status? 1212m pros: ditto + direct connections without adapters for both coax and TOSlink SPDIF I/O (also ADAT capable). cons: ? chipset/driver: emu10k1-fpga Linux support status? I am running the emu1212m. It's fine. I had to install the latest (as of a few months ago) alsa. Also, the frequency was wrong in alsa, by default - I had to set it in alsamixer and it has been fine ever since. Chris snip - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
