Re: DDS-3 tapetype ???

2005-06-16 Thread Frank Smith
--On Thursday, June 16, 2005 23:59:28 -0500 Michael D Schleif <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Earlier this year, my HP DAT tape drive had problems, and I replaced it
> with a Compaq/Sony SDT-9000.  Mostly, I am still using the same DDS-3
> tapes that I was using, and retired some and added some.  My old records
> show that I was getting nearly the full 12GB uncompressed tape length.
> 
> Since the tape drive change, I have wondered why I didn't seem to be
> getting all the data on some tapes.  Clearly, with Amanda, some days it
> just doesn't want to send a full 12GB to tape; but, mostly, I have been
> seeing <9GB going to tape, and balance sitting in holdingdisk.
> 
> Today, I did this:
> 
> # time sudo -u backup amtapetype -e 12g -f /dev/nst0 -o
> Writing 32 Mbyte   compresseable data:  37 sec
> Writing 32 Mbyte uncompresseable data:  35 sec
> Estimated time to write 2 * 12288 Mbyte: 26880 sec = 7 h 28 min
> wrote 298832 32Kb blocks in 76 files in 10632 seconds (short write)
> wrote 310628 32Kb blocks in 158 files in 10840 seconds (short write)
> define tapetype unknown-tapetype {
> comment "just produced by tapetype prog (hardware compression
> off)"
> length 9522 mbytes
> filemark 0 kbytes
> speed 908 kps
> }
> 
> real364m39.451s
> user0m2.724s
> sys 0m28.719s
> 
> 
> What is going on here?
> 
> How can I get a full 12GB tape length?
> 
> What do you think?

Are you positive hardware compression is off?  You might want to look into
Gene's frequent postings about disabling compression when tapes have 
previously been written compressed.
Are you actually hitting EOT on your backups, or is it just the result
of your tapetype setting the length to 9.5GB?  If you're not already
hitting EOT, try changing the length in your tapetype to 12GB and see
if more is written.

Frank

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Re: Strange dump details

2005-06-16 Thread Frank Smith
--On Thursday, June 16, 2005 20:13:41 -0400 Jon LaBadie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
> Backup programs like dump, tar, smbclient generate lots of
> messages that are informational fluff.  Amanda has hard coded
> lists of things to "not worry about".  Others amanda knows
> to print error reports about.
> 
> When one of the programs changes its fluff, sometimes even
> simple spacing changes, amanda may recognize the message as
> one to report as an error or ignore.  These get reported as
> "strange".
> 
> Some future version of amanda will have adjusted for the
> samba changes.
> 

Are there any plans to allow additional ignore patterns to be
specified in the amanda.conf file so that they could be filtered
out on the server side so as not to be reported as strange?
Editing source code and recompiling seems like overkill.

Frank


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DDS-3 tapetype ???

2005-06-16 Thread Michael D Schleif
Earlier this year, my HP DAT tape drive had problems, and I replaced it
with a Compaq/Sony SDT-9000.  Mostly, I am still using the same DDS-3
tapes that I was using, and retired some and added some.  My old records
show that I was getting nearly the full 12GB uncompressed tape length.

Since the tape drive change, I have wondered why I didn't seem to be
getting all the data on some tapes.  Clearly, with Amanda, some days it
just doesn't want to send a full 12GB to tape; but, mostly, I have been
seeing <9GB going to tape, and balance sitting in holdingdisk.

Today, I did this:

# time sudo -u backup amtapetype -e 12g -f /dev/nst0 -o
Writing 32 Mbyte   compresseable data:  37 sec
Writing 32 Mbyte uncompresseable data:  35 sec
Estimated time to write 2 * 12288 Mbyte: 26880 sec = 7 h 28 min
wrote 298832 32Kb blocks in 76 files in 10632 seconds (short write)
wrote 310628 32Kb blocks in 158 files in 10840 seconds (short write)
define tapetype unknown-tapetype {
comment "just produced by tapetype prog (hardware compression off)"
length 9522 mbytes
filemark 0 kbytes
speed 908 kps
}

real364m39.451s
user0m2.724s
sys 0m28.719s


What is going on here?

