What aren't need of amRecover

2001-12-11 Thread BRINER Cedric

hi,

I would like to know what exactly need amrecover:
?index
?curinfo
?log files
?amdump

Because I would like to know which files I can remove
in the DB of amanda to save some space my HD



Re: full backups all the time not working

2001-12-11 Thread Martin Hepworth



Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 at 9:32am, Martin Hepworth wrote
> 
> 
>>However when I try and do an 'archive' backup set that should use the 
>>'always-full' and 'always-fulltar' dump styles I get failures like the 
>>following for all disks on the disklist even the local machine.
>>
>>  sol/usr lev 0 FAILED [can't switch to incremental dump]
>>
> 
> What exactly does your dumptype look like?  What do you have for 
> dumpcycle/runspercycle/tapecycle?
> 
> This is what I use for our archival setup:
> 
> dumpcycle 0 days  # Can also be specified in dumptype
> runspercycle 1# Doesn't matter
> tapecycle 1000 tapes# Always a new one..
> 
> define dumptype always-full {
> global
> comment "Full dump of this filesystem always"
> program "GNUTAR"
> priority high
> compress none
> record no
> }
> 
> Where global contains only 'index yes'.  You want to set 'record no' 
> otherwise the archive setup will interfere with incrementals on the daily 
> setup.
> 
> 

nope still no luck.


here's my amanda.conf...

org "Archive"   # your organization name for reports
mailto "root"   # space separated list of operators at your site
dumpuser "amanda"   # the user to run dumps under

inparallel 3# maximum dumpers that will run in parallel
maxdumps 2  # maximum number of dumpers per client
netusage  6000 Kbps # maximum net bandwidth for Amanda, in KB per sec

dumpcycle 0 # the number of days in the normal dump cycle
runspercycle 1 # the number of amdump runs in dumpcycle days
 # (4 weeks * 5 amdump runs per week -- just 
weekdays)
tapecycle 2000 tapes
bumpsize 20 Mb
bumpdays 1
bumpmult 4

etimeout 300
runtapes 1
tapedev "/dev/nsa0" # the no-rewind tape device to be used
rawtapedev "/dev/nrsa0" # the raw device to be used (ftape only)
changerdev "/dev/null"

define tapetype HPDLT {
 comment "DLT1"
 length 40960 mbytes
 filemark 0 kbytes
 speed 1407 kps
}


define dumptype global {
 comment "Global definitions"
 index yes
 # record no
}

define dumptype always-full {
 global
 comment "Full dump of this filesystem always"
 #compress none
 compress server fast
 priority high
 dumpcycle 0
 record no
}

define dumptype always-fulltar {
 global
 comment "Full dump of this filesystem always"
 program "GNUTAR"
 #compress none
 compress server fast
 priority high
 dumpcycle 0
 record no
}





Re: [Amanda-users] amverify failing alot.

2001-12-11 Thread Jason Thomas

at last, the block size fixed the backups, using 4096 was the answer.
the reason why it still looked like it had failed was because the second
tape had stuff on it from a previous attempt that failed. so amverify
was checking all tapes even though I'd only used the first one. once I
relabeled the tape and rerun amverify everything was sweet.

Thanks to all who helped.

On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 06:35:01PM +1100, Jason Thomas wrote:
> Hi after 2 years of struggling with this crap and getting no where, can
> anyone help me figure out what is causing these errors.
> 
> it seems to be random doesn't matter which tape or drive I use they all
> do it. even changing machine and scsi controllers doesn't fix the
> problem.
> 
> is it something I'm doing wrong.
> 
> after playing with another tape backup product I found that it used a
> block size of 4096 for my tape drive (not 0 like everyone keeps telling
> me to use), so I changed to this and it seems to have made amverify fail
> less, but hasn't fixed the problem all together.



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Re: What aren't need of amRecover

2001-12-11 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain

On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 at 9:36am, BRINER Cedric wrote

> I would like to know what exactly need amrecover:
>   ?index
Yes.

>   ?curinfo
Not necessarily by amrecover, but amdump needs these.

>   ?log files
>   ?amdump

IIRC, the log files are needed by amrecover, and I'm not sure about 
the amdump files.

> Because I would like to know which files I can remove
> in the DB of amanda to save some space my HD

Keep in mind that amanda does it's own housekeeping -- only tapecycle 
'log's and 'amdump.n's are kept.  So I would deem all of it "important".  
Hard drive space is cheap.  ;)

-- 
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University




Re: full backups all the time not working

2001-12-11 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain

On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 at 9:29am, Martin Hepworth wrote

> nope still no luck.

Somewhat random question -- there *is* a tape in the drive when you run 
amdump, right?  IOW, these aren't degraded mode dumps, right?

> here's my amanda.conf...
> 
That all looks good.  *sigh*  How about sending an email from one of your 
runs, as well as the amdump.n and the log.*.

-- 
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University




RE: Newbie: Can't get amanda user to work

2001-12-11 Thread Rebecca Pakish

>Yet, I have a .amandahosts file with what I think are the proper
>contents and permissions:
>admin:/home/amanda # ll /home/amanda/.amandahosts 
>-rw-r--r--1 amanda   disk   30 Dec 10 16:36
>/home/amanda/.amandahosts
>admin:/home/amanda # cat /home/amanda/.amandahosts   
>admin   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>admin:/home/amanda # 

In .amandahosts on the server, you want an entry that reads:

clientname root

In .amandahosts on the client, you want an entry that reads:

servername amanda

Your permissions look fine. (Though I chmod 600 .amandahosts myself) Make
sure clientname and servername are fully qualified (i.e.
servername.jhuccp.org, clientname.jhuccp.org) 

Good luck!
rap



Re: Newbie: Can't get amanda user to work

2001-12-11 Thread KEVIN ZEMBOWER

Thank you to all the generous folks who have given me suggestions.
Unfortunately, I still can't get it to work. I still get the same error
massage with "[access as amanda not allowed from
[EMAIL PROTECTED]]".

