Re: What causes this error?

2010-11-15 Thread Rhys Rhaven
Looks like the bug that I posted, which I believe Jean-Louis sent the 
patch for. I've been unable to test it as of yet.


On 11/15/2010 04:11 PM, Robert Heller wrote:

At Mon, 15 Nov 2010 15:34:31 -0500 Jean-Louis Martineau  
wrote:

   

Because ravel:/mnt/RAID0 was not dumped.
Check the email report to know why or the client debug file (on ravel)
 

The E-Mail report just says:

FAILURE DUMP SUMMARY:
   ravel /mnt/RAID0 RESULTS MISSING
   ravel /mnt/RAID0 lev 1  FAILED [can't dump in degraded mode]


And there isn't a sendbackup debug file for /mnt/RAID0.  There are
sendbackup debug files for the other file systems on ravel. There is a
sendsize debug file for /mnt/RAID0 on ravel.

   

Jean-Louis

Robert Heller wrote:
 

Using /var/log/amanda/60villagedrive/amdump.1
 From Mon Nov 15 00:10:02 EST 2010

bach:/   183m finished (0:17:59)
haydn:/  147m finished (0:20:35)
ravel:/  189m finished (0:20:36)
ravel:/mnt/RAID0 1   816m failed: process terminated while waiting for 
dumping
ravel:/mnt/sdb2  1 0m finished (0:20:34)
..

This is in a CentOS 5.5 system:

-sh-3.2$ rpm -qa amanda\* perl dump
amanda-backup_server-3.2.0-1.rhel5
dump-0.4b41-4.el5
perl-5.8.8-32.el5_5.2




   


 
   




Re: What causes this error?

2010-11-15 Thread Robert Heller
At Mon, 15 Nov 2010 15:34:31 -0500 Jean-Louis Martineau  
wrote:

> 
> Because ravel:/mnt/RAID0 was not dumped.
> Check the email report to know why or the client debug file (on ravel)

The E-Mail report just says:

FAILURE DUMP SUMMARY:
  ravel /mnt/RAID0 RESULTS MISSING
  ravel /mnt/RAID0 lev 1  FAILED [can't dump in degraded mode]


And there isn't a sendbackup debug file for /mnt/RAID0.  There are
sendbackup debug files for the other file systems on ravel. There is a
sendsize debug file for /mnt/RAID0 on ravel.

> 
> Jean-Louis
> 
> Robert Heller wrote:
> > Using /var/log/amanda/60villagedrive/amdump.1
> > From Mon Nov 15 00:10:02 EST 2010
> >
> > bach:/   183m finished (0:17:59)
> > haydn:/  147m finished (0:20:35)
> > ravel:/  189m finished (0:20:36)
> > ravel:/mnt/RAID0 1   816m failed: process terminated while waiting for 
> > dumping 
> > ravel:/mnt/sdb2  1 0m finished (0:20:34)
> > ..
> >
> > This is in a CentOS 5.5 system:
> >
> > -sh-3.2$ rpm -qa amanda\* perl dump 
> > amanda-backup_server-3.2.0-1.rhel5
> > dump-0.4b41-4.el5
> > perl-5.8.8-32.el5_5.2
> >
> >
> >
> >   
> 
>

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Re: What causes this error?

2010-11-15 Thread Jean-Louis Martineau

Because ravel:/mnt/RAID0 was not dumped.
Check the email report to know why or the client debug file (on ravel)

Jean-Louis

Robert Heller wrote:

Using /var/log/amanda/60villagedrive/amdump.1
From Mon Nov 15 00:10:02 EST 2010

bach:/   183m finished (0:17:59)
haydn:/  147m finished (0:20:35)
ravel:/  189m finished (0:20:36)
ravel:/mnt/RAID0 1   816m failed: process terminated while waiting for dumping 
ravel:/mnt/sdb2  1 0m finished (0:20:34)

..

