Re: could not connect DATA stream
sorry for top-posting, but I give up. Or, my english is not good enough, or you succeed in answering clear questions with misty and foggy answers. On 2007-11-19 04:34, fedora wrote: Relabeling erases the tape, indeed. But why relabel it? Do you mean that you keep inserting the same tape over and over again until that one client succeeds? keep inserting for each dump to different tapes I don't understand your answer. Why not first trouble that one client? Make a diskist file with one small DLE from that client. And while testing the firewall-issues with that client, you do not have to insert a tape; just dump to holdingdisk. How to dump to holdingdisk? By reading the manual. (e.g set "reserve 0" and leave out the tape.) The reason why the images are not on the tape is worded in plain english above. Was there a tape in? Yes got tapes. Ok, you "got" them, but were they in the drive ? :-) Was it a tape that could be reused (older than tapecycle?) Yes. it is reused as in tapelist. Was it write protected? Yes. That's weird, because if it is write protected, than you cannot write to it. What did amcheck say about that tape before? amcheck said no problem found That's weird too, because amcheck would complain that the tape is write protected,, at least if you try the "amcheck -w" option (that you probably should do!). How did you allow those? Did it suceeed? Let's see the commands, so that we can verify them. Does your firewall do port-NAT interfering with the port ranges you specified? on client's shorewall firewall: ACCEPT net:x.x.x.x $FW udp 10080 ACCEPT net:x.x.x.x $FW tcp - 5:50100 whereby x.x.x.x is server I dont have firewall on server but in front of server got pfsense firewall. So in pfsense: UDP * * 10.200.30.150 10080 * TCP * * 10.200.30.1505 - 50100 * whereby 10.200.30.150 is amanda server (internal ip). It is mapping 1:1 from external ip to internal ip. But, as said above, much easier is to use bsdtcp which is much more firewall friendly. I think something wrong with my pfsense (not to say my rules doesnt work because I can backup for other 10 servers). Weird, it could be connection problem between my problem client and pfsense/sever. I had tried to route my server to use another server as a gateway instead of using pfsense. I can backup successfully. I will try on bsdtcp if that is alternative solutions. Thanks in advanced. ok, try that first. -- Paul Bijnens, xplanation Technology ServicesTel +32 16 397.511 Technologielaan 21 bus 2, B-3001 Leuven, BELGIUMFax +32 16 397.512 http://www.xplanation.com/ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** * I think I've got the hang of it now: exit, ^D, ^C, ^\, ^Z, ^Q, ^^, * * F6, quit, ZZ, :q, :q!, M-Z, ^X^C, logoff, logout, close, bye, /bye, * * stop, end, F3, ~., ^]c, +++ ATH, disconnect, halt, abort, hangup, * * PF4, F20, ^X^X, :D::D, KJOB, F14-f-e, F8-e, kill -1 $$, shutdown, * * init 0, kill -9 1, Alt-F4, Ctrl-Alt-Del, AltGr-NumLock, Stop-A, ... * * ... "Are you sure?" ... YES ... Phew ... I'm out * ***
Re: slow and only 1 dumper?
Thanks for the replies. I have now parallel dumpers, and they seem to be running faster as well. Regards, Charles On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 06:56:35 -0500 Jean-Louis Martineau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > amstatus clearly tell you it run one dumper because of 'no-bandwidth'. > You must increase 'netusage' and interface 'use' parameter. > > 'amadmin daily info' will tell the bandwidth (dump rates) for each > dle. > > Jean-Louis On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:31:06 +0100 Marc Muehlfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Check the amanda.conf parameters "maxdumps" and "inparallel". Having > too much maxdumps and the data is compressed on the client, then this > produces a high load and makes everything slow, too. -- Charles Stroom email: charles at no-spam.stremen.xs4all.nl (remove the "no-spam.")