Here's some clarification on my system. I'm trying to backup the
tapeserver. My tape is on a machine called admin.jhuccp.org. The userID
for both client and server is "amanda", group is "disk".

I've tried all these variations in the /home/amanda/.amandahosts and
/var/lib/amanda/.amandahosts files (one at a time; the comments are how
I kept track of what I tried):
admin:/home/amanda # cat .amandahosts 
#admin.jhuccp.org   amanda.admin.jhuccp.org
#admin  amanda.admin.jhuccp.org
admin   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#admin  amanda
#admin.jhuccp.org   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
admin:/home/amanda # 

Both files are owned by amanda:disk and have 0600 permissions.

As an aside, is it still necessary to have both
/var/lib/amanda/.amandahosts and  /home/amanda/.amandahosts files? Do
they have to be the same?

My /etc/inetd.conf and /etc/services were patched by 'patch-system':
admin:/home/amanda # grep amanda /etc/services
amanda 10080/udp
amanda 10080/tcp
kamanda 10081/udp
amandaidx 10082/tcp
admin:/home/amanda # grep amanda /etc/inetd.conf
# amanda backup server with indexing capabilities
# amandaidx stream  tcp nowait  root   
/usr/lib/amanda/amindexd amindexd
# amidxtape stream  tcp nowait  root   
/usr/lib/amanda/amidxtaped amidxtaped
# amanda backup client
# amandadgram   udp waitamanda  /usr/lib/amanda/amandad
amandad
amandadgram  udp wait   amanda /usr/local/libexec/amandad   
amandad
amandaidx stream tcp nowait amanda /usr/local/libexec/amindexd  
amindexd
amidxtape stream tcp nowait amanda /usr/local/libexec/amidxtaped
amidxtaped
admin:/home/amanda # 

Any additional suggestions?

Thanks for continuing to think about this.

-Kevin Zembower

-
E. Kevin Zembower
Unix Administrator
Johns Hopkins University/Center for Communications Programs
111 Market Place, Suite 310
Baltimore, MD  21202
410-659-6139

>>> Ana Maria Escalante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/10/01 08:32PM
>>>
Hi Kevin:
 I am not sure if I understood everything from your message, but it
is
not clear to me, which user will be doing the backups from the server
(amanda is the default user) and whether your client machine is the
same
as your server.
 You must have a .amandahosts file in the client amanda home
directory, that gives access to amanda user from the server machine.
 In my setup, my backup admin acount is amanda, my server is
server.domain.mx and my client is client.domain.mx. I have an
.amandahosts
file in amanda s home directory in the client with the following
line:

server.domain.mxamanda

 You will also need an .amandahosts file in the server s amanda
s home
directory, with the client machines name and root as the authorized
user,
in order to recover from the clients, but that is another story.
 If you have a .rhosts file in your clients amanda s home
directory,
it must have this same line. I have heard about it :)
 Hope this helps. Good luck ... Ana Maria

On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, KEVIN ZEMBOWER wrote:

> I'm trying to get my first setup of amanda working. Running amcheck
> gives me:
> admin:/home/amanda # su amanda -c "/usr/local/sbin/amcheck
DailySet1"
> Amanda Tape Server Host Check
> -
> Holding disk /var/amanda: 5807968 KB disk space available, that's
> plenty
> NOTE: skipping tape-writable test
> Tape DailySet101 label ok
> NOTE: info dir /var/log/amanda/DailySet1/curinfo/admin/sdb1: does
not
> exist
> NOTE: info dir /var/log/amanda/DailySet1/curinfo/admin/sda1: does
not
> exist
> NOTE: info dir /var/log/amanda/DailySet1/curinfo/admin/sda3: does
not
> exist
> Server check took 16.516 seconds
> 
> Amanda Backup Client Hosts Check
> 
> ERROR: admin: [access as amanda not allowed from
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] amandahostsauth failed
> Client check: 1 host checked in 0.029 seconds, 1 problem found
> 
> (brought to you by Amanda 2.4.3b1)
> admin:/home/amanda # 
> 
> Yet, I have a .amandahosts file with what I think are the proper
> contents and permissions:
> admin:/home/amanda # ll /home/amanda/.amandahosts 
> -rw-r--r--1 amanda   disk   30 Dec 10 16:36
> /home/amanda/.amandahosts
> admin:/home/amanda # cat /home/amanda/.amandahosts   
> admin   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> admin:/home/amanda # 
> 
> I'm stumped. I've tried or checked all the suggestions in the
> FAQ-a-matic for this topic. It's probably something simple, that I
don't
> see because I'm new to amanda. Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> -Kevin Zembower
> 
> -
> E. Kevin Zembower
> Unix Administrator
> Johns Hopkins University/Center for Communications Programs
> 111 Market Place, Suite 310
> Baltimore, MD  21202
> 410-659-6139
> 




Re: full backups all the time not working

2001-12-11 Thread Martin Hepworth



Tried all that and same error

Joshua has commented that there may be issues if there's no tape in the 
drive, which is our case, as we'd like to do normally nightly backups 
and use this as the archive to be moved to somewhere else and kept for 
ever...

If this doesn't work "I'll be back(tm)" with some log dumps.

--
Martin





Win32 client portrange...

2001-12-11 Thread Chris Noon

Hello all,
I'm trying to get the win32 client up and running.  I followed Kurt Yoder's
instructions (below), but amcheck is still timing out.  I'm almost certain
that it has to do with the tcp/ip ports amanda is using.  My server was
compiled with the following:
--with-portrange=5,50100 --with-udpportrange=850,860

I'm running the win32 client with the following command:
start amandad -tcp=5,50100 -udp=850,860 -no-exit

I've tried many permutations of that command, but with no luck.  Any one
have some insight on how to correctly specify tcp/udp ports to the win32
client?

Many thanks in advance,

Chris Noon
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kurt Yoder
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 2:29 PM
To: Jon LaBadie
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Win32 client setup


Jon LaBadie wrote:
> I did not feel the installation instructions were too clear.
> Maybe I have not found the correct ones.  Pointers?

