Help with amrecover, cannot connect- connection refused

2003-08-27 Thread John Grover
Amanda list:

I'm doing my first test of amrecover (amdump ran fine) and I get an
error amrecover: cannot connect to tape server name here : connection
refused. I tried amrecover as root with all the command line options
set except tape device.

I have the .amandahosts file set on both the tape server and the client
machine, I've checked that the correct entries are in /etc/services and
/etc/inetd.conf on both machines and inetd has been restarted. I've read
the man pages and the FAQ-o-matic pages, no help.

This has got to be a simple newbie config error, can anyone point me in
the right direction?

Thanks!
JG



John W Grover, Systems and Database Administrator
  Lake Michigan College
www.lakemichigancollege.edu


Re: Help with amrecover, cannot connect- connection refused

2003-08-27 Thread Nicolas Ecarnot
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 à 04:55:33PM -0400, John Grover wrote:
 Amanda list:
 
 I'm doing my first test of amrecover (amdump ran fine) and I get an
 error amrecover: cannot connect to tape server name here : connection
 refused. I tried amrecover as root with all the command line options
 set except tape device.

I just had the same problem yesterday.
I solved it by :
- running amrecover as root
- adding this line
backupServer.mydomain.com root
to /home/operator/.amandahosts

HTH

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Re: Making a copy/image of the backed up data

2003-08-27 Thread Paul Bijnens
Simon Frettloeh wrote:

If I can read this properly, you suggest to make the copy of the image to 
the second tape drive. But we need both tape drives for backup reasons. 
The image should only be dumped to a file. But I think, there would be the 
possibility to mount a image file as device and tell dd to copy the data 
to that one :-) Problem could be the variable size of this image device. 
But thnx a lot for your idea!
If you want the images from tape simply dumped to a file,
than why don't you use amrestore? amrestore has options to
specify what kind of image you want (compressed/uncompressed,
with/without amanda header). See man page.
Encrypting it and putting it on another tape, can then be done
using gpg and dd.
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Paul Bijnens wrote:
or with encryption:

  while dd ibs=32k if=/dev/nst0 | encrypt | dd obs=32k of=/dev/nst1
  do :
  done
Had a misty day yesterday (misty in my head).
The idea is nice, but it is not as simple as above.
Now the while loop tests for successful writing to tape,
instead of reading from the source tape until EOT. A real life
script would be much more complicated... Just forget that one.
Maybe there is some elegant solution using RAIT (never used it;
never done it).
But I still believe there is more music in a combination
of RAIT with a tape and a file driver.
If I have some more time, I really should test these features out.
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Re: How do I improve performance in Amanda?

2003-08-27 Thread Ashwin Bijur



But we are using hardware compression. A majority of the filesystem, however,
is nfs mounted. Will that slow down the backups?

Kurt Yoder wrote:

  If you're using software/gzip compression, it slows it down belowthe bandwidth of a 100 Mbps network.Ashwin Bijur said:
  
Hello,I am using amanda 2.4.4 and the amanda host (running RedHat 9) has agigabit connection to the network. Yet it seems to utilize only afraction of the available bandwidth.  How do I force it to run at100%capacity?  Here are the statistics from my last backup and below youcansee my amanda.conf file.  Thanks in advance.








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Re: How do I improve performance in Amanda?

2003-08-27 Thread Kurt Yoder
Maybe. If you can, try backing up the filesystems directly instead
of via nfs and see if this makes a difference.

Ashwin Bijur said:
 But we are using hardware compression.  A majority of the
 filesystem,
 however, is nfs mounted.  Will that slow down the backups?

 Kurt Yoder wrote:

If you're using software/gzip compression, it slows it down below
the bandwidth of a 100 Mbps network.

Ashwin Bijur said:

Hello,

I am using amanda 2.4.4 and the amanda host (running RedHat 9) has
 a
gigabit connection to the network. Yet it seems to utilize only a
fraction of the available bandwidth.  How do I force it to run at
100%
capacity?  Here are the statistics from my last backup and below
 you
can
see my amanda.conf file.  Thanks in advance.







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Sport  Health network administrator



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Spam is getting old...

2003-08-27 Thread Byarlay, Wayne A.
Title: Message



What 
is the possibility we could change the address of this mailing list? I don't 
want to unsubscribe just yet... but it's getting pretty 
annoying.

wab


No amanda.conf file

2003-08-27 Thread Theresa Chen
I'm a newbie and I am trying to find a more cost effective solution to our
current bru...  I'm wondering if you can help me out: right now after the
installation, the following files were not created:
/usr/local/etc/amanda/
/usr/local/etc/amanda/amanda.conf
...

