Running amflush to a Separate Tape

2007-12-13 Thread Tom Herrera

I am new to both Linux and Amanda, so please be gentle. I've recently come
over from the dark side of Windoze.

I've inherited a small net from a previous sysop. He was using Amanda on two
servers, and I would like to continue use, but I'm finding it a bit
challenging.

I've gotten as far as determining there are a large number of Amanda
directories left on the holding disk. I would like to flush those to an
entirely separate tape, outside of my Daily config, but am unsure how to do
this.  I would like to flush those directories today if possible, so that I
can move on to resolving errors on the amreport I receive (and which I will
ask about in a separate email).

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Tom
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Re: Running amflush to a Separate Tape

2007-12-13 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 07:33:25AM -0800, Tom Herrera wrote:
 
 I am new to both Linux and Amanda, so please be gentle. I've recently come
 over from the dark side of Windoze.
 
 I've inherited a small net from a previous sysop. He was using Amanda on two
 servers, and I would like to continue use, but I'm finding it a bit
 challenging.
 
 I've gotten as far as determining there are a large number of Amanda
 directories left on the holding disk. I would like to flush those to an
 entirely separate tape, outside of my Daily config, but am unsure how to do
 this.  I would like to flush those directories today if possible, so that I
 can move on to resolving errors on the amreport I receive (and which I will
 ask about in a separate email).
 
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 


The phrase outside of my Daily config gives me trouble.

These files on the holding disk represent completed, but untaped,
backups of file systems and directory trees that amanda's logs
have already recorded.  If needed, they are available for restoration
whether on the holding disk or taped to a Daily config tape.  Were it
feasible to amflush to a different config you might lose this ability.

That said, if you just want it taped in case you want or need it,
simply tar or dd the holding disk to a blank, non-amanda tape.

My alternative recommendation, seeing as you seem to have available
tapes, is to amflush them within your Daily config.  If you don't
want to upset the current set of tapes use amlabel to add a few
newly labeled tapes to your Daily config tapelist file.  If your
current tapes go from ?Daily?-001 to ?Daily?-050, maybe do a few
in the -100 range.  Then when you amflush make sure only your
newly labeled tapes are in the drive/library.  Amanda will always
happily use a new tape.

Note, depending on the volume of data on the holding disk and
the runtapes parameter in your amanda.conf file it may be
necessary to make multiple runs of amflush.

jl
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Re: Running amflush to a Separate Tape

2007-12-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 13 December 2007, Tom Herrera wrote:
I am new to both Linux and Amanda, so please be gentle. I've recently come
over from the dark side of Windoze.

I've inherited a small net from a previous sysop. He was using Amanda on two
servers, and I would like to continue use, but I'm finding it a bit
challenging.

I've gotten as far as determining there are a large number of Amanda
directories left on the holding disk. I would like to flush those to an
entirely separate tape, outside of my Daily config, but am unsure how to do
this.  I would like to flush those directories today if possible, so that I
can move on to resolving errors on the amreport I receive (and which I will
ask about in a separate email).

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Tom

Generally speaking, Tom, anything that's left in the holding disk, probably 
due to a tape error, is still part of the database amanda keeps, so they 
should be flushed to the next available tape in the rotation.  Otherwise you 
are miss-placing valuable info that amanda may need in the future.

The real question is why they were not properly flushed originally.

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Re: Running amflush to a Separate Tape

2007-12-13 Thread Tom Herrera


Gene Heskett wrote:
 
 Generally speaking, Tom, anything that's left in the holding disk,
 probably 
 due to a tape error, is still part of the database amanda keeps, so they 
 should be flushed to the next available tape in the rotation.  Otherwise
 you 
 are miss-placing valuable info that amanda may need in the future.
 
 The real question is why they were not properly flushed originally.
 

Gene and Jon,

Thanks for the quick replies.  I am not at all sure why there are so many
directories to be flushed - they range in age from March thru last week, and
they all, but the last, apply to a time before I became sysop here. So I am
not all that concerned about the ancient ones, I'd just like to flush the
last one (recent) and move ahead.

So it would be okay for me to tar/gzip all the other directories?  If I
remove them Amanda won't get mad at me?  Or do I somehow need to tell Amanad
hey, those aren't so important anymore.

Tom
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Re: Running amflush to a Separate Tape

2007-12-13 Thread Chris Hoogendyk

Gene Heskett wrote:

On Thursday 13 December 2007, Tom Herrera wrote:
  

I am new to both Linux and Amanda, so please be gentle. I've recently come
over from the dark side of Windoze.

I've inherited a small net from a previous sysop. He was using Amanda on two
servers, and I would like to continue use, but I'm finding it a bit
challenging.