This is very true; I had to fiddle a bit to make it work. Here's what I
did:

-download the "amanda-clients-bin" latest zip file and unzip it
-make a folder "usr" in one of your drives
-move the amanda folder into it; path to binaries should be
\usr\amanda\bin and so forth
-copy pw32.8.dll from the "bin" folder to "libexec" and "sbin" folders
-copy \usr\amanda\share\amanda-win32-clients\.amandahosts to
\usr\amanda\etc\amanda\
-add your amanda master to the \usr\amanda\etc\amanda\.amandahosts
-start your amanda test: run \usr\amanda\libexec\rc.amandad.bat (an
empty dos window should pop up)
-add entries to the amanda master's disklist; use the form "
/mnt_ ", one for each disk on each nt host; my
disklist entry for my nt host looks like "gandalf /mnt_c user-tar", etc
-run amcheck on the master, make sure you see the server connecting on
the nt host; you should see its name show up in the window on the nt
machine that rc.amandad.bat opened
-if the test was successful, close rc.amandad.bat and install
\usr\amanda\libexec\amandad.exe as a service named "amandad" (use
srvany.exe from the nt resource kit for this); service should be a
system account and start up automatically
-suggested registry entries for the amandad service are in
\usr\amanda\share\amanda\amandad.reg; double click on this file to
install its keys
-make sure the drive letter and path in the registry's
hklm/system/ccs/services/amandad/parameters key matches where
amandad.exe is actually installed
-start up the amandad service

> Two questions, does the W32 client anticipate the cygwin package
> is installed on the M$ box?  Though I did not see it stated, I
> got that impression.

Cygwin is not necessary.

> Second, I came across a page describing environment variables
> that need be set.  Something about the PW32 environment (Posix
> Win 32??).  Are these set on the unix amanda server or on the
> client when started from the service routines?

I didn't set any environment variables on the NT machine.




Re: Newbie: Can't get amanda user to work

2001-12-11 Thread KEVIN ZEMBOWER

Thank you for your clarifying question, Jon.

Yes, the machine name is "admin" and the user name is "amanda".

I tried:
admin amanda
admin.jhuccp.org amanda
admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
admin.jhuccp.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

So far, no joy.

Oddly enough, I've gone ahead and added two other hosts. When I run
amcheck now, it says:
Amanda Backup Client Hosts Check

ERROR: admin: [access as amanda not allowed from
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] amandahostsauth failed
Client check: 3 hosts checked in 0.049 seconds, 1 problem found

>From this, I take it that the other two hosts are okay. Is this a good
assumption?

Thanks, again, for taking the time to write.

-Kevin Zembower

>>> Jon LaBadie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/11/01 11:30AM >>>
On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 10:02:36AM -0500, KEVIN ZEMBOWER wrote:
> Thank you to all the generous folks who have given me suggestions.
> Unfortunately, I still can't get it to work. I still get the same
error
> massage with "[access as amanda not allowed from
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]]".
> 
> Here's some clarification on my system. I'm trying to backup the
> tapeserver. My tape is on a machine called admin.jhuccp.org. The
userID
> for both client and server is "amanda", group is "disk".
> 
> I've tried all these variations in the /home/amanda/.amandahosts and
> /var/lib/amanda/.amandahosts files (one at a time; the comments are
how
> I kept track of what I tried):
> admin:/home/amanda # cat .amandahosts 
> #admin.jhuccp.org   amanda.admin.jhuccp.org
> #admin  amanda.admin.jhuccp.org
> admin   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> #admin  amanda
> #admin.jhuccp.org   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> admin:/home/amanda # 

>>> End of included message <<<

I don't use this mechanism myself, but weren't the suggestions for
the format "machine_name   user_name"

I.e.  I think the appropriate line might be "admin.jhuccp.org   
amanda"

-- 
Jon H. LaBadie  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 JG Computing   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 4455 Province Line Road(609) 252-0159
 Princeton, NJ  08540-4322  (609) 683-7220 (fax)



Re: Newbie: Can't get amanda user to work

2001-12-11 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain

On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 at 10:02am, KEVIN ZEMBOWER wrote

> Thank you to all the generous folks who have given me suggestions.
> Unfortunately, I still can't get it to work. I still get the same error
> massage with "[access as amanda not allowed from
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]]".
> 
> Here's some clarification on my system. I'm trying to backup the
> tapeserver. My tape is on a machine called admin.jhuccp.org. The userID
> for both client and server is "amanda", group is "disk".

I thought there was only one machine -- what do you mean "for both client 
and server"?

> I've tried all these variations in the /home/amanda/.amandahosts and
> /var/lib/amanda/.amandahosts files (one at a time; the comments are how
> I kept track of what I tried):
> admin:/home/amanda # cat .amandahosts 
> #admin.jhuccp.org   amanda.admin.jhuccp.org
> #admin  amanda.admin.jhuccp.org
> admin   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> #admin  amanda
> #admin.jhuccp.org   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> admin:/home/amanda # 

You still haven't hit the write one.  The format is 'machinename user'
So, /home/amanda/.amandahosts should include:

admin.jhuccp.orgamanda

Other questions -- are you sure that /home/amanda is the home directory of 
the amanda user?  It's listed in /etc/passwd.

> As an aside, is it still necessary to have both
> /var/lib/amanda/.amandahosts and  /home/amanda/.amandahosts files? Do
> they have to be the same?

AFAIK, it never was necessary.  The only .amandahosts you need resides in 
~amanda.

> Any additional suggestions?

What OS/distro are you using -- that's helpful info.