This is in a CentOS 5.5 system:

-sh-3.2$ rpm -qa amanda\* perl dump 
amanda-backup_server-3.2.0-1.rhel5

dump-0.4b41-4.el5
perl-5.8.8-32.el5_5.2



  




What causes this error?

2010-11-15 Thread Robert Heller
Using /var/log/amanda/60villagedrive/amdump.1
>From Mon Nov 15 00:10:02 EST 2010

bach:/   183m finished (0:17:59)
haydn:/  147m finished (0:20:35)
ravel:/  189m finished (0:20:36)
ravel:/mnt/RAID0 1   816m failed: process terminated while waiting for 
dumping 
ravel:/mnt/sdb2  1 0m finished (0:20:34)
..

This is in a CentOS 5.5 system:

-sh-3.2$ rpm -qa amanda\* perl dump 
amanda-backup_server-3.2.0-1.rhel5
dump-0.4b41-4.el5
perl-5.8.8-32.el5_5.2



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Re: planner bumps to level 4 are actually done as level 0's

2010-11-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday, November 15, 2010 07:21:15 am Jean-Louis Martineau did opine:

> Don't use tar-1.24 or 1.25, they don't works with amanda according to:
>   http://www.mail-archive.com/bug-...@gnu.org/msg02993.html
> 
> Jean-Louis
> 
Which with careful reading, explains why the dumps have been so darned 
small the last 2 days.  So I just forced tar-1.23 back in.  Thanks Jean-
Louis.  In fact, I think I'll run my catchup script, set for dumpcycle +1 
repeats as insurance.  Humm, errors out, the directory it keeps a log file 
in had gone missing.  Fixed, running.

I wonder how long it will take to get a 1.26, and then get it into pclos 
repo's...

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Re: planner bumps to level 4 are actually done as level 0's

2010-11-15 Thread Jean-Louis Martineau

Don't use tar-1.24 or 1.25, they don't works with amanda according to:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/bug-...@gnu.org/msg02993.html

Jean-Louis

Gene Heskett wrote:

On Sunday, November 14, 2010 02:48:23 am Jean-Louis Martineau did opine:

  

It probably did a level 0 because it was time to do it. What's the
dumpcycle? When was the last level 0?
Post the amdump.1 log file.

Gene Heskett wrote:


From the canary;

Someone using tapes which do have a fixed, finite size, is going to
get bitten, but so far my messages appear to be going to a black
hole.

Whenever planner advances the backup level to a level 4, the rest of
the system treats it as if it was a level 0.

I can raise the BUMPMULT to prevent that I suppose, but wouldn't it
make more sense to fix it?  I get the impression there is a modulo 4
someplace in the middle.

Last night planner set /home to level 4.  But In
/tmp/amanda-dbug/server/Daily,
[r...@coyote Daily]# grep level *.20101112*.debug|grep /home
shows the dumplevel as 0 in all returns.  And no returns contain
planner hits as planner does not say 'level', just the number.

