Archiving with amanda revisited

2008-08-07 Thread Gunnarsson, Gunnar
Hi all,

Thanks for an excellent software. 

I was searching the forum and found a question regarding archiving. As
I'm using vtapes this would be a great feature to have, being able to
collect the 0 images and save them on tape and continue to use the tool
kit, amrecover etc. What is the status on this useful feature ?

http://archives.zmanda.com/amanda-archives/viewtopic.php?t=3866highligh
t=archiving


Gunnar Gunnarsson



Re: Archiving with amanda

2007-11-08 Thread Paul Bijnens

On 2007-11-06 17:04, Mario Silva wrote:

Hi all:

Hope everyone is ok.

I got a question and hope you can help me.

Currently I am using virtual tapes and after a period of time I would 
like to send those backups to a LTO Library Tape Unit to take away to a 
vault our backups.


Is it possible? if yes, how can I send to the library tape the backups 
that I have in virtual tapes? And I have several configurations.


The stupid way is make an Amanda backup of the vtapes directories.
This works, and you data is indeed safe on the tape for offsite storage
but restoring from those images is a two way process:
first restore the needed vtapes to disk again, together with the
index-files, log files (yes!!!), so that you use amrecover on those
restored vtapes. Then recover from these vtapes.  And while doing
this, you have to make sure that you do not overwrite or erase
any vtape/index/log from the current situation.  Not for the noobs!

There is work being done (but don't hold your breath on it) to allow
copies of images, together with the needed information like indexes
and so on, from one config to another config.  That would allow
to collect e.g. the level 0 images from a set of vtapes, and put
those on tape, while doing the bookkeeping, like indexes, log files
etc in the other config (without doing the backup again).

While that feature is not yet implemented, currently the best way
to do both:
 - daily to vtapes for fast and easy recovery,
 - weekly/montlyto tape for offsite storage (only level 0)
Implement it in two separate configurations.
I run a daily config to vtapes from mon-fri, and an archive config
that I run on saterday only to real LTO tapes.  That run starts
saterday early morning at 00:05 and ends somewhere in the afternoon.
It does only level 0 dumps.
It has these special parameters:
dumpcycle 0   # this forces level 0 always
And the global dumptype, from which all the other dumptypes inherit
their settings, has specially set:
record no   # do not interfere with the daily's
skip-incr yes   # emphasize we only want full dumps
strategy noinc  # do not even run estimates for incr. level
(The last one, makes the estimates finish much faster, as amanda will
not generate a plan B degraded mode with incrementals, and does not
need to know the size of them.)


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Archiving with amanda

2007-11-06 Thread Mario Silva

Hi all:

Hope everyone is ok.

I got a question and hope you can help me.

Currently I am using virtual tapes and after a period of time I would 
like to send those backups to a LTO Library Tape Unit to take away to a 
vault our backups.


Is it possible? if yes, how can I send to the library tape the backups 
that I have in virtual tapes? And I have several configurations.



mario

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Re: Archiving With Amanda?

2004-08-13 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Hi, Steven,

on Freitag, 28. Mai 2004 at 16:51 you wrote to amanda-users:

SB I have some files I'd like to permanently remove from my system
SB (archiving to tape).  It would be nice to have them listed in
SB amanda's index and have amanda keep track of them for me.  Does
SB anyone know a way to do this?

Simple solution:

Do a full backup of those files to a tape in your tapecycle.

Mark it as no-reuse with

amadmin conf no-reuse TAPE-LABEL

You can browse it via amrecover, but AMANDA will not ask for that tape
again for a dump. This is a common solution for doing things like
monthly-archive-tapes or similar things.

Better solution:

Setup a config for archiving, with dumpcycle 0, record no, and put
your files onto the tapes of this config.

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Archiving With Amanda?

2004-05-28 Thread Steven Backus
I have some files I'd like to permanently remove from my system
(archiving to tape).  It would be nice to have them listed in
amanda's index and have amanda keep track of them for me.  Does
anyone know a way to do this?

Thanks,
  Steve


Re: Archiving With Amanda?

2004-05-28 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain
On Fri, 28 May 2004 at 8:51am, Steven Backus wrote

 I have some files I'd like to permanently remove from my system
 (archiving to tape).  It would be nice to have them listed in
 amanda's index and have amanda keep track of them for me.  Does
 anyone know a way to do this?

Set up a new config called (e.g.) Archive.  Set 'dumpcycle 0', tapecycle 
to something large, and, in your dumptypes, 'record no'.

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Re: Archiving With Amanda?

2004-05-28 Thread Martin Hepworth
steven
create a new backup set called 'archive', as opposed to the one you have 
now.

then run it whenever...
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Steven Backus wrote:
I have some files I'd like to permanently remove from my system
(archiving to tape).  It would be nice to have them listed in
amanda's index and have amanda keep track of them for me.  Does
anyone know a way to do this?
Thanks,
  Steve
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Re: Archiving With Amanda?

2004-05-28 Thread Paul Bijnens
Steven Backus wrote:
I have some files I'd like to permanently remove from my system
(archiving to tape).  It would be nice to have them listed in
amanda's index and have amanda keep track of them for me.  Does
anyone know a way to do this?
Mark the tape as no-reuse.  Then amanda will not recycle the
tape, but still keep track of it.
I suggest you add a special config for this, instead of the daily.
Call it archive or such.
Add record no, dumpcycle 0 and index yes to the dumptype, (and 
even skip-incr yes and strategy no-inc to speed up estimates).
record no is important to avoid messing up the daily schedule.
I suggest you use gnutar to backup; who knows what hardware you
need to restore the files to in 5 years from now.
Add the necessary entries to the disklist.
Label a tape, e.g. ARCHIVE-, or even ARCH-20040528-BigProject.
Run amdump archive.
Run amverify archive.
Run amadmin archive no-reuse ARCHIVE-.
rm -rf BigProject

It's nice to let amreport generate some Postscript labels to go with the 
tape too.

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Re: Archiving With Amanda

2004-05-28 Thread Steven Backus
Wow guys that was fast and great, you guys rock.  Thanks a lot.

Steve


Re: Archiving With Amanda?

2004-05-28 Thread Eric Siegerman
On Fri, May 28, 2004 at 08:51:49AM -0600, Steven Backus wrote:
 I have some files I'd like to permanently remove from my system
 (archiving to tape).

One point in addition to what everyone else has said:  it would
be wise to make at least two copies of the archive tape(s).
Media has a nasty habit of going bad over time.

When I had to archive and delete some data, this describes how I
made duplicates of the archive tapes:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amanda-users/message/49373

(Simply amdumping twice would not make *identical* copies, since
the first run would change the files' last-access timestamps, if
nothing else.)

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Re: Archiving With Amanda?

2004-05-28 Thread David Wolfskill
On Fri, May 28, 2004 at 03:03:42PM -0400, Eric Siegerman wrote:

(Simply amdumping twice would not make *identical* copies, since
the first run would change the files' last-access timestamps, if
nothing else.)

Changing the last-access time of a file is only an issue for mechanisms
that open the files in question.  For example, tar opens (individual)
files that it reads.  On the other hand, {,ufs}dump does not:  the thing
it opens is a file system, so it does not change inode contents at all.

That said, there exist other reasons the product of another backup
process is unlikely to be an identical copy of the first.

IIRC, someone posted a note about how he ran an amdump, and as chunks
were written to the holding disk (well, before the chunks were taped 
unlinked), he made another link to each file, so after the first taping,
the files in the holding disk were still there, and an amflush run created
another tape with the same data.

Peace,
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