amdump doesn't listen to -o option
We have a tape-robot with tapes to dump on, but sometimes I don't want to dump to tape directly: the data of some small clients, which are available during the Monday morning meeting of their users, should be hold, to be flushed to tape as side-effect of the nightly dumps of the other clients. Until now I forced this behaviour by making a symbolic link to a changer.conf with effectively 0 slots available. Not the neatest way to do it, but it worked. To make things neater, I tried to use the config overwrite option to amdump. But, saying amdump ... -o tapedev='/dev/null' of amdump ... -o tapedev='null:' doesn't do the trick: Amanda uses the tapedev from the configfile, and I end up with a near to empty tape. Why doesn't amdump do as I tell her, like status in the manpage? (I didn't look at the sources yet, I only read the manpages) Gerrit
Re: amdump doesn't listen to -o option
The problem is in the changer script, it doesn't use the -otapedev. The fix is to tell amdump to not use the changer: amdump ... -o tapedev=/no/such/device -o "tpchanger=" Jean-Louis Gerrit A. Smit -TI- wrote: We have a tape-robot with tapes to dump on, but sometimes I don't want to dump to tape directly: the data of some small clients, which are available during the Monday morning meeting of their users, should be hold, to be flushed to tape as side-effect of the nightly dumps of the other clients. Until now I forced this behaviour by making a symbolic link to a changer.conf with effectively 0 slots available. Not the neatest way to do it, but it worked. To make things neater, I tried to use the config overwrite option to amdump. But, saying amdump ... -o tapedev='/dev/null' of amdump ... -o tapedev='null:' doesn't do the trick: Amanda uses the tapedev from the configfile, and I end up with a near to empty tape. Why doesn't amdump do as I tell her, like status in the manpage? (I didn't look at the sources yet, I only read the manpages) Gerrit
mtx error, used with amanda
Opps, seem to have fixed the error myself, before bugging either list, however I will present the following in case there is something that might be generally helpful. My "fix" was to disable the barcode reader in the amanda config file that sets the mtx parameters. This is acceptable at my site since we have not applied barcode labels to all tapes and its only an L9 (9 tapes) with a limited tape pool of about 40 tapes, manually updated weekly. /usr/local/etc/amanda/notesx/chg-zd-mtx.conf havereader=0 == Platform, Solaris 9, Amanda 2.4.4, MTX 1.3.9 Similar error with amcheck, or amdump when moving jukebox to next tape. Interestingly, amtape works without error. > amlabel -f notesx NOTESX16 labeling tape in slot 2 (/dev/rmt/2un): rewinding, reading label NOTESX04, tape is active rewinding, writing label NOTESX16, checking labelBus error (core dumped) /tmp/amanda/amlabel.20071119094839.debug amlabel: debug 1 pid 2462 ruid 110 euid 110: start at Mon Nov 19 09:48:39 2007 changer: got exit: 0 str: 2 /dev/rmt/2un changer_label: NOTESX16 for slot 2 changer: got exit: 0 str: 2 6 1 1 changer_query: changer return was 6 1 1 changer_query: searchable = 1 changer_label: calling changer -label NOTESX16 changer: got exit: 2 str: Line 1 malformed in /usr/local/etc/amanda/notes x/chg-zd-mtx-barcodes: 0 file /tmp/amanda/chg-zd-mtx.20071119094906.debug chg-zd-mtx: debug 1 pid 2667 ruid 110 euid 110: start at Mon Nov 19 09:49:06 2007 09:49:06 Arg info: $# = 2 $0 = "/usr/local/libexec/chg-zd-mtx" $1 = "-label" $2 = "NOTESX16" 09:49:06 Running: mtx status 09:49:06 Exit code: 0 Stdout: Storage Changer /dev/scsi/changer/c6t4d0:1 Drives, 9 Slots ( 0 Import/Export ) Data Transfer Element 0:Full (Storage Element 2 Loaded):VolumeTag = Storage Element 1:Full :VolumeTag= Storage Element 2:Empty:VolumeTag= Storage Element 3:Full :VolumeTag=AF6428L1 Storage Element 4:Full :VolumeTag=AF6429L1 Storage Element 5:Full :VolumeTag=CLNI57L1 Storage Element 6:Full :VolumeTag=CLNI58L1 Storage Element 7:Empty:VolumeTag= Storage Element 