-- 
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University




Re: Newbie: Can't get amanda user to work

2001-12-11 Thread Frank Smith

Have you tried:

admin.jhuccp.orgamanda

in ~amanda/.amandahosts


Frank


--On Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:02:36 -0500 KEVIN ZEMBOWER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> Thank you to all the generous folks who have given me suggestions.
> Unfortunately, I still can't get it to work. I still get the same error
> massage with "[access as amanda not allowed from
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]]".
>
> Here's some clarification on my system. I'm trying to backup the
> tapeserver. My tape is on a machine called admin.jhuccp.org. The userID
> for both client and server is "amanda", group is "disk".
>
> I've tried all these variations in the /home/amanda/.amandahosts and
> /var/lib/amanda/.amandahosts files (one at a time; the comments are how
> I kept track of what I tried):
> admin:/home/amanda # cat .amandahosts
># admin.jhuccp.org   amanda.admin.jhuccp.org
># admin  amanda.admin.jhuccp.org
> admin   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
># admin  amanda
># admin.jhuccp.org   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> admin:/home/amanda #
>
> Both files are owned by amanda:disk and have 0600 permissions.
>
> As an aside, is it still necessary to have both
> /var/lib/amanda/.amandahosts and  /home/amanda/.amandahosts files? Do
> they have to be the same?
>
> My /etc/inetd.conf and /etc/services were patched by 'patch-system':
> admin:/home/amanda # grep amanda /etc/services
> amanda 10080/udp
> amanda 10080/tcp
> kamanda 10081/udp
> amandaidx 10082/tcp
> admin:/home/amanda # grep amanda /etc/inetd.conf
># amanda backup server with indexing capabilities
># amandaidx stream  tcp nowait  root
> /usr/lib/amanda/amindexd amindexd
># amidxtape stream  tcp nowait  root
> /usr/lib/amanda/amidxtaped amidxtaped
># amanda backup client
># amandadgram   udp waitamanda  /usr/lib/amanda/amandad
> amandad
> amandadgram  udp wait   amanda /usr/local/libexec/amandad
> amandad
> amandaidx stream tcp nowait amanda /usr/local/libexec/amindexd
> amindexd
> amidxtape stream tcp nowait amanda /usr/local/libexec/amidxtaped
> amidxtaped
> admin:/home/amanda #
>
> Any additional suggestions?
>
> Thanks for continuing to think about this.
>
> -Kevin Zembower
>
> -
> E. Kevin Zembower
> Unix Administrator
> Johns Hopkins University/Center for Communications Programs
> 111 Market Place, Suite 310
> Baltimore, MD  21202
> 410-659-6139
>
 Ana Maria Escalante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/10/01 08:32PM

> Hi Kevin:
>  I am not sure if I understood everything from your message, but it
> is
> not clear to me, which user will be doing the backups from the server
> (amanda is the default user) and whether your client machine is the
> same
> as your server.
>  You must have a .amandahosts file in the client amanda home
> directory, that gives access to amanda user from the server machine.
>  In my setup, my backup admin acount is amanda, my server is
> server.domain.mx and my client is client.domain.mx. I have an
> .amandahosts
> file in amanda s home directory in the client with the following
> line:
>
> server.domain.mx  amanda
>
>  You will also need an .amandahosts file in the server s amanda
> s home
> directory, with the client machines name and root as the authorized
> user,
> in order to recover from the clients, but that is another story.
>  If you have a .rhosts file in your clients amanda s home
> directory,
> it must have this same line. I have heard about it :)
>  Hope this helps. Good luck ... Ana Maria
>
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, KEVIN ZEMBOWER wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to get my first setup of amanda working. Running amcheck
>> gives me:
>> admin:/home/amanda # su amanda -c "/usr/local/sbin/amcheck
> DailySet1"
>> Amanda Tape Server Host Check
>> -
>> Holding disk /var/amanda: 5807968 KB disk space available, that's
>> plenty
>> NOTE: skipping tape-writable test
>> Tape DailySet101 label ok
>> NOTE: info dir /var/log/amanda/DailySet1/curinfo/admin/sdb1: does
> not
>> exist
>> NOTE: info dir /var/log/amanda/DailySet1/curinfo/admin/sda1: does
> not
>> exist
>> NOTE: info dir /var/log/amanda/DailySet1/curinfo/admin/sda3: does
> not
>> exist
>> Server check took 16.516 seconds
>>
>> Amanda Backup Client Hosts Check
>> 
>> ERROR: admin: [access as amanda not allowed from
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] amandahostsauth failed
>> Client check: 1 host checked in 0.029 seconds, 1 problem found
>>
>> (brought to you by Amanda 2.4.3b1)
>> admin:/home/amanda #
>>
>> Yet, I have a .amandahosts file with what I think are the proper
>> contents and permissions:
>> admin:/home/amanda # ll /home/amanda/.amandahosts
>> -rw-r--r--1 amanda   disk   30 Dec 10 16:36
>> /home/amanda/.amandahosts
>> admin:/home/amanda # cat /home/amanda/.amandahosts
>> admin   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> admin:/home/amanda #
>>
>> I'm stumped. I've tried or checked all the suggestions in the
>> FAQ-a-matic for this topic. It's probably something simple, tha

amreport segfaults

2001-12-11 Thread Johannes Niess

Hi,

my amreport is segfaulting in a working configuration since I
mistakenly set dumpcycle to  days and setting it back to 4 after I
wondered about missing level 0's. I'm still in the first cycle after
the change. It's OK if this error will grow out after one cycle, but
will it happen?

At the moment my only way of getting status is via amoverview, which
wants to make me belive that no dumps took place between
approx. August and the change back. (Which is of course
wrong.). Amrecover shows indexes as it should and by looking at the
holding disks I see that amdump and amflush are doing their job.

Other Amanda configurations are working fine.I'm using Amanda 2.4.2.

TIA,

Johannes Nieß



SOLVED: Newbie: Can't get amanda user to work

2001-12-11 Thread KEVIN ZEMBOWER

Joshua WINS THE PRIZE!