How can I get a full 12GB tape length?

What do you think?

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Re: [dump larger than tape, 2866960 KB, but cannot incremental dump new disk]

2005-06-16 Thread Toomas Aas

Chuck Amadi Systems Administrator wrote:


#disklist file
#server.domain.co.uk / comp-root-tar #Thought I was using tar.

and I get the above error.

Whats the best to tackle this still using DSS-4 150mm DAT tapes.
and how to cannot incremental dump new disk as above error.

Thus can I change from dump to tar


I think you already are using tar, if you haven't modified the 
comp-root-tar dumptype yourself. Amanda still refers to the process of 
backing up and resulting image as 'dump', she won't say 'tar larger than 
tape' when you're using tar :-)


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Re: Strange dump details

2005-06-16 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 11:26:53PM +0200, Nicklas Bondesson wrote:
> I'm using amanda 2.4.5 to backup some Windows shares using amanda and
> smbclient.
> 
> Everything went just fine until I upgraded Debian to the lastest stable
> (3.1). This upgrade went from Samba 2.2.3a to 3.0.14a.
> 
> I now get this type of message on all of my Windows shares that I back up
> from amanda.
> 
> FAILED AND STRANGE DUMP DETAILS:
> 
> /-- ibiza  //host/chare lev 0 STRANGE
> sendbackup: start [bakupserver://host/share level 0]
> sendbackup: info BACKUP=/usr/bin/smbclient
> sendbackup: info RECOVER_CMD=/usr/bin/smbclient -f... -
> sendbackup: info end
> ? Domain=[DOMAIN] OS=[Windows 5.1] Server=[Windows 2000 LAN Manager]
> | tar: dumped 16 files and directories
> | Total bytes written: 3689984
> sendbackup: size 3604
> sendbackup: end
> \

Backup programs like dump, tar, smbclient generate lots of
messages that are informational fluff.  Amanda has hard coded
lists of things to "not worry about".  Others amanda knows
to print error reports about.

When one of the programs changes its fluff, sometimes even
simple spacing changes, amanda may recognize the message as
one to report as an error or ignore.  These get reported as
"strange".

Some future version of amanda will have adjusted for the
samba changes.

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Re: Strange dump details

2005-06-16 Thread sgw

Hello, Nicklas,

on 16.06.2005, 23:26 you wrote to amanda-users@amanda.org:

> ? Domain=[DOMAIN] OS=[Windows 5.1] Server=[Windows 2000 LAN Manager]

> Any ideas?

Ignore it (it's not a problem) or browse the archives of this list for
a patch that has been recently posted.

Best regards,
Stefan G. Weichinger.

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Re: Backup to Hard Drive

2005-06-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 16 June 2005 17:50, Mike Delaney wrote:
>On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 02:24:02PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> On Thursday 16 June 2005 10:52, Cody Holland wrote:
>> >I'm a newb to Amanda, and would like to backup everything to a
>> > server running Raid0.  I'm sure this is very possible, I just
>> > cannot find any docs on it.  Any help would be greatly
>> > appreciated.
>>
>> However, under recovery situations where you may be doing a bare
>> metal rebuild, I'd be a bit spooked of a raid as there is a
>> possibility under those total disaster conditions, that the raid
>> may not be available without a lot of pre-configuring of the md
>> driver.
>
>I'd be more worried about using a RAID-0 device to store my backups:
>loose any one disk and the volume is toast, and each disk in the
> stripe increases the likelyhood of a failure.  Compared to that,
> having to configure a software RAID driver to access a pre-existing
> volume when rebuilding the OS on the server is a mere annoyance.

Humm, I didn't notice the raid0 above.  Yup, thats a disaster looking 
for a place to happen, so I'll second the antiraid(0 at least) 
sentiments.  Definitely a bad dog, no bisquit scenario.