8:Empty:VolumeTag= Storage Element 9:Full :VolumeTag= 09:49:07 Config info: firstslot = "1" lastslot = "6" cleanslot = "-1" cleancycle = "120" offline_before_unload = "0" unloadpause = "0" autoclean = "0" autocleancount = "99" havereader = "1" driveslot = "0" poll_drive_ready = "3" max_drive_wait = "500" 09:49:07 STATUS -> currently loaded slot = 2 -> currently loaded barcode = "" 09:49:07 LABEL-> Adding label "NOTESX16" with barcode "" for slot 2 into /usr/local/etc/amanda/notesx/chg-zd-mtx-barcodes 09:49:07 ERROR-> Line 1 malformed: 0 -> Remove /usr/local/etc/amanda/notesx/chg-zd-mtx-barcodes and run "/usr/local/sbin/amtape notesx update" 09:49:07 Exit (2) -> Line 1 malformed in /usr/local/etc/amanda/notesx/chg-zd-mtx-barcodes: 0 chg-zd-mtx: pid 2756 finish time Mon Nov 19 09:49:07 2007 > more /usr/local/etc/amanda/notesx/chg-zd-mtx-barcodes 0 > more /usr/local/etc/amanda/notesx/chg-zd-mtx.conf firstslot=1 lastslot=6 #cleanslot=3 AUTOCLEAN=0 autocleancount=99 havereader=1 offlinestatus=0 OFFLINE_BEFORE_UNLOAD=0 max_drive_wait=500 driveslot=0 --- Brian R Cuttler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Systems Support(v) 518 486-1697 Wadsworth Center(f) 518 473-6384 NYS Department of HealthHelp Desk 518 473-0773 IMPORTANT NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential or sensitive information which is, or may be, legally privileged or otherwise protected by law from further disclosure. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, please do not distribute, copy or use it or any attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this from your system. Thank you for your cooperation.
Amanda inside a Virtual Machine?
Greets, amanda-users, has anyone successfully tried to use Amanda inside a VM, especially one running on VMware ESX Server? ESX does bring its own hardened OS and from the infos I got so far it isn't possible to just install additional software (I will test that as soon my test license is here). So the idea of the customer was to run amanda inside a VM, accessing the physical tape(loader). I am unsure about the overall performance, though. Thanks for any ideas, Stefan
Re: Amanda inside a Virtual Machine?
Stefan, I think a related thread was discussed a couple of weeks ago. In my case, this is not something I'm doing, not running amanda within the virtual machine. Rather I am running amanda in the (Solaris) global-zone and using it to backup the non-global zone data, since its the partent/owner of all of the partitions. While I haven't tried recovery, I recall from the previous thread that amanda recovery of data from within the zone was successful. Pretty sure you can assign zones resources that aren't mounted as part of the global zone, but I have not done so. Well, in Solaris, I don't have a working knowledge of VMware. On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 04:57:21PM +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > Greets, amanda-users, > > has anyone successfully tried to use Amanda inside a VM, especially one > running on VMware ESX Server? > > ESX does bring its own hardened OS and from the infos I got so far it > isn't possible to just install additional software (I will test that as > soon my test license is here). > > So the idea of the customer was to run amanda inside a VM, accessing the > physical tape(loader). > > I am unsure about the overall performance, though. > > Thanks for any ideas, > > Stefan --- Brian R Cuttler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Systems Support(v) 518 486-1697 Wadsworth Center(f) 518 473-6384 NYS Department of HealthHelp Desk 518 473-0773 IMPORTANT NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential or sensitive information which is, or may be, legally privileged or otherwise protected by law from further disclosure. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, please do not distribute, copy or use it or any attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this from your system. Thank you for your cooperation.