The home directory in /etc/passwd for amanda was /var/lib/amanda. When
I changed it to /home/amanda, it worked great. For those of you
interested, here's the /home/amanda/.amandahosts file that's working
(with two additional hosts added and working):
admin:/home/amanda # cat .amandahosts
# admin:/home/amanda/.amandahosts created by Kevin Zembower on
11-Dec-2001
admin.jhuccp.orgamanda
virtual.jhuccp.org  amanda
centernet.jhuccp.orgamanda
admin:/home/amanda # 

It's still puzzling to me why the .amandahosts file, with the two
additional hosts, was being recognized in /home/amanda, but still giving
me the error with the tapeserver host. Oh, well, I'm not going to spend
too much time pondering it.

Another question: does this mean I can completely delete
/var/lib/amanda? The only thing in it currently is the .amandahost
file.

Thank you again, Joshua. If we're ever in the same city, I owe you a
beer.

-Kevin Zembower

>>> Joshua Baker-LePain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/11/01 12:00PM >>>
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 at 10:02am, KEVIN ZEMBOWER wrote

> Thank you to all the generous folks who have given me suggestions.
> Unfortunately, I still can't get it to work. I still get the same
error
> massage with "[access as amanda not allowed from
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]]".
> 
> Here's some clarification on my system. I'm trying to backup the
> tapeserver. My tape is on a machine called admin.jhuccp.org. The
userID
> for both client and server is "amanda", group is "disk".

I thought there was only one machine -- what do you mean "for both
client 
and server"?

> I've tried all these variations in the /home/amanda/.amandahosts and
> /var/lib/amanda/.amandahosts files (one at a time; the comments are
how
> I kept track of what I tried):
> admin:/home/amanda # cat .amandahosts 
> #admin.jhuccp.org   amanda.admin.jhuccp.org
> #admin  amanda.admin.jhuccp.org
> admin   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> #admin  amanda
> #admin.jhuccp.org   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> admin:/home/amanda # 

You still haven't hit the write one.  The format is 'machinename user'
So, /home/amanda/.amandahosts should include:

admin.jhuccp.orgamanda

Other questions -- are you sure that /home/amanda is the home directory
of 
the amanda user?  It's listed in /etc/passwd.

> As an aside, is it still necessary to have both
> /var/lib/amanda/.amandahosts and  /home/amanda/.amandahosts files?
Do
> they have to be the same?

AFAIK, it never was necessary.  The only .amandahosts you need resides
in 
~amanda.

> Any additional suggestions?

What OS/distro are you using -- that's helpful info.

-- 
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University




RE: Newbie: Can't get amanda user to work

2001-12-11 Thread Bort, Paul

Take a look in /tmp/amanda/amandad/debug. The config/defs section at the
beginning has a bunch of flags in it. Look for "BSD_SECURITY" and
"USE_AMANDAHOSTS". If you have the former and not the latter, everything
that's been said about .amandahosts really applies to .rhosts, and no amount
of fiddling with .amandahosts will make it work. 

This is based on my install of 2.4.2-19991216, and only took me two days to
track down. I think I'll go put something in FoM. 

> -Original Message-
> From: KEVIN ZEMBOWER [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:03 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Newbie: Can't get amanda user to work
> 
> 
> Thank you to all the generous folks who have given me suggestions.
> Unfortunately, I still can't get it to work. I still get the 
> same error
> massage with "[access as amanda not allowed from
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]]".
> 
> Here's some clarification on my system. I'm trying to backup the
> tapeserver. My tape is on a machine called admin.jhuccp.org. 
> The userID
> for both client and server is "amanda", group is "disk".
> 
> I've tried all these variations in the /home/amanda/.amandahosts and
> /var/lib/amanda/.amandahosts files (one at a time; the 
> comments are how
> I kept track of what I tried):
> admin:/home/amanda # cat .amandahosts 
> #admin.jhuccp.org   amanda.admin.jhuccp.org
> #admin  amanda.admin.jhuccp.org
> admin   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> #admin  amanda
> #admin.jhuccp.org   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> admin:/home/amanda # 
> 
> Both files are owned by amanda:disk and have 0600 permissions.
> 
> As an aside, is it still necessary to have both
> /var/lib/amanda/.amandahosts and  /home/amanda/.amandahosts files? Do
> they have to be the same?
> 
> My /etc/inetd.conf and /etc/services were patched by 'patch-system':
> admin:/home/amanda # grep amanda /etc/services
> amanda 10080/udp
> amanda 10080/tcp
> kamanda 10081/udp
> amandaidx 10082/tcp
> admin:/home/amanda # grep amanda /etc/inetd.conf
> # amanda backup server with indexing capabilities
> # amandaidx stream  tcp nowait  root   
> /usr/lib/amanda/amindexd amindexd
> # amidxtape stream  tcp nowait  root   
> /usr/lib/amanda/amidxtaped amidxtaped
> # amanda backup client
> # amandadgram   udp waitamanda  
> /usr/lib/amanda/amandad
> amandad
> amandadgram  udp wait   amanda /usr/local/libexec/amandad   
> amandad
> amandaidx stream tcp nowait amanda /usr/local/libexec/amindexd  
> amindexd
> amidxtape stream tcp nowait amanda /usr/local/libexec/amidxtaped
> amidxtaped
> admin:/home/amanda # 
> 
> Any additional suggestions?
> 
> Thanks for continuing to think about this.
> 
> -Kevin Zembower
> 
> -
> E. Kevin Zembower
> Unix Administrator
> Johns Hopkins University/Center for Communications Programs
> 111 Market Place, Suite 310
> Baltimore, MD  21202
> 410-659-6139
> 
> >>> Ana Maria Escalante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/10/01 08:32PM
> >>>
> Hi Kevin:
>  I am not sure if I understood everything from your 
> message, but it
> is
> not clear to me, which user will be doing the backups from the server
> (amanda is the default user) and whether your client machine is the
> same
> as your server.
>  You must have a .amandahosts file in the client amanda home
> directory, that gives access to amanda user from the server machine.
>  In my setup, my backup admin acount is amanda, my server is
> server.domain.mx and my client is client.domain.mx. I have an
> .amandahosts
> file in amanda s home directory in the client with the following
> line:
> 
> server.domain.mx  amanda
> 
>  You will also need an .amandahosts file in the server s amanda
> s home
> directory, with the client machines name and root as the authorized
> user,
> in order to recover from the clients, but that is another story.
>  If you have a .rhosts file in your clients amanda s home
> directory,
> it must have this same line. I have heard about it :)
>  Hope this helps. Good luck ... Ana Maria
> 
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, KEVIN ZEMBOWER wrote:
> 
> > I'm trying to get my first setup of amanda working. Running amcheck
> > gives me:
> > admin:/home/amanda # su amanda -c "/usr/local/sbin/amcheck
> DailySet1"
> > Amanda Tape Server Host Check
> > -
> > Holding disk /var/amanda: 5807968 KB disk space available, that's
> > plenty
> > NOTE: skipping tape-writable test
> > Tape DailySet101 label ok
> > NOTE: info dir /var/log/amanda/DailySet1/curinfo/admin/sdb1: does
> not
> > exist
> > NOTE: info dir /var/log/amanda/DailySet1/curinfo/admin/sda1: does
> not
> > exist
> > NOTE: info dir /var/log/amanda/DailySet1/curinfo/admin/sda3: does
> not
> > exist
> > Server check took 16.516 seconds
> > 
> > Amanda Backup Client Hosts Check
> > 
> > ERROR: admin: [access as amanda not allowed from
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]] amandahostsauth failed
> > Client check: 1 host checked in 0.029

