Re: [Alsa-user] alsa sound problem

2006-10-02 Thread Bob


Lee Revell wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 10:40 -0700, Bob wrote:
>> Okay. But since the OP did not mention a specific sound card I assumed
>> that you meant that mixing didn't work until 1.0.9 ... and that it did
>> on 1.0.9 and later. I guess the part that I don't get is why the card 
>> would make a difference ... doesn't alsa just take multiple inputs
>> from the sound port and mix them and then output to the card? After
>> all, isn't that what a software abstraction layer is for? 
> 
> The card matters because some devices handle this mixing themselves, and
> it would be inefficient for ALSA to do it also in software.  So ALSA
> needs to know which cards lack hardware mixing support.
> 
> This was enabled for most cards in 1.0.9 but the ICE1712 and ICE1724
> were overlooked.

That clears things up very much. Thank you. Guess I better get an update 
installed!

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Re: [Alsa-user] alsa sound problem

2006-10-02 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 10:40 -0700, Bob wrote:
> Okay. But since the OP did not mention a specific sound card I assumed
> that you meant that mixing didn't work until 1.0.9 ... and that it did
> on 1.0.9 and later. I guess the part that I don't get is why the card 
> would make a difference ... doesn't alsa just take multiple inputs
> from the sound port and mix them and then output to the card? After
> all, isn't that what a software abstraction layer is for? 

The card matters because some devices handle this mixing themselves, and
it would be inefficient for ALSA to do it also in software.  So ALSA
needs to know which cards lack hardware mixing support.

This was enabled for most cards in 1.0.9 but the ICE1712 and ICE1724
were overlooked.

Lee




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Re: [Alsa-user] alsa sound problem

2006-10-02 Thread Bob


Lee Revell wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 10:20 -0700, Bob wrote:
>> Lee Revell wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 14:00 +0300, Martin Ivanov wrote:
 Hello!
 I am running Slackware Linux 10.2 with kernel 2.4.31
 My question is as follows:
 When I listen to music for example in xine or any other player, no other 
 sound application is able to run, for example if I am listening to music 
 and someone try to call me in skype, he can not do that. I have noticed 
 that at X shoutdown alsa complains about being unable to open slave.
 In windows one can play several sound applications simultaneously. I do 
 not believe it is impossible in Slackware.
 I would be thankful if you suggest me some solution.
 I thank you in advance.

>>> Your ALSA version is probably too old.  This should work by default in
>>> ALSA 1.0.9 or later.
>> I _thought_ I'd asked the same question in regard to my newly installed 
>> soundcard and was told about all the different programs which don't play 
>> nicely with ALSA. However, I am running ALSA 1.0.9b and I WAS getting 
>> multiple input via my cheap builtin motherboard soundcard. But, with the 
>> new card (maudio audiophile 2496) I get only one application at a time. 
>> Just like the OP on this thread.
>>
>> I think there is a minor config issue, but damned if I can figure out what.
> 
> You need a newer version than 1.0.9b to get automatic mixing with that
> card.

Okay. But since the OP did not mention a specific sound card I assumed 
that you meant that mixing didn't work until 1.0.9 ... and that it did 
on 1.0.9 and later. I guess the part that I don't get is why the card 
would make a difference ... doesn't alsa just take multiple inputs from 
the sound port and mix them and then output to the card? After all, 
isn't that what a software abstraction layer is for?

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Re: [Alsa-user] alsa sound problem

2006-10-02 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 10:20 -0700, Bob wrote:
> 
> Lee Revell wrote:
> > On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 14:00 +0300, Martin Ivanov wrote:
> >> Hello!
> >> I am running Slackware Linux 10.2 with kernel 2.4.31
> >> My question is as follows:
> >> When I listen to music for example in xine or any other player, no other 
> >> sound application is able to run, for example if I am listening to music 
> >> and someone try to call me in skype, he can not do that. I have noticed 
> >> that at X shoutdown alsa complains about being unable to open slave.
> >> In windows one can play several sound applications simultaneously. I do 
> >> not believe it is impossible in Slackware.
> >> I would be thankful if you suggest me some solution.
> >> I thank you in advance.
> >>
> > 
> > Your ALSA version is probably too old.  This should work by default in
> > ALSA 1.0.9 or later.
> 
> I _thought_ I'd asked the same question in regard to my newly installed 
> soundcard and was told about all the different programs which don't play 
> nicely with ALSA. However, I am running ALSA 1.0.9b and I WAS getting 
> multiple input via my cheap builtin motherboard soundcard. But, with the 
> new card (maudio audiophile 2496) I get only one application at a time. 
> Just like the OP on this thread.
> 
> I think there is a minor config issue, but damned if I can figure out what.

You need a newer version than 1.0.9b to get automatic mixing with that
card.

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] alsa sound problem

2006-10-02 Thread Bob


Lee Revell wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 14:00 +0300, Martin Ivanov wrote:
>> Hello!
>> I am running Slackware Linux 10.2 with kernel 2.4.31
>> My question is as follows:
>> When I listen to music for example in xine or any other player, no other 
>> sound application is able to run, for example if I am listening to music and 
>> someone try to call me in skype, he can not do that. I have noticed that at 
>> X shoutdown alsa complains about being unable to open slave.
>> In windows one can play several sound applications simultaneously. I do not 
>> believe it is impossible in Slackware.
>> I would be thankful if you suggest me some solution.
>> I thank you in advance.
>>
> 
> Your ALSA version is probably too old.  This should work by default in
> ALSA 1.0.9 or later.

I _thought_ I'd asked the same question in regard to my newly installed 
soundcard and was told about all the different programs which don't play 
nicely with ALSA. However, I am running ALSA 1.0.9b and I WAS getting 
multiple input via my cheap builtin motherboard soundcard. But, with the 
new card (maudio audiophile 2496) I get only one application at a time. 
Just like the OP on this thread.

I think there is a minor config issue, but damned if I can figure out what.

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Re: [Alsa-user] alsa sound problem

2006-10-02 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 14:00 +0300, Martin Ivanov wrote:
> Hello!
> I am running Slackware Linux 10.2 with kernel 2.4.31
> My question is as follows:
> When I listen to music for example in xine or any other player, no other 
> sound application is able to run, for example if I am listening to music and 
> someone try to call me in skype, he can not do that. I have noticed that at X 
> shoutdown alsa complains about being unable to open slave.
> In windows one can play several sound applications simultaneously. I do not 
> believe it is impossible in Slackware.
> I would be thankful if you suggest me some solution.
> I thank you in advance.
> 

Your ALSA version is probably too old.  This should work by default in
ALSA 1.0.9 or later.

> Regards,
> Martin
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