As it is, if I lose that $120 commodity drive, I've lost my /var 
partition and all my backups.  But a 2 hour drive to Circuit City for 
another (probably even bigger than 200GB), 20 minutes to install it, 
10 minutes to fdisk it & mke3fs it, a run of my script to re-create 
the amandatapes partitions contents, and I'm back in business after a 
4 day dumpcycle to get fulls of everything again.  I could even 
reassign /var to another smaller unused partition on hda temporarily 
and continue while I'm driving that 70 mile round trip to get the 
other drives replacement.

I'd moved /var to a seperate spindle because I once had a write error 
that made the whole disk read-only (bleeding edge kernel early in the 
2.6 series).  The error couldn't be logged, so it was a chicken and 
egg situation.  Moving /var is hopefully insurance against a repeat 
of that scenario.

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Re: Backup to Hard Drive

2005-06-16 Thread Mike Delaney
On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 02:24:02PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 16 June 2005 10:52, Cody Holland wrote:
> >I'm a newb to Amanda, and would like to backup everything to a
> > server running Raid0.  I'm sure this is very possible, I just
> > cannot find any docs on it.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> However, under recovery situations where you may be doing a bare metal 
> rebuild, I'd be a bit spooked of a raid as there is a possibility 
> under those total disaster conditions, that the raid may not be 
> available without a lot of pre-configuring of the md driver.

I'd be more worried about using a RAID-0 device to store my backups:
loose any one disk and the volume is toast, and each disk in the stripe
increases the likelyhood of a failure.  Compared to that, having to configure
a software RAID driver to access a pre-existing volume when rebuilding the
OS on the server is a mere annoyance.



RE: dumper5 pid 10813 is messed up, ignoring it

2005-06-16 Thread Rebecca Pakish Crum
> Hello, Rebecca,
> 
> on 16.06.2005, 19:47 you wrote to amanda-users@amanda.org:
> 
> > Here's what I have: A server running amanda-2.4.4p4 running on RHE3 
> > intel, and has been for a couple of years. A client running 
> > amanda-2.4.4p1 on Sol9, sparc.
> 
> > Any suggestions?
> 
> Is there any reasonable chance of getting some more recent 
> version of AMANDA running on that client?
> 
> 2.4.4p1 is pretty old now, there have been loads of changes 
> and fixes since then ...
> 
> Rolling your new and shiny AMANDA-client shouldn't take you 
> longer than debugging the old one with gdb ...
> 
> Best regards,
> Stefan G. Weichinger.


Yeah, I thought about that, but if that were the problem, wouldn't it be
happening on my other 2.4.4p1 clients? I'm looking for a little bit more
information on what the problem could possibly be. What causes the
dumper to tank all of a sudden? If there's something else failing on
this box, I'd kind of like to know.



Strange dump details

2005-06-16 Thread Nicklas Bondesson
I'm using amanda 2.4.5 to backup some Windows shares using amanda and
smbclient.

Everything went just fine until I upgraded Debian to the lastest stable
(3.1). This upgrade went from Samba 2.2.3a to 3.0.14a.

I now get this type of message on all of my Windows shares that I back up
from amanda.

FAILED AND STRANGE DUMP DETAILS:

/-- ibiza  //host/chare lev 0 STRANGE
sendbackup: start [bakupserver://host/share level 0]
sendbackup: info BACKUP=/usr/bin/smbclient
sendbackup: info RECOVER_CMD=/usr/bin/smbclient -f... -
sendbackup: info end
? Domain=[DOMAIN] OS=[Windows 5.1] Server=[Windows 2000 LAN Manager]
| tar: dumped 16 files and directories
| Total bytes written: 3689984
sendbackup: size 3604
sendbackup: end
\

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Nicklas




[no subject]

2005-06-16 Thread Nicklas Bondesson
I'm using amanda 2.4.5 to backup some Windows shares using amanda and
smbclient.

Everything went just fine until I upgraded Debian to the lastest stable
(3.1). This upgrade went from Samba 2.2.3a to 3.0.14a.

I now get this type of message on all of my Windows shares that I back up
from amanda.