Re: [Mtx-general] mtx error, used with amanda
Platform, Solaris 9, Amanda 2.4.4, MTX 1.3.9 Nope, not fixed, here are updated logs, any help would be apreciated. Oddly... we seem ok on the C2 jukebox but not the L9, same software on the same machine. Not even matching machines, two amanda configs on the same box (one runs weekdays and the other saturdays). Actually, it seems that mtx is doing its job, and a subsequent command to access the tape or robot shows that things completed successfully, however there is something wrong with amanda or the amanda/mtx interface. (but its the same amanda and glue for both configs...) thanks, Brian On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 10:00:44AM -0500, Brian Cuttler wrote: > > Opps, seem to have fixed the error myself, before bugging either > list, however I will present the following in case there is something > that might be generally helpful. > > My "fix" was to disable the barcode reader in the amanda config > file that sets the mtx parameters. This is acceptable at my site > since we have not applied barcode labels to all tapes and its only > an L9 (9 tapes) with a limited tape pool of about 40 tapes, manually > updated weekly. > amtape notesx update amtape: scanning all 6 slots in tape-changer rack: slot 6: date X label NOTESX20 slot 1: date 20071119 label NOTESX15 slot : could not read result from "/usr/local/libexec/chg-zd-mtx" slot : could not read result from "/usr/local/libexec/chg-zd-mtx" amtape: could not load slot 4: badly formed result from changer: "4" > cat amtape.20071119150444.debug amtape: debug 1 pid 10558 ruid 110 euid 110: start at Mon Nov 19 15:04:44 2007 changer: got exit: 0 str: 6 6 1 changer: got exit: 0 str: 6 /dev/rmt/2un changer_label: NOTESX20 for slot 6 changer: got exit: 0 str: 6 6 1 changer_query: changer return was 6 1 changer_query: searchable = 0 changer: got exit: 0 str: 1 /dev/rmt/2un changer_label: NOTESX15 for slot 1 changer: got exit: 0 str: 1 6 1 changer_query: changer return was 6 1 changer_query: searchable = 0 changer: got exit: 1 str: could not read result from "/usr/local/libexec/chg-zd-mtx" changer: got exit: 1 str: could not read result from "/usr/local/libexec/chg-zd-mtx" changer: got exit: 0 str: 4 amtape: could not load slot 4: badly formed result from changer: "4" amtape: pid 10558 finish time Mon Nov 19 15:09:19 2007 > cat chg-zd-mtx.20071119150815.debug chg-zd-mtx: debug 1 pid 11363 ruid 110 euid 110: start at Mon Nov 19 15:08:15 2007 15:08:16 Arg info: $# = 2 $0 = "/usr/local/libexec/chg-zd-mtx" $1 = "-slot" $2 = "next" 15:08:16 Running: mtx status 15:08:16 Exit code: 0 Stdout: Storage Changer /dev/scsi/changer/c6t4d0:1 Drives, 9 Slots ( 0 Import/Export ) Data Transfer Element 0:Full (Storage Element 3 Loaded):VolumeTag = AF6428L1 Storage Element 1:Full :VolumeTag= Storage Element 2:Full :VolumeTag= Storage Element 3:Empty:VolumeTag= Storage Element 4:Full :VolumeTag=AF6429L1 Storage Element 5:Full :VolumeTag=CLNI57L1 Storage Element 6:Full :VolumeTag=CLNI58L1 Storage Element 7:Empty:VolumeTag= Storage Element 8:Empty:VolumeTag= Storage Element 9:Full :VolumeTag= 15:08:16 Config info: firstslot = "1" lastslot = "6" cleanslot = "-1" cleancycle = "120" offline_before_unload = "0" unloadpause = "0" autoclean = "0" autocleancount = "99" havereader = "0" driveslot = "0" poll_drive_ready = "3" max_drive_wait = "500" 15:08:16 LOADSLOT -> load drive 0 (/dev/rmt/2un) from slot next 15:08:16 STATUS -> currently loaded slot = 3 -> currently loaded barcode = "AF6428L1" 15:08:16 EJECT-> ejecting tape from /dev/rmt/2un 15:08:16 STATUS -> currently loaded slot = 3 -> currently loaded barcode = "AF6428L1" 15:08:16 EJECT-> moving tape from drive 0 to storage slot 3 15:08:16 Running: mtx unload 3 0 15:08:47 Exit code: 0 Stdout: Unloading drive 0 into Storage Element 3...done 15:08:47 -> status 0, result "Unloading drive 0 into Storage Element 3...done" 15:08:47 Return (0) -> 3 /dev/rmt/2un 15:08:47 LOADSLOT -> loading tape from slot 4 to drive 0 (/dev/rmt/2un)
Network backups.
