Re: Closed list

2003-11-17 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 at 1:11pm, Dave Ewart wrote

> On Monday, 17.11.2003 at 07:30 -0500, Todd Kover wrote:
> 
> > Until I can get a better solution in place for filtering out
> > irrelevent mail, both amanda-users and amanda-hackers are now closed
> > for posting to non-subscribers.  At some point, this will change, but
> > it will coincide with some better filtering software.
> 
> What are the reasons for not *keeping* them as closed lists?

Don't people ever read archives?  This discussion has happened at least 3 
times in the last year.  There are any number of reasons to have an open 
list, e.g. access for those on the road out of contact with their usual 
(subscribed) address.

Personally, I'm a bit saddened to see the list closed, and look forward to 
seeing it open again.  IMHO, the worst problem is not the open list -- 
it's the fact that the stupid virus scan programs send out any email *at 
all*.  With almost all viruses these days forging their headers, there is 
absolutely No Point Whatsoever in notifying the From: address that it 
"sent out a virus".  You'd think this would be obvious by now.

-- 
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University



Re: Closed list

2003-11-17 Thread Todd Kover

 > > Until I can get a better solution in place for filtering out
 > > irrelevent mail, both amanda-users and amanda-hackers are now closed
 > > for posting to non-subscribers.  At some point, this will change, but
 > > it will coincide with some better filtering software.
 > 
 > What are the reasons for not *keeping* them as closed lists?

The answer to this should be found in the archives, but a large
percentage of posts come from non-members. (at least for amanda-users.
This is less so for amanda-hackers).

Since that's where people are directed for help, this is not really
surprising.

Beyond that, if there's a noticable increase in maintainer mail from
people who have trouble posting, this is another motivater. (I'm not
sure if that will be the case, but based on what I get now, I wouldn't
be the least bit surprised if it picks up).

As I said before, please direct followups to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There's no point in cluttering the list up with off-topic traffic.

-Todd


Re: Closed list

2003-11-17 Thread Dave Ewart
On Monday, 17.11.2003 at 07:30 -0500, Todd Kover wrote:

> Until I can get a better solution in place for filtering out
> irrelevent mail, both amanda-users and amanda-hackers are now closed
> for posting to non-subscribers.  At some point, this will change, but
> it will coincide with some better filtering software.

What are the reasons for not *keeping* them as closed lists?

Dave.
-- 
Dave Ewart
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Computing Manager, Epidemiology Unit, Oxford
Cancer Research UK
PGP: CC70 1883 BD92 E665 B840 118B 6E94 2CFD 694D E370



Closed list

2003-11-17 Thread Todd Kover

The s/n ratio is getting too high with spam/virus reports and all that.
(particularly on amanda-users).

Until I can get a better solution in place for filtering out irrelevent
mail, both amanda-users and amanda-hackers are now closed for posting to
non-subscribers.  At some point, this will change, but it will coincide
with some better filtering software.

You MUST send mail from the address you are subscribed with.

Please send any comments/questions/concerns to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
rather than clutter up the list itself.

-Todd
(amanda-core and list maintainer).