I've looked through the directions carefully, and reinstalled the software
several times, but still no avail.  Any reason?  I am running on an x86
RH9 distro.

Thanks in advance,
Theresa

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Re: Spam is getting old...

2003-08-27 Thread Chris Barnes
Byarlay, Wayne A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What is the possibility we could change the address of this mailing
 list? I don't want to unsubscribe just yet... but it's getting pretty
 annoying.

Changing an email address is a horrid way of dealing with spam.  Either
personally or for a list.  *IF* it's a problem, running the email
through a filter (my favorite is SpamAssassin) before it gets
distributed is a MUCH better way to go.


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Re: Spam is getting old...

2003-08-27 Thread Mitch Collinsworth

On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Chris Barnes wrote:

 Changing an email address is a horrid way of dealing with spam.  Either
 personally or for a list.  *IF* it's a problem, running the email
 through a filter (my favorite is SpamAssassin) before it gets
 distributed is a MUCH better way to go.

SpamAssassin has blocked all spam/virus mail arriving through this
list for me since I started using it.  (It hasn't done as well for
non-list spam however.)  So now I don't see the spam/virus, I just
see the handful of 'you sent me a spam/virus' replies that follow
each one and are sent erroneously to the list.

If I were list manager I would either unzubscribe or block posting
from sites generating these replies.

-Mitch


RE: maybe this is a dumb question

2003-08-27 Thread Jeremy L. Mordkoff
My policy is to never restore files in place. I always restore to a
temporary location and ask the owner to copy the file into place. That
avoids any stickiness. I remember a case where someone asked to have a
file restored, but it was only to do a diff. The restore was done in
place, so afterwards they had the old file, but the new file was gone,
which was not an improvement. So this policy protects against stupidity
and malice.


JLM


Jeremy Mordkoff
Tatara Systems
978-206-0808 (direct)
978-206-0888 (fax)
 
injustice anywhere threatens justice everywhere -- Dr. Martin Luther
King

-Original Message-
From: Jay Lessert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 1:15 PM
To: Chris Barnes
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: maybe this is a dumb question

On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 10:34:49AM -0500, Chris Barnes wrote:
 The concern is that when a restore is run, the softlink to the
/usr/bin
 directory will be recreated, then the file will be restored into that
 directory, overwriting the file that is supposed to be there (ie.
 creating a security issue).
 
 1) Is this possible, or does Amanda already do something to prevent
 this?

Chris,

Give your student worker a cookie (or a beer if they're old enough).
Though this isn't a new exploit technique, it sure looks to me like if
one:

- Uses 'program DUMP'
- Uses amrecover

Then your proposed exploit would work.  extract_files_child()
in extract_list.c just calls 'restore x', and I just tested that
ufsrestore (Solaris) will behave exactly as you describe.

If instead you run:

amrestore | ufsrestore r

you're safe, though this is not so convenient for partial
restores.  :-)

I did not test from inside amrecover; if there is deep magic there
I am missing, I'd like to hear about it.  From an Amanda point of
view, this is an issue with 'program', not with Amanda, of course.

I did not test 'tar -xpG' (that's how amrecover calls GNU tar).

 2) If it is possbile, are there any security considerations we need to
 take into consideration when running backups or restore jobs?

Yes.  :-)

I'm *really* glad I don't admin a student or ISP environment!
If I did, I would tripwire everything, I guess.

- 
Jay Lessert   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accelerant Networks Inc.   (voice)1.503.439.3461
Beaverton OR, USA(fax)1.503.466.9472



Re: Spam is getting old...

2003-08-27 Thread Kurt Yoder

Mitch Collinsworth said:
 SpamAssassin has blocked all spam/virus mail arriving through this
 list for me since I started using it.  (It hasn't done as well for
 non-list spam however.)  So now I don't see the spam/virus, I just
 see the handful of 'you sent me a spam/virus' replies that follow
 each one and are sent erroneously to the list.

 If I were list manager I would either unzubscribe or block posting
 from sites generating these replies.

So who *is* the list manager who would be in charge of doing this
anyway?

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Sport  Health network administrator



Re: maybe this is a dumb question

2003-08-27 Thread Chris Barnes
Jay Lessert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 01:33:01PM -0400, Jeremy L. Mordkoff wrote:
 My policy is to never restore files in place.

 I agree that is a good practice (doesn't prevent Chris' student's
 proposed exploit, though).

Actually, I think it might.  If we restore to a temporary location, then
the /etc/passwd (from my previous example) won't be overwritten.  The
malicious user couldn't move it manually (since they wouldn't have write
permissions through the softlink).


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Re: Multiple backups on one tape.