Re: Newbie: Can't get amanda user to work

2001-12-11 Thread Christoph Scheeder

Hi,
your .amandahosts has to read

admin.jhuccp.orgamanda
admin.jhuccp.orgroot

no more, no less,
first line is for backup, 
second for restore

hope it helps
Christoph

KEVIN ZEMBOWER schrieb:
> 
> Thank you to all the generous folks who have given me suggestions.
> Unfortunately, I still can't get it to work. I still get the same error
> massage with "[access as amanda not allowed from
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]]".
> 
> Here's some clarification on my system. I'm trying to backup the
> tapeserver. My tape is on a machine called admin.jhuccp.org. The userID
> for both client and server is "amanda", group is "disk".
> 
> I've tried all these variations in the /home/amanda/.amandahosts and
> /var/lib/amanda/.amandahosts files (one at a time; the comments are how
> I kept track of what I tried):
> admin:/home/amanda # cat .amandahosts
> #admin.jhuccp.org   amanda.admin.jhuccp.org
> #admin  amanda.admin.jhuccp.org
> admin   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> #admin  amanda
> #admin.jhuccp.org   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> admin:/home/amanda #
> 
> Both files are owned by amanda:disk and have 0600 permissions.
> 
> As an aside, is it still necessary to have both
> /var/lib/amanda/.amandahosts and  /home/amanda/.amandahosts files? Do
> they have to be the same?
> 
> My /etc/inetd.conf and /etc/services were patched by 'patch-system':
> admin:/home/amanda # grep amanda /etc/services
> amanda 10080/udp
> amanda 10080/tcp
> kamanda 10081/udp
> amandaidx 10082/tcp
> admin:/home/amanda # grep amanda /etc/inetd.conf
> # amanda backup server with indexing capabilities
> # amandaidx stream  tcp nowait  root
> /usr/lib/amanda/amindexd amindexd
> # amidxtape stream  tcp nowait  root
> /usr/lib/amanda/amidxtaped amidxtaped
> # amanda backup client
> # amandadgram   udp waitamanda  /usr/lib/amanda/amandad
> amandad
> amandadgram  udp wait   amanda /usr/local/libexec/amandad
> amandad
> amandaidx stream tcp nowait amanda /usr/local/libexec/amindexd
> amindexd
> amidxtape stream tcp nowait amanda /usr/local/libexec/amidxtaped
> amidxtaped
> admin:/home/amanda #
> 
> Any additional suggestions?
> 
> Thanks for continuing to think about this.
> 
> -Kevin Zembower
> 
> -
> E. Kevin Zembower
> Unix Administrator
> Johns Hopkins University/Center for Communications Programs
> 111 Market Place, Suite 310
> Baltimore, MD  21202
> 410-659-6139
> 
> >>> Ana Maria Escalante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/10/01 08:32PM
> >>>
> Hi Kevin:
>  I am not sure if I understood everything from your message, but it
> is
> not clear to me, which user will be doing the backups from the server
> (amanda is the default user) and whether your client machine is the
> same
> as your server.
>  You must have a .amandahosts file in the client amanda home
> directory, that gives access to amanda user from the server machine.
>  In my setup, my backup admin acount is amanda, my server is
> server.domain.mx and my client is client.domain.mx. I have an
> .amandahosts
> file in amanda s home directory in the client with the following
> line:
> 
> server.domain.mxamanda
> 
>  You will also need an .amandahosts file in the server s amanda
> s home
> directory, with the client machines name and root as the authorized
> user,
> in order to recover from the clients, but that is another story.
>  If you have a .rhosts file in your clients amanda s home
> directory,
> it must have this same line. I have heard about it :)
>  Hope this helps. Good luck ... Ana Maria
> 
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, KEVIN ZEMBOWER wrote:
> 
> > I'm trying to get my first setup of amanda working. Running amcheck
> > gives me:
> > admin:/home/amanda # su amanda -c "/usr/local/sbin/amcheck
> DailySet1"
> > Amanda Tape Server Host Check
> > -
> > Holding disk /var/amanda: 5807968 KB disk space available, that's
> > plenty
> > NOTE: skipping tape-writable test
> > Tape DailySet101 label ok
> > NOTE: info dir /var/log/amanda/DailySet1/curinfo/admin/sdb1: does
> not
> > exist
> > NOTE: info dir /var/log/amanda/DailySet1/curinfo/admin/sda1: does
> not
> > exist
> > NOTE: info dir /var/log/amanda/DailySet1/curinfo/admin/sda3: does
> not
> > exist
> > Server check took 16.516 seconds
> >
> > Amanda Backup Client Hosts Check
> > 
> > ERROR: admin: [access as amanda not allowed from
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]] amandahostsauth failed
> > Client check: 1 host checked in 0.029 seconds, 1 problem found
> >
> > (brought to you by Amanda 2.4.3b1)
> > admin:/home/amanda #
> >
> > Yet, I have a .amandahosts file with what I think are the proper
> > contents and permissions:
> > admin:/home/amanda # ll /home/amanda/.amandahosts
> > -rw-r--r--1 amanda   disk   30 Dec 10 16:36
> > /home/amanda/.amandahosts
> > admin:/home/amanda # cat /home/amanda/.amandahosts
> > admin   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > admin:/home/amanda #
> >
> > I'm stumped. I've tried or che