FAILED AND STRANGE DUMP DETAILS:

/-- ibiza  //host/chare lev 0 STRANGE
sendbackup: start [bakupserver://host/share level 0]
sendbackup: info BACKUP=/usr/bin/smbclient
sendbackup: info RECOVER_CMD=/usr/bin/smbclient -f... -
sendbackup: info end
? Domain=[DOMAIN] OS=[Windows 5.1] Server=[Windows 2000 LAN Manager]
| tar: dumped 16 files and directories
| Total bytes written: 3689984
sendbackup: size 3604
sendbackup: end
\

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Nicklas




Re: dumper5 pid 10813 is messed up, ignoring it

2005-06-16 Thread sgw

Hello, Rebecca,

on 16.06.2005, 19:47 you wrote to amanda-users@amanda.org:

> Here's what I have: A server running amanda-2.4.4p4 running on RHE3
> intel, and has been for a couple of years. A client running
> amanda-2.4.4p1 on Sol9, sparc.

> Any suggestions?

Is there any reasonable chance of getting some more recent version of
AMANDA running on that client?

2.4.4p1 is pretty old now, there have been loads of changes and fixes
since then ...

Rolling your new and shiny AMANDA-client shouldn't take you longer
than debugging the old one with gdb ...

Best regards,
Stefan G. Weichinger.

mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED]







Re[2]: Backup to Hard Drive

2005-06-16 Thread sgw

Hello, Rebecca,

on 16.06.2005, 21:22 you wrote to amanda-users@amanda.org:

> Try looking in the amanda FAQ-omatic, here:
> http://amanda.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/fom?_recurse=1&file=25#file_191

> This is the configuration I used and it works like a champ. ;-)

And something more up-to-date:

http://www.amanda.org/docs/howto-filedriver.html

(I know this is hard to find as it is "hidden" right in the middle of
the AMANDA-docs ;-) )

Best regards,
Stefan G. Weichinger.

mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED]







RE: Backup to Hard Drive

2005-06-16 Thread Rebecca Pakish Crum
> On Thursday 16 June 2005 10:52, Cody Holland wrote:
> >I'm a newb to Amanda, and would like to backup everything to 
> a  server 
> >running Raid0.  I'm sure this is very possible, I just  
> cannot find any 
> >docs on it.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Cody

Try looking in the amanda FAQ-omatic, here:
http://amanda.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/fom?_recurse=1&file=25#file_191

This is the configuration I used and it works like a champ. ;-)



Re: Backup to Hard Drive

2005-06-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 16 June 2005 10:52, Cody Holland wrote:
>I'm a newb to Amanda, and would like to backup everything to a
> server running Raid0.  I'm sure this is very possible, I just
> cannot find any docs on it.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>Cody

See the FILE: tapetype in the docs

When its all setup, your directory will have a subdir for each of the 
'virtual tapes' you've configured it for, and a link to the currently 
active directory called 'data'.  Works pretty slick, I've been doing 
it for about a year now to a 180GB partition on a single 200GB 
commodity grade disk.  If the raid looks normal to an 'ls' listing, 
then amanda won't know, or care that its a raid.

However, under recovery situations where you may be doing a bare metal 
rebuild, I'd be a bit spooked of a raid as there is a possibility 
under those total disaster conditions, that the raid may not be 
available without a lot of pre-configuring of the md 
driver.  /dev/hdd3 will always be available for the mounting of it 
someplace suitable in a rescue situation.  However, thats just me 
being ny usual paranoid :-)

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dumper5 pid 10813 is messed up, ignoring it

2005-06-16 Thread Rebecca Pakish Crum
Title: dumper5 pid 10813 is messed up, ignoring it






Hi all -


I've searched the archives and did a google search on the above error, and I found an old sourceforge archive from JJ that offered some suggestions, but I still can't get a handle on what's going on.

Here's what I have: A server running amanda-2.4.4p4 running on RHE3 intel, and has been for a couple of years. A client running amanda-2.4.4p1 on Sol9, sparc.