I want to remotely backup a machine and I want the data to have some sort of encryption while it is going across the net between the client and server. I don't want to store the data encrypted on the tape or on the server's holding disk. I just want to make sure data doesn't go across the net in the clear. Does amanda encrypt the data at all when it sends the dump from the client to the host ? IS there a mechanism, possibly in conjunctions with ssh that will allow me to encrypt the data while in transit ? I am running amanda 2.5.0p2 according to amcheck Thanks Chris Kottaridis([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [Mtx-general] mtx error, used with amanda
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007, Brian Cuttler wrote: Platform, Solaris 9, Amanda 2.4.4, MTX 1.3.9 Nope, not fixed, here are updated logs, any help would be apreciated. Oddly... we seem ok on the C2 jukebox but not the L9, same software on the same machine. Not even matching machines, two amanda configs on the same box (one runs weekdays and the other saturdays). Actually, it seems that mtx is doing its job, and a subsequent command to access the tape or robot shows that things completed successfully, however there is something wrong with amanda or the amanda/mtx interface. (but its the same amanda and glue for both configs...) Could it be some sort of unidentified race condition with the amanda library functions and mtx attempting to access some resource at the same time without any way of preventing overlapping access attempts from colliding into each other along the way? My tape host system is a similar config (Sol 9 on Ultra 2, Amanda 2.5.2, mtx 1.3.11 talking to a Sun-badged L9 array) and it's been operating fine since all the issues with devices, and configuration were resolved. Craig. PS. I'm getting a new cleaning tape for my L9 this week and wondered if anyone has thought more about how to get cleaning tape usage incorporated into the Amanda schema somehow? I have left a spare slot in the array cartridge for the cleaning tape to sit in. -- Post by Craig Dewick (tm). Web @ "http://lios.apana.org.au/~cdewick";. Email 2 "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". SunShack @ "http://www.sunshack.org"; Galleries @ "http://www.sunshack.org/gallery2";. Also lots of tech data, etc. Sun Microsystems webring at "http://n.webring.com/hub?ring=sunmicrosystemsu";.
Problem with Exclude Lists
I have several excludelists and most work but one doesn't. Here's an example of one that works. In amanda.conf: define dumptype comp-ambiance-home1-tar { global exclude list "/usr/local/etc/amanda/genepi/home1-excludelist" program "GNUTAR" comment "user partitions dumped with tar" compress client fast priority medium } Here is home1-excludelist: ./anal2/CVG Here is another one (this one doesn't work, all files are still backed up): define dumptype comp-grandeur-gen13-tar { global exclude list "/usr/local/etc/amanda/genepi/gen13-excludelist" program "GNUTAR" comment "user partitions dumped with tar" compress client fast priority medium } Here is gen13-excludelist: ./gen13/coal/r03/noback/ I'm using amanda 2.5.2p1. Is this too deep to exclude? Can anyone help me debug this? Thanks, Steve -- Steven J. BackusComputer Specialist University of Utah E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Genetic EpidemiologyAlternate: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 391 Chipeta Way -- Suite D150 Office: 801.587.9308 Salt Lake City, UT 84108-1266 http://www.math.utah.edu/~backus
Re: [Mtx-general] mtx error, used with amanda
Craig, On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 07:51:00AM +1100, Craig Dewick wrote: > On Mon, 19 Nov 2007, Brian Cuttler wrote: > > >Platform, Solaris 9, Amanda 2.4.4, MTX 1.3.9 > >Nope, not fixed, here are updated logs, any help would be apreciated. > > > >Oddly... we seem ok on the C2 jukebox but not the L9, same software > >on the same machine. Not even matching machines, two amanda configs > >on the same box (one runs weekdays and the other saturdays). > > > >Actually, it seems that mtx is doing its job, and a subsequent > >command to access the tape or robot shows that things completed > >successfully, however there is something wrong with amanda or > >the amanda/mtx interface. (but its the same amanda and glue for > >both configs...) > > Could it be some sort of unidentified race condition with the amanda > library functions and mtx attempting to access some resource at the same > time without any way of preventing overlapping access attempts from > colliding into each other along the way? I (successfully) ran the same L9 (apparently the same one you have) on my v280R and the other E250 next to this E250 and had no problems. I'm not running the amanda configs at the same time... I'd think scripts or binaries, but the C2 on the same box is working ok. Just not sure where to look. > My tape host system is a similar config (Sol 9 on Ultra 2, Amanda 2.5.2, > mtx 1.3.11 talking to a Sun-badged L9 array) and it's been operating fine > since all the issues with devices, and configuration were resolved. > > Craig. > > PS. I'm getting a new cleaning tape for my L9 this week and wondered if > anyone has thought more about how to get cleaning tape usage incorporated > into the Amanda schema somehow? I have left a spare slot in the array > cartridge for the cleaning tape to sit in. The tape config file in the amanda config directory has options for cleaning slot and tape count between cleanings, is that what you are thinking of ? --- Brian R Cuttler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Systems Support(v) 518 486-1697 Wadsworth Center(f) 518 473-6384 NYS Department of HealthHelp Desk 518 473-0773 IMPORTANT NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential or sensitive information which is, or may be, legally privileged or otherwise protected by law from further disclosure. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, please do not distribute, copy or use it or any attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this from your system. Thank you for your cooperation.