2003-08-27 Thread Matt Hyclak
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 01:15:54PM -0500, David Barcelo enlightened us:
 hello all,
  I have read the Amanda site and seen the faqo-o-matic about amanda not 
 being able to have multiple backups on one tape.  Even though I have 
 read this I am still curious.  Is is it still possible to just use one 
 tape during a 1 week dumpcycle and 5 runspercycle policy?  Can I get 
 Amanda to append backups?
 

The only way to do this is to let the backups build up on the holding disk
and then flush them all at once. This is what I do here since I have 100GB
native tapes and not nearly that much data being backed up (yet...). Amanda
will not append to tapes, as there is no guarantee the tape is in the right
position, and overwriting your backups is not a good thing.

Matt

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Re: Multiple backups on one tape.

2003-08-27 Thread Brian Cuttler

Humm, that is a question.

If you had enough spool area AND didn't mind leaving all of your backups
on disk (risky but no worse than using a tape drive as the output device)
you _could_ fail to mount the tape and run amflush once/week.

Couldn't you ?

Still, I don't see having a single output tape, you'd have little or
no fallback if something happened, spool disk failure, tape failure,
drive problems...

Dave - not a config I'd recommend.

 hello all,
   I have read the Amanda site and seen the faqo-o-matic about amanda not 
 being able to have multiple backups on one tape.  Even though I have 
 read this I am still curious.  Is is it still possible to just use one 
 tape during a 1 week dumpcycle and 5 runspercycle policy?  Can I get 
 Amanda to append backups?
 
 Dave
 



Re: Multiple backups on one tape.

2003-08-27 Thread David Barcelo




Thanks for the reply.  We are using very expensive tapes and the thing I
had in mind was recycling my tapes every 4 weeks. Thus I would need 2 tapes
per week. 1 for incrementals (Mon-Thurs) and 1 for full backups (Fri). A
grand total of 8 tapes plus one for good measure. We are spending about
40 ducets a tape. Very pricey. I agree that it isn't the most sound configuration
but if I can make it work I am willing to try.

If I use amflush will I still be able to index incrementaly backuped files
on the tape. In other words, off the top of your head (or anyone elses)
what amanda utilities will become unusable and/or ineffective do to this
unusual configuration?

TIA
Dave

Brian Cuttler wrote:

  Humm, that is a question.

If you had enough spool area AND didn't mind leaving all of your backups
on disk (risky but no worse than using a tape drive as the output device)
you _could_ fail to mount the tape and run amflush once/week.

Couldn't you ?

Still, I don't see having a single output tape, you'd have little or
no fallback if something happened, spool disk failure, tape failure,
drive problems...

Dave - not a config I'd recommend.

  
  
hello all,
  I have read the Amanda site and seen the faqo-o-matic about amanda not 
being able to have multiple backups on one tape.  Even though I have 
read this I am still curious.  Is is it still possible to just use one 
tape during a 1 week dumpcycle and 5 runspercycle policy?  Can I get 
Amanda to append backups?

Dave


  
  


  








Re: Multiple backups on one tape.

2003-08-27 Thread Brian Cuttler

Dave,

I was afraid you where saying one tape total.

Yes, your config should work. Did you figure out how you'll
schedule the fulls for friday ? amadmin force from cron ?

Dumps will remain distinguishable from one another, the files on
tape are node_disk_date.level

athena_usr1_20030812.2
 - Level 2 dump on 12 August this year for Athena:/usr2

or something really really close to that format. Humm, maybe its
dots and not underscores, slashes are replaced by underscore I
think so root partition may be athena._.20030812.2


 Thanks for the reply.   We are using very expensive tapes and the thing 
 I had in mind was recycling my tapes every 4 weeks.  Thus I would need 2 
 tapes per week.  1 for incrementals (Mon-Thurs) and 1 for full backups 
 (Fri).  A grand total of 8 tapes plus one for good measure.  We are 
 spending about 40 ducets a tape.  Very pricey.  I agree that it isn't 
 the most sound configuration but if I can make it work I am willing to try.
 
 If I use amflush will I still be able to index incrementaly backuped 
 files on the tape.  In other words, off the top of your head (or anyone 
 elses) what amanda utilities will become unusable and/or ineffective do 
 to this unusual configuration?
 
 TIA
 Dave
 
 Brian Cuttler wrote:
 
 Humm, that is a question.
 
 If you had enough spool area AND didn't mind leaving all of your backups
 on disk (risky but no worse than using a tape drive as the output device)
 you _could_ fail to mount the tape and run amflush once/week.
 
 Couldn't you ?
 
 Still, I don't see having a single output tape, you'd have little or
 no fallback if something happened, spool disk failure, tape failure,
 drive problems...
 
 Dave - not a config I'd recommend.
 