Here's what's happening: I've isolated the problem to this client because it's the only one where all of the results are missing, well almost all. I changed my disklist to include only this client since all others are backing up just fine. Basically the job just hangs and hangs and hangs, so I come in and manually kill dumper0-dumper5 and then the taper pid's go away, too…then I finally get the email from amanda:

*** THE DUMPS DID NOT FINISH PROPERLY!


Ignore this - I didn't have a tape in the drive at the time I was trying this test…same with taper stats below*** A TAPE ERROR OCCURRED: [rewinding tape: Input/output error]. Some dumps may have been left in the holding disk. Run amflush to flush them to tape. The next tape Amanda expects to use is: uadaily02. 

FAILURE AND STRANGE DUMP SUMMARY:

  smores.unt /usr RESULTS MISSING

  smores.unt /opt RESULTS MISSING

  smores.unt /export/home RESULTS MISSING

  smores.unt /var RESULTS MISSING



STATISTICS:

  Total   Full  Daily

          

Estimate Time (hrs:min)    0:01

Run Time (hrs:min) 0:01

Dump Time (hrs:min)    0:01   0:01   0:00

Output Size (meg)   2.3    2.3    0.0

Original Size (meg) 2.3    2.3    0.0

Avg Compressed Size (%) -- -- -- 

Filesystems Dumped    1  1  0

Avg Dump Rate (k/s)    45.0   45.0    -- 


Tape Time (hrs:min)    0:00   0:00   0:00

Tape Size (meg) 0.0    0.0    0.0

Tape Used (%)   0.0    0.0    0.0

Filesystems Taped 0  0  0

Avg Tp Write Rate (k/s) -- -- -- 



NOTES:

  driver: dumper5 pid 10813 is messed up, ignoring it.

  driver: dumper0 pid 10808 is messed up, ignoring it.

  driver: dumper0 died while dumping smores.unterlaw.com:/export/home lev 0.



DUMP SUMMARY:

  DUMPER STATS    TAPER STATS  

HOSTNAME DISK  L   ORIG-KB   OUT-KB COMP% MMM:SS    KB/s MMM:SS    KB/s

 --- --

smores.u /etc  0  2360 2360   --    0:52    45.0   N/A N/A 

smores.u /export/home    MISSING --

smores.u /opt    MISSING --

smores.u /usr    MISSING --

smores.u /var    MISSING --


(brought to you by Amanda version 2.4.4p4)


According the email a couple of years ago from JJ, I tried to run the amdump on just this client, while running gdb in another window on the dumper pid. I've never used gdb before, but basically it just gave me a bunch of library connection stuff and then sat there after I typed "cont" at the  prompt.

Any suggestions?






Re: dump larger than tape, 2862305 KB, but cannot incremental dump new disk

2005-06-16 Thread Paul Bijnens


Chuck Amadi Systems Administrator wrote:

I got the culprit

define tapetype HP-DAT {
comment "DAT tape drives"
# data provided by Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
length 1930 mbytes
filemark 111 kbytes
speed 468 kbytes

I will edit this bugger.


Actually it is more or less correct: an HP-DAT is a DDS-1,
in the thime when there was no DDS-2, DDS-3 or DDS-4.

You better add you own define for a DDS-4
and then set tapetype to that new type.



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***
* I think I've got the hang of it now:  exit, ^D, ^C, ^\, ^Z, ^Q, F6, *
* quit,  ZZ, :q, :q!,  M-Z, ^X^C,  logoff, logout, close, bye,  /bye, *
* stop, end, F3, ~., ^]c, +++ ATH, disconnect, halt,  abort,  hangup, *
* PF4, F20, ^X^X, :D::D, KJOB, F14-f-e, F8-e,  kill -1 $$,  shutdown, *
* init 0, kill -9 1, Alt-F4, Ctrl-Alt-Del, AltGr-NumLock, Stop-A, ... *
* ...  "Are you sure?"  ...   YES   ...   Phew ...   I'm out  *
***




Re: out-of-tape on dump errors

2005-06-16 Thread Paul Bijnens

Mike Brodbelt wrote:

Peter Mueller wrote:
As I understand it, Amanda interpretes any non-ok result from the tape 
device as "out of tape" - as most backup and tape handling software does.