RE: Newbie: Can't get amanda user to work

2001-12-11 Thread Anthony Valentine

Which machine(s) is your .amandahosts file on?  It is supposed to be on the
client machine (it can also be on the server machine if the server gets
backed up also).  

Make sure that you have an amandahosts file on each client, and that it is
in the amanda home directory.  Look at the /etc/passwd file to find amanda's
home directory.  (on my AIX boxes it is /home/amanda, on my Linux box it is
/var/lib/amanda).

My amandahosts files look like this:
SERVER:   My tapeserver is called sbs.sbs.com (it is also a client):
sbs.sbs.com amanda 

CLIENTS:   My client machines:
sbs.sbs.com amanda


I hope that this helps.

Anthony



-Original Message-
From: KEVIN ZEMBOWER [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 6:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Newbie: Can't get amanda user to work


Thank you to all the generous folks who have given me suggestions.
Unfortunately, I still can't get it to work. I still get the same error
massage with "[access as amanda not allowed from
[EMAIL PROTECTED]]".

Here's some clarification on my system. I'm trying to backup the
tapeserver. My tape is on a machine called admin.jhuccp.org. The userID
for both client and server is "amanda", group is "disk".

I've tried all these variations in the /home/amanda/.amandahosts and
/var/lib/amanda/.amandahosts files (one at a time; the comments are how
I kept track of what I tried):
admin:/home/amanda # cat .amandahosts 
#admin.jhuccp.org   amanda.admin.jhuccp.org
#admin  amanda.admin.jhuccp.org
admin   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#admin  amanda
#admin.jhuccp.org   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
admin:/home/amanda # 

Both files are owned by amanda:disk and have 0600 permissions.

As an aside, is it still necessary to have both
/var/lib/amanda/.amandahosts and  /home/amanda/.amandahosts files? Do
they have to be the same?

My /etc/inetd.conf and /etc/services were patched by 'patch-system':
admin:/home/amanda # grep amanda /etc/services
amanda 10080/udp
amanda 10080/tcp
kamanda 10081/udp
amandaidx 10082/tcp
admin:/home/amanda # grep amanda /etc/inetd.conf
# amanda backup server with indexing capabilities
# amandaidx stream  tcp nowait  root   
/usr/lib/amanda/amindexd amindexd
# amidxtape stream  tcp nowait  root   
/usr/lib/amanda/amidxtaped amidxtaped
# amanda backup client
# amandadgram   udp waitamanda  /usr/lib/amanda/amandad
amandad
amandadgram  udp wait   amanda /usr/local/libexec/amandad   
amandad
amandaidx stream tcp nowait amanda /usr/local/libexec/amindexd  
amindexd
amidxtape stream tcp nowait amanda /usr/local/libexec/amidxtaped
amidxtaped
admin:/home/amanda # 

Any additional suggestions?

Thanks for continuing to think about this.

-Kevin Zembower

-
E. Kevin Zembower
Unix Administrator
Johns Hopkins University/Center for Communications Programs
111 Market Place, Suite 310
Baltimore, MD  21202
410-659-6139

>>> Ana Maria Escalante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/10/01 08:32PM
>>>
Hi Kevin:
 I am not sure if I understood everything from your message, but it
is
not clear to me, which user will be doing the backups from the server
(amanda is the default user) and whether your client machine is the
same
as your server.
 You must have a .amandahosts file in the client amanda home
directory, that gives access to amanda user from the server machine.
 In my setup, my backup admin acount is amanda, my server is
server.domain.mx and my client is client.domain.mx. I have an
.amandahosts
file in amanda s home directory in the client with the following
line:

server.domain.mxamanda

 You will also need an .amandahosts file in the server s amanda
s home
directory, with the client machines name and root as the authorized
user,
in order to recover from the clients, but that is another story.
 If you have a .rhosts file in your clients amanda s home
directory,
it must have this same line. I have heard about it :)
 Hope this helps. Good luck ... Ana Maria

On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, KEVIN ZEMBOWER wrote:

> I'm trying to get my first setup of amanda working. Running amcheck
> gives me:
> admin:/home/amanda # su amanda -c "/usr/local/sbin/amcheck
DailySet1"
> Amanda Tape Server Host Check
> -
> Holding disk /var/amanda: 5807968 KB disk space available, that's
> plenty
> NOTE: skipping tape-writable test
> Tape DailySet101 label ok
> NOTE: info dir /var/log/amanda/DailySet1/curinfo/admin/sdb1: does
not
> exist
> NOTE: info dir /var/log/amanda/DailySet1/curinfo/admin/sda1: does
not
> exist
> NOTE: info dir /var/log/amanda/DailySet1/curinfo/admin/sda3: does
not
> exist
> Server check took 16.516 seconds
> 
> Amanda Backup Client Hosts Check
> 
> ERROR: admin: [access as amanda not allowed from
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] amandahostsauth failed
> Client check: 1 host checked in 0.029 seconds, 1 problem found
> 
> (brought to you by Amanda 2.4.3b1)
> admin:/home/amanda # 
> 
> Yet, I have

Re: Newbie: Can't get amanda user to work

2001-12-11 Thread Ana Maria Escalante

Hi Kevin:
 It seems to be a problem with the .amandahosts file. As amcheck
detects an error while verifying client access.