Moving to /tmp/amanda-dbg/client/Daily, that same grep shows the
estimate calls only:
[r...@coyote Daily]# grep level *.20101112*.debug|grep /home
amgtar.20101112005020008.debug:Fri Nov 12 00:51:26 2010: amgtar:
estimate time for /home level 0: 65.394
amgtar.20101112005020008.debug:Fri Nov 12 00:51:26 2010: amgtar:
estimate size for /home level 0: 20135930 KB
amgtar.20101112005020008.debug:Fri Nov 12 00:51:47 2010: amgtar:
estimate time for /home level 3: 15.648
amgtar.20101112005020008.debug:Fri Nov 12 00:51:47 2010: amgtar:
estimate size for /home level 3: 3414990 KB
amgtar.20101112005020008.debug:Fri Nov 12 00:52:08 2010: amgtar:
estimate time for /home level 4: 15.496
amgtar.20101112005020008.debug:Fri Nov 12 00:52:08 2010: amgtar:
estimate size for /home level 4: 3316150 KB
sendsize.20101112005019.debug:Fri Nov 12 00:50:20 2010: sendsize:
getting size via application API for /home /home level 0
sendsize.20101112005019.debug:Fri Nov 12 00:50:20 2010: sendsize:
getting size via application API for /home /home level 3
sendsize.20101112005019.debug:Fri Nov 12 00:50:20 2010: sendsize:
getting size via application API for /home /home level 4
sendsize.20101112005019.debug:Fri Nov 12 00:50:20 2010: sendsize:
running: "/usr/local/libexec/amanda/application/amgtar estimate
--message line --config Daily --host coyote --device /home --disk
/home --level 0 --level 3 --level 4 --exclude-list
/GenesAmandaHelper-0.6/excludes --check-device no"
sendsize.20101112005019.debug:Fri Nov 12 00:52:08 2010: sendsize:
estimate size for /home level 0: 20135930 KB
sendsize.20101112005019.debug:Fri Nov 12 00:52:08 2010: sendsize:
estimate size for /home level 3: 3414990 KB
sendsize.20101112005019.debug:Fri Nov 12 00:52:08 2010: sendsize:
estimate size for /home level 4: 3316150 KB
sendsize.20101112005019.debug:Fri Nov 12 00:52:08 2010: sendsize:
estimate time for /home all level: 107.406

But it actually did the whole 20 gigabyte level 0.  gzipped to 12. 
?
  


Another run tonight is very confusing.  I let synaptic install tar-1.24, 
and in tonights email from amanda there are several things that don't make 
any sense in terms of the level stated vs the level performed.


Using tar-1.24, and 3.2.0-svn-3621 the levels the planner decided to use 
are the levels performed, but they are reported as level 0's despite the 
output sizes obviously being nothing more than the directory listing of say 
10kb.


I think I am going to backup a version a night until the mistakes 
disappear.  But I'll start with 3.2.0.svn.3608 since I believe I saw this 
the first time at that snapshot.  Then 3603, 3599, 3577.  Earlier than that 
I start doing fresh tarballs.


amdump.1 from this messed up run is attached.



  




Re: Ominous message from amrecover -- what does it mean?

2010-11-15 Thread Jean-Louis Martineau

Robert Heller wrote:

When recovering a single directory from a backup (as a test) I got this
message from amrecover:

All existing files in /mnt/RAID0 can be deleted
Continue [?/Y/n]? 


What's the significance of this rather ominous sounding line?
Restoring  backup can delete file to get the filesystem state exactly as 
it was during the backup, amanda don't know what file will be removed, 
so it warn that all files can vbe deleted.


It's is always safer to do a restore in an empty directory.

Jean-Louis


Re: Question about amrecover and deleted files.

2010-11-15 Thread Jean-Louis Martineau

amrecover will recover the full dump followed by the dump of day 3.

The full dump will restore files a, b & c
The dump of day 3 will delete file a & b

The result is you get get only the file c.
You get the filesystem as it was while the latest restored backup was done.

Jean-Louis

Robert Heller wrote:

I have a client that has a (to me anyway) 'strange' scenario:

"Think about this scenario.
Day 1: Directory x has files, a, b & c.  Amanda does a full backup
Day 2: rm file a.  Amanda does a differential backup
Day 3: rm file b.  Amanda does a differential backup,
Day 4:  Directory x has only file c.  We remove Directory x.  And
restore Directory x.  .  From what you are saying, the restored
Directory would have files a, b & c.  I would expect to restore
Directory x with only file c -- the state of the directory upon the
last amanda backup."

Question: what will be in Directory x after doing an amrecover of
Directory x?  Will files a and b be restored or not?  And why or why
not?  What is considered the correct answer to this partitular thought
exercise? And why?

As a long time computer user *my* expectation would be for Directory x
to have all three files, a, b & c in it after the recover.  Is my
expectation wrong? Why?

Note: this is *separate* from a full restore in the event of a disk
crash.

Side question: would the above answers *change* if the backups were done
with gnutar instead of dump?