That filesystem has since backed up successfully, so I'm writing it down
to just a glitch in this case. Thanks for the above though, I hadn't
actually realised that out-of-tape was Amanda's catch-all.



Not only amanda, it the OS's catch-all.  When writing, the end of a tape
is not noticed when you have a "permanent" write error on that place.

When reading, there could be a difference: a permanent crc check
failure is different than reading not enough bytes.  But a broken tape
would be handled exactly the same when reading too.



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* quit,  ZZ, :q, :q!,  M-Z, ^X^C,  logoff, logout, close, bye,  /bye, *
* stop, end, F3, ~., ^]c, +++ ATH, disconnect, halt,  abort,  hangup, *
* PF4, F20, ^X^X, :D::D, KJOB, F14-f-e, F8-e,  kill -1 $$,  shutdown, *
* init 0, kill -9 1, Alt-F4, Ctrl-Alt-Del, AltGr-NumLock, Stop-A, ... *
* ...  "Are you sure?"  ...   YES   ...   Phew ...   I'm out  *
***




Backup to Hard Drive

2005-06-16 Thread Cody Holland
I'm a newb to Amanda, and would like to backup everything to a server
running Raid0.  I'm sure this is very possible, I just cannot find any
docs on it.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Cody



2.5.5 question

2005-06-16 Thread George Kelbley
I just upgraded from 2.4.4p3-2 to 2.5.0 (I need to use calsize to handle 
a Network Appliance filer).  My short test backup worked fine, but when
I ran my usual backup last night, amanda skipped more than half my DLE's 
because it thought it didn't have room on the tape.
It failed for some of the DLE's that use calcsize but also for my old 
"normal" tar based DLE's, and what's more, a bunch of the skipped 
entries are tiny, like 1KB.


I have a SDLT320 tape drive and amanda reports only 37% of the tape 
used, so it appears that something is really wrong.


I used my old amanda.conf with the addition of creating a new dumptype 
to use calcsize as the only change.


I'm gonna go through the debug files in detail next.

If anyone has any ideas I'd sure like to hear them.

thanks




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Re: out-of-tape on dump errors

2005-06-16 Thread Mike Brodbelt
Peter Mueller wrote:

>>Does anyone now why Amanda might generate an out of tape error in a
>>situation where it blatantly isn't anywhere even close to the end of the
>>tape?
>>
> 
> As I understand it, Amanda interpretes any non-ok result from the tape 
> device as "out of tape" - as most backup and tape handling software does.

That filesystem has since backed up successfully, so I'm writing it down
to just a glitch in this case. Thanks for the above though, I hadn't
actually realised that out-of-tape was Amanda's catch-all.

Mike.


Re: R: dump larger than tape, 2867765 KB, but cannot incremental dump newdisk

2005-06-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 16 June 2005 08:28, Chuck Amadi Systems Administrator 
wrote:
>Hi just posted it

Where?  It didn't make it to here so we can verify what you have.

>When I first configured I did rub the command that took for ever and
> a day.
>
>But I did have a 20gb tape in the drive.

Two things Chuck:

1) did you transfer the results into a new tapetype verse in your 
amanda.conf?

2)  Is the '?' key broken on your keyboard?  We are infering from the 
words that you are asking a question, but it would be nicer if it was 
properly marked.