I've gotten as far as determining there are a large number of Amanda
directories left on the holding disk. I would like to flush those to an
entirely separate tape, outside of my Daily config, but am unsure how to do
this.  I would like to flush those directories today if possible, so that I
can move on to resolving errors on the amreport I receive (and which I will
ask about in a separate email).

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Tom



Generally speaking, Tom, anything that's left in the holding disk, probably 
due to a tape error, is still part of the database amanda keeps, so they 
should be flushed to the next available tape in the rotation.  Otherwise you 
are miss-placing valuable info that amanda may need in the future.


The real question is why they were not properly flushed originally.
  





One other point to check. Since Tom is coming new into an existing 
setup, and didn't specify in his original post, it's possible those are 
from another amanda configuration that is not being run. The names of 
the files should indicate when and what they are from. I mean, if the 
daily is running and writing a tape, and there are still things being 
left on the holding disk, then Tom needs to figure out why they are 
still there. First step is to know for sure where they came from. Then, 
if they are from the daily that is currently being run, why were they 
left on the holding disk?



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Re: Running amflush to a Separate Tape

2007-12-13 Thread Tom Herrera


Chris Hoogendyk wrote:
 
 One other point to check. Since Tom is coming new into an existing 
 setup, and didn't specify in his original post, it's possible those are 
 from another amanda configuration that is not being run. The names of 
 the files should indicate when and what they are from. I mean, if the 
 daily is running and writing a tape, and there are still things being 
 left on the holding disk, then Tom needs to figure out why they are 
 still there. First step is to know for sure where they came from. Then, 
 if they are from the daily that is currently being run, why were they 
 left on the holding disk?
 

I checked, and all the directories on the holding disk are associated with
the one and only amanda config file on the system, named Daily.  Since I was
not here for the bulk of the directories listed I am not sure why they were
never flushed.

Still curious if it is okay, amanda-wise, to just remove the ancient
directories, or if I have to do something more than that.



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Re: Running amflush to a Separate Tape

2007-12-13 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 11:24:53AM -0800, Tom Herrera wrote:
 
 
 Chris Hoogendyk wrote:
  
  One other point to check. Since Tom is coming new into an existing 
  setup, and didn't specify in his original post, it's possible those are 
  from another amanda configuration that is not being run. The names of 
  the files should indicate when and what they are from. I mean, if the 
  daily is running and writing a tape, and there are still things being 
  left on the holding disk, then Tom needs to figure out why they are 
  still there. First step is to know for sure where they came from. Then, 
  if they are from the daily that is currently being run, why were they 
  left on the holding disk?
  
 
 I checked, and all the directories on the holding disk are associated with
 the one and only amanda config file on the system, named Daily.  Since I was
 not here for the bulk of the directories listed I am not sure why they were
 never flushed.
 
 Still curious if it is okay, amanda-wise, to just remove the ancient
 directories, or if I have to do something more than that.
 

When you run amflush it will ask which directories/dates you wish to
flush.  After you have done the one(s) you want, I think it is safe
to blow away the ones you don't want.  The logs will rotate and be
deleted on their own.  Or archive them; or if space on holding disk
is not a problem, leave them for later.

After doing the above I'd also suggest running amcleanup.

jl
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Re: Running amflush to a Separate Tape

2007-12-13 Thread John E Hein
Tom Herrera wrote at 11:24 -0800 on Dec 13, 2007:
  Still curious if it is okay, amanda-wise, to just remove the ancient
  directories, or if I have to do something more than that.

Try 'amadmin config_name holding delete ...'
(see the amadmin man page)

I think this is a new feature in amanda 2.5.2

This is a little better than just blowing the dirs away.
If you do that, you could leave some log  index turds.
Usually this stuff is cleaned up over time, but not always.


Please add amdump to the line in .amandahosts

2007-12-13 Thread Brian Cuttler

Hi, Solaris 9 Server with amanda 2.4.4
Client is a zone on a solaris 10 system running amanda 2.5.2p1.

 amcheck -c info

Amanda Backup Client Hosts Check

ERROR: NAK squidzone1: user amanda from 199.184.30.36 is not allowed to execute 
the service noop: Please add amdump to the line in 
/export/home/amanda/.amandahosts on the client
WARNING: panther: selfcheck request timed out.  Host down?
Client check: 16 hosts checked in 30.356 seconds, 2 problems found

I didn't see a clear answer to this on the net/lists so I thought
I'd throw my 2cents in.

Issue was not (In my case) file ownerships nor protections on the
client, but rather seems to be that the zone is not able to resolve
the IP of the amanda server.

I've defered that to the admin for this particular box, in the
mean time I've added the IP address to .amandahosts on the client
and have gotten clean output from amcheck.

Nothing earth shaking here, just a matter of top-down problem
solving and making sure that all of the assumptions, like DNS
working correctly, where actually true.

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