Re: Network backups.
Chris Kottaridis wrote: I want to remotely backup a machine and I want the data to have some sort of encryption while it is going across the net between the client and server. I don't want to store the data encrypted on the tape or on the server's holding disk. I just want to make sure data doesn't go across the net in the clear. Does amanda encrypt the data at all when it sends the dump from the client to the host ? IS there a mechanism, possibly in conjunctions with ssh that will allow me to encrypt the data while in transit ? I am running amanda 2.5.0p2 according to amcheck yup. I believe starting with 2.5.0 (though I would upgrade since there are improvements and fixes and your version is probably over a year old now). You just need to set up auth ssh. Check the following documents: http://wiki.zmanda.com/index.php/Server/Client_authentication http://wiki.zmanda.com/index.php/Configuring_SSH_authentication I've been using it since early in 2007. --- Chris Hoogendyk - O__ Systems Administrator c/ /'_ --- Biology & Geology Departments (*) \(*) -- 140 Morrill Science Center ~~ - University of Massachusetts, Amherst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Erdös 4
Re: Problem with Exclude Lists
Steven Backus wrote: Here is gen13-excludelist: ./gen13/coal/r03/noback/ I'm using amanda 2.5.2p1. Is this too deep to exclude? Can anyone help me debug this? I think your exclude will match nothing, you should read gnutar documentation. Use './gen13/coal/r03/noback' or './gen13/coal/r03/noback/*'. Jean-Louis
Re: Problem with Exclude Lists
>From Jean-Louis Martineau writes: > I think your exclude will match nothing, you should read gnutar > documentation. > Use './gen13/coal/r03/noback' or './gen13/coal/r03/noback/*'. Thanks very much! I didn't even think of that, it really helps to have someone else look at your problem. Steve -- Steven J. BackusComputer Specialist University of Utah E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Genetic EpidemiologyAlternate: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 391 Chipeta Way -- Suite D150 Office: 801.587.9308 Salt Lake City, UT 84108-1266 http://www.math.utah.edu/~backus
restarting amanda after updating amanda.conf
I'm new to Amanda and after several days of reading the docs. I'm still unclear as to when is it necessary to restart Amanda. In particular, is it necessary for me to restart amanda after making changes to the amanda.conffile on the tapehost? If so, what is the proper way to restart amanda? --Gil Vidals
Re: restarting amanda after updating amanda.conf
Gil Vidals wrote: I'm new to Amanda and after several days of reading the docs. I'm still unclear as to when is it necessary to restart Amanda. In particular, is it necessary for me to restart amanda after making changes to the amanda.conf file on the tapehost? If so, what is the proper way to restart amanda? Amanda is not a daemon. Programs that constitute Amanda only run when you run them, or when you schedule them off cron. So there is no restarting unless you happen to have a job running that has gone awry. Then you may have to kill something and/or run amcleanup (I've never had to do that). Typically, if I'm not sure what is going on, and Amanda is running, I'll run amstatus, and it gives me plenty of information that generally puts me at ease. --- Chris Hoogendyk - O__ Systems Administrator c/ /'_ --- Biology & Geology Departments (*) \(*) -- 140 Morrill Science Center ~~ - University of Massachusetts, Amherst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Erdös 4