>Cheers
>
>Is there a way to reset it as I have edited the
>
>On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 14:20 +0200, Montagni, Giovanni wrote:
>> Have you ever run amtapetype command? it seems amanda doesn't
>> recognize entire tape lenght...
>>
>> could paste us your tape definition?
>>
>> another stupid thing, is the tape rewinded?
>>
>> Giovanni
>>
>> -Messaggio originale-
>> Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] conto di Chuck Amadi
>> Systems Administrator
>> Inviato: giovedì 16 giugno 2005 14.03
>> A: Amanda List
>> Oggetto: dump larger than tape, 2867765 KB, but cannot incremental
>> dump newdisk
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi I have tried backing up "/" using the disklist
>> with a 20GB DDS-4 150MM DAT tape and I get this error below.
>> The size is only 3GB
>>
>> Is there a level I need to adjust in the amanda.conf file.
>>
>> sever.domain.co.uk:/ 0 planner: [dump larger than tape, 2867765
>> KB, but cannot incremental dump new disk]
>>
>> Cheers

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Re: dump larger than tape, 2862305 KB, but cannot incremental dump new disk

2005-06-16 Thread Paul Bijnens

Chuck Amadi Systems Administrator wrote:

DELAYING DUMPS IF NEEDED, total_size 2862734, tape length 1976320 mark


Somewhere in your configuration you have a tape length
of 1976320 KB == 1930 MB instead of 20gb.

Search for 1930 or 1976320 in amanda.conf to see it is defined.
Or post the amanda.conf.

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Re: R: dump larger than tape, 2867765 KB, but cannot incremental dump newdisk

2005-06-16 Thread Chuck Amadi Systems Administrator

Hi just posted it

When I first configured I did rub the command that took for ever and a
day.

But I did have a 20gb tape in the drive.

Cheers

Is there a way to reset it as I have edited the 
On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 14:20 +0200, Montagni, Giovanni wrote:
> Have you ever run amtapetype command? it seems amanda doesn't recognize 
> entire tape lenght...
> 
> could paste us your tape definition?
> 
> another stupid thing, is the tape rewinded?
> 
> Giovanni
> 
> -Messaggio originale-
> Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] conto di Chuck Amadi Systems
> Administrator
> Inviato: giovedì 16 giugno 2005 14.03
> A: Amanda List
> Oggetto: dump larger than tape, 2867765 KB, but cannot incremental dump
> newdisk
> 
> 
> 
> Hi I have tried backing up "/" using the disklist
> with a 20GB DDS-4 150MM DAT tape and I get this error below.
> The size is only 3GB
> 
> Is there a level I need to adjust in the amanda.conf file.
> 
> sever.domain.co.uk:/ 0 planner: [dump larger than tape, 2867765 KB, but
> cannot incremental dump new disk]
> 
> Cheers
> 
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Re: dump larger than tape, 2867765 KB, but cannot incremental dump new disk

2005-06-16 Thread Christoph Scheeder

Chuck Amadi Systems Administrator schrieb:

Hi I have tried backing up "/" using the disklist
with a 20GB DDS-4 150MM DAT tape and I get this error below.
The size is only 3GB

Is there a level I need to adjust in the amanda.conf file.

Um,
perhaps the tapesize parameter?
Christoph



sever.domain.co.uk:/ 0 planner: [dump larger than tape, 2867765 KB, but
cannot incremental dump new disk]

Cheers






dump larger than tape, 2862305 KB, but cannot incremental dump new disk

2005-06-16 Thread Chuck Amadi Systems Administrator
Hi agian

Here is my /var/lib/amanda/amdump.1

ANALYZING ESTIMATES...
pondering server.domian.co.uk:/... next_level0 -12951 last_level -1 (due
for level 0) (new disk, can't switch to degraded
mode)
  curr level 0 size 2862305 total size 2862734 total_lev0 2862305
balanced-lev0size 2862305
INITIAL SCHEDULE (size 2862734):
  server.domain.co.uk / pri 12951 lev 0 size 2862305

 
DELAYING DUMPS IF NEEDED, total_size 2862734, tape length 1976320 mark
111
planner: FAILED server.smtl.co.uk / 20050616 0 [dump larger than tape,
2862305 KB, but cannot incremental dump new disk]  delay: Total size now
286.

Any Ideas as I am using a 20GB dat tape.