   
 
 hello all,
   I have read the Amanda site and seen the faqo-o-matic about amanda not 
 being able to have multiple backups on one tape.  Even though I have 
 read this I am still curious.  Is is it still possible to just use one 
 tape during a 1 week dumpcycle and 5 runspercycle policy?  Can I get 
 Amanda to append backups?
 
 Dave
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 



Re: Spam is getting old...

2003-08-27 Thread Mitch Collinsworth

On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Kurt Yoder wrote:

 Mitch Collinsworth said:
  If I were list manager I would either unzubscribe or block posting
  from sites generating these replies.

 So who *is* the list manager who would be in charge of doing this
 anyway?

I believe it's Todd Kover.  Also note that I said If I were list
manager.  I'm not, Todd is.  So it's his decision what to implement
and what not.  Not mine or anyone else's.

-Mitch


chg-manual and changerfile contents

2003-08-27 Thread S. Keel
Hi everyone,

I'm having trouble with chg-manual, specifically the changerfile contents.
I can't seem to find any documentation that discusses what should be in
the following files...

/usr/adm/amanda/daily/changer-clean
/usr/adm/amanda/daily/changer-access
/usr/adm/amanda/daily/changer-slot

...which are currently empty files, so I keep getting the following
error...

amcheck-server: could not get changer info: badly formed result from
changer: 99 1

Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks,
Stefan



Re: maybe this is a dumb question

2003-08-27 Thread Jay Lessert
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 12:54:12PM -0500, Chris Barnes wrote:
 Jay Lessert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 01:33:01PM -0400, Jeremy L. Mordkoff wrote:
  My policy is to never restore files in place.
 
  I agree that is a good practice (doesn't prevent Chris' student's
  proposed exploit, though).
 
 Actually, I think it might.

Chris,

I don't remember your exact example, but not in all cases (unless I'm
missing something obvious...):

#!/bin/sh
cd /home/joebob/src
ln -s /bin
sleep 86400
rm bin
mkdir bin
cp -p /home/joebob/bin/my_ls bin/ls
sleep 86400
rm -r *

mail -s restore request [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'EOMESSAGE'
Dear helpful admin,

I accidentally did an 'rm -r *' on my src directory this morning:

/home/joebob/src

Could you please restore it?  Thanks!

-Joebob-
EOMESSAGE

That does it, right?  Doesn't matter what file system or what host the
the amrecover is run on, I've got /bin/ls on that box when it's done
(subject to my qualifiers re: OS and program earlier in the thread).

-- 
Jay Lessert   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accelerant Networks Inc.   (voice)1.503.439.3461
Beaverton OR, USA(fax)1.503.466.9472


[amanda-users]Some questions about disk-backups

2003-08-27 Thread Vlad Popa
Hi !

Has someone a idea of backing up  on USB Disks on Linux or *BSD or 
other Unix with the same automation you have for tapes ?
(i.e. for a very small company you have a small ammount of  cheap usb 
disks you'd change every day - would there be any kind of labeling 
possible as on  tapes-I heared those would be safer than any affordable 
tapes)

Greetings from Austria

Vlad


Re: No amanda.conf file

2003-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Hi, Theresa Chen,

on Mittwoch, 27. August 2003 at 18:06 you wrote to amanda-users:

TC I'm a newbie and I am trying to find a more cost effective solution to our
TC current bru...  I'm wondering if you can help me out: right now after the
TC installation, the following files were not created:
TC /usr/local/etc/amanda/
TC /usr/local/etc/amanda/amanda.conf
TC ...

TC I've looked through the directions carefully, and reinstalled the software
TC several times, but still no avail.  Any reason?  I am running on an x86
TC RH9 distro.

Create the directory by yourself and copy the file amanda.conf.in to
the file /usr/local/etc/amanda/amanda.conf .

amanda.conf.in is found in the example-branch of the unpacked
Amanda-tarball. Read the INSTALL file and edit amanda.conf according
to your configuration (hardware, tapes, ...)

-- 
best regards,
Stefan

Stefan G. Weichinger
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: maybe this is a dumb question

2003-08-27 Thread Chris Barnes
Jay Lessert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That does it, right?  Doesn't matter what file system or what host the
 the amrecover is run on, I've got /bin/ls on that box when it's done
 (subject to my qualifiers re: OS and program earlier in the thread).

Not if I restore each incremental into a different temp directory
  /home/joebob/restore1/src  (the softlink)
  /home/joebob/restore2/src (the directory containing ls)

It is then up to the user to move the src (either the softlink or the
directory back into their home.  And if they try to move the softlink,
then move the file into it, well, they don't have the proper permissions
to accomplish what they want.


or am I missing something?

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