> 
> I've tried all these variations in the /home/amanda/.amandahosts and
> /var/lib/amanda/.amandahosts files (one at a time; the comments are how
> I kept track of what I tried):
> admin:/home/amanda # cat .amandahosts 
> #admin.jhuccp.org   amanda.admin.jhuccp.org
> #admin  amanda.admin.jhuccp.org
> admin   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> #admin  amanda
> #admin.jhuccp.org   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> admin:/home/amanda # 
>

 I would try with the fully qualified host name, and then just amanda
as follows:

admin.jhuccp.orgamanda


 
> Both files are owned by amanda:disk and have 0600 permissions.
> 
> As an aside, is it still necessary to have both
> /var/lib/amanda/.amandahosts and  /home/amanda/.amandahosts files? Do
> they have to be the same?
>

 The only one that you need is the one located at the amanda user´s
home directory.
 
> 
> Any additional suggestions?

 The only other one that I can think of is if you have a .rhosts file,
in which case you must add the same line you have in the .amandahosts
file.
 Can you verify if the .amandahosts file is accessed each time you run
amcheck? Did you configured and installed amanda yourself or was it
preinstalled in your system? This info may help also to find oout a
solution.
 Good luck to you ... Ana Maria
  





Ooops, what is happening here ?

2001-12-11 Thread Glen Eustace

I have just recently built a new backup server, CCG CY-10e jukebox, Exb-8505 
on a SPARC20 running RH6.2, amanda-2.4.2pl2

Backups seem to have been working fine, but I just went to restore a file and 
got the following.  The file is obviously in the index as amrecover found it 
and let me select it, the correct tape is in the drive, any clues ?

As an aside, how can I verify the content of a tape, i.e. run tar by hand on 
it ?

amrecover> extract
 
Extracting files using tape drive /dev/nst0 on host agree-10.
The following tapes are needed: GDZN01
 
Restoring files into directory /usr/local
Continue? [Y/n]: Y
 
Load tape GDZN01 now
Continue? [Y/n]: Y
tar: Skipping to next header
tar: ./godzone/database/Backup~: Not found in archive
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
extract_list - child returned non-zero status: 2
-- 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Glen and Rosanne Eustace,
GodZone Internet Services, a division of AGRE Enterprises Ltd.,
P.O. Box 8020, Palmerston North, New Zealand 5301
Ph/Fax: +64 6 357 8168, Mob: +64 21 424 015



2ndRequest_CreatingIndexFile_FromTape

2001-12-11 Thread ThomasRatliffDDS


Is there any FAQ that describes how to Create an Index file from tape?

thanks




Re: RSH "security"? How do I turn it on?

2001-12-11 Thread ian . willis

This should probably belong on the hackers list however
I have compiled the the 2.5 using the rsh security option. If you replace 
the path to the rsh with the ssh executable in the common-src/rshxxx.c 
it should work using ssh. the auth parameter in the amanda.conf file 
should be
auth"rsh" 
rather than the normal bsd or krb-4 parameters.
This being said, it builds and amcheck works fine on the my linux boxes at 
home using intel and alpha hardware, however I have built is on a sparc 
solaris backup server at work  and amcheck fails with a short read error.
I would really like to get this going because it is the only configuration 
that comes close to fitting into my operation environment involving many 
firewall and my chances of getting udp and connections initiated in both 
directions is buckley's






Adam Haberlach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
12/10/2001 05:00 AM

 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc: 
Subject:RSH "security"?  How do I turn it on?


 So I'm still trying to get amanda to work through my 
firewall, and
I've been looking through the latest /docs directory and the code.

 There seems to be a mechanism for BSD, Kerberos, and RSH 
Security,
as well as an API for them.  Here's my questions:

1. How do I specify which one to use?  Must I do this at compile time?
If so, this is unclear in the configure help.

2. Does the RSH method use TCP for transport, or will I still have
the UDP problems?

2b. Is anyone working on an ssh varient of the rsh transport, if it
actually does use TCP?

-- 
Adam Haberlach | Computer science has the unfortunate characteristic
[EMAIL PROTECTED]| that many of the pioneers of the field are still
   | alive and doing research.
   |-- Adam Rifkin






Newbie: Tape doesn't eject?

2001-12-11 Thread KEVIN ZEMBOWER

Just completed my first amanda backup successfully, mostly. However, I
got an error on three of my five hosts about "missing results". Looking
this up in the searchable archives led me to the
/tmp/amanda/sendsize.*.debug file, and this showed that I had a
directory named /etc/amandates, instead of a file. I removed the
directory, touched the file, then chmod and chown it to amanda:disk
0600. Should be fine, I think.

However, when my backup finished, the report noted that the tape was
only 10% full, and it didn't eject. Is this normal amanda behavior, to
not eject a tape until it's full? I want to run amdump over again right
away. Should I manually eject the tape (with mt) and insert a new one,
or just start amdump again with the same tape in the drive?

Thanks, again, for all your help.

-Kevin Zembower

-
E. Kevin Zembower
Unix Administrator
Johns Hopkins University/Center for Communications Programs
111 Market Place, Suite 310
Baltimore, MD  21202
410-659-6139



Re: [Amanda-users] amverify problems

2001-12-11 Thread Jason Thomas

this is not the case at all even with a single tape if it hits the end
of the tape. then that filesystem failed to dump to the tape. I think
there is something wrong with the planner myself. I've even specified
that my tapes are 1GB smaller and I still hit the end of the tape
sometimes.

On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 11:29:53AM -0600, Ben Jarvis wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just recently started using amverify to read back AMANDA dumps, and
> it's giving what seem to me to be inaccurate errors.  Basically it
> seems like it was written by someone using a single tape drive as
> it reports hitting EOT as an error.
> 
> When amanda writes multiple tapes per run, it will write up to EOT
> on the first tape, then restart the dump on the second tape.  The
> partial file on the first tape should not be considered an error.
> 
> Has anyone written an autoloader friendly amverify, or should I
> write one myself?

I just interpert the amverify report. which works for me for now!



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