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dump larger than tape, 2867765 KB, but cannot incremental dump new disk

2005-06-16 Thread Chuck Amadi Systems Administrator

Hi I have tried backing up "/" using the disklist
with a 20GB DDS-4 150MM DAT tape and I get this error below.
The size is only 3GB

Is there a level I need to adjust in the amanda.conf file.

sever.domain.co.uk:/ 0 planner: [dump larger than tape, 2867765 KB, but
cannot incremental dump new disk]

Cheers

-- 
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Chuck Amadi
The Surgical Material Testing Laboratory (SMTL), 
Princess of Wales Hospital 
Coity Road 
Bridgend, 
United Kingdom, CF31 1RQ.
Email chuck.smtl.co.uk
Tel: +44 1656 752820 
Fax: +44 1656 752830




Re: Amanda Statistics.

2005-06-16 Thread Mitch Collinsworth


On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Erik P. Olsen wrote:


Below the statistics from my last backup. I assume the times are all
elapsed times, but why is amanda so wrong in estimating the times? Or is
it a bug?

STATISTICS:
 Total   Full  Daily
         
Estimate Time (hrs:min)0:03
Run Time (hrs:min) 1:11
Dump Time (hrs:min)0:51   0:51   0:01
Output Size (meg)7692.4 7648.9   43.5
Original Size (meg) 11996.711886.5  110.2
Avg Compressed Size (%)64.1   64.4   39.4
(level:#disks ...)
Filesystems Dumped7  2  5   (1:5)
Avg Dump Rate (k/s)  2559.5 2584.4  950.4

Tape Time (hrs:min)0:49   0:49   0:00


0:03 is not the estimated time for the run, it's how long it took to
perform the estimate phase of the run.

-Mitch


Re: Amanda Statistics.

2005-06-16 Thread Christoph Scheeder

Erik P. Olsen schrieb:

Hi,

Below the statistics from my last backup. I assume the times are all
elapsed times, but why is amanda so wrong in estimating the times? Or is
it a bug?

STATISTICS:
  Total   Full  Daily
      
Estimate Time (hrs:min)0:03
Run Time (hrs:min) 1:11
Dump Time (hrs:min)0:51   0:51   0:01
Output Size (meg)7692.4 7648.9   43.5
Original Size (meg) 11996.711886.5  110.2
Avg Compressed Size (%)64.1   64.4   39.4
(level:#disks ...)
Filesystems Dumped7  2  5   (1:5)
Avg Dump Rate (k/s)  2559.5 2584.4  950.4

Tape Time (hrs:min)0:49   0:49   0:00


Errm,
"Estimate time" is not the estimated time to do the backups, it is the time it 
took to get the estimates for the size of the dumps.

Christoph


Amanda Statistics.

2005-06-16 Thread Erik P. Olsen
Hi,

Below the statistics from my last backup. I assume the times are all
elapsed times, but why is amanda so wrong in estimating the times? Or is
it a bug?

STATISTICS:
  Total   Full  Daily
      
Estimate Time (hrs:min)0:03
Run Time (hrs:min) 1:11
Dump Time (hrs:min)0:51   0:51   0:01
Output Size (meg)7692.4 7648.9   43.5
Original Size (meg) 11996.711886.5  110.2
Avg Compressed Size (%)64.1   64.4   39.4
(level:#disks ...)
Filesystems Dumped7  2  5   (1:5)
Avg Dump Rate (k/s)  2559.5 2584.4  950.4

Tape Time (hrs:min)0:49   0:49   0:00

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Re: many dumps in parallel

2005-06-16 Thread Paul Bijnens

Vects wrote:

Hello there,
I mentioned amanda runs only one dump of computer/partition the same
time. Is there any way configure amanda to run many dumps at once for
different computers? I have 6 computers to backup in disklist, it's
about 4 partitions per computer, backup takes long time to finish, I
want to speed it up by running parallel dumps to different computers.


Actually, that's the default behaviour of amanda: doing as much as
possible in parallel.  Why do you think it is not working that way?

One of the possibilities is that the holdingdisk is too small.
The parallelism is achieved by collecting all the dumps to holdingdisk.

If you want more than one dump running on one host in parallel, you
should increase maxdumps for that DLE, and set a spindle number on
each DLE.

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