Holding disk size question

2005-08-27 Thread Marcus
In amanda.conf it says 
"If a dump is too big to fit on the holding disk than
it will be written directly to tape."

I'm hoping to write 200g at a time to DLT, and would
like to stream it if possible. Does that mean I need
200g of holding disk? I scrounged up 20g, but another
180g doesn't look likely.

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Re: Holding disk size question

2005-08-27 Thread Mitch Collinsworth


On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, Marcus wrote:


In amanda.conf it says
"If a dump is too big to fit on the holding disk than
it will be written directly to tape."

I'm hoping to write 200g at a time to DLT, and would
like to stream it if possible. Does that mean I need
200g of holding disk?


Yep.

I scrounged up 20g, but another

180g doesn't look likely.


Huh?  Disks are dirt cheap these days.  Look at this one:

http://www.newegg.com/product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144309&CMP=OTC-Froogle&ATT=Western+Digital+Caviar+SE+WD2500JB+250GB+7200+RPM+IDE+Ultra+ATA100+Hard+Drive

250 GB for $110.  That's nothing compared to what you'll be spending on
a rack of tapes, and what you probably already paid for the DLT drive.

-Mitch


Re: Holding disk size question

2005-08-27 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Sat, Aug 27, 2005 at 09:49:11AM -0700, Marcus wrote:
> In amanda.conf it says 
> "If a dump is too big to fit on the holding disk than
> it will be written directly to tape."
> 
> I'm hoping to write 200g at a time to DLT, and would
> like to stream it if possible. Does that mean I need
> 200g of holding disk? I scrounged up 20g, but another
> 180g doesn't look likely.

Is your "200g" all for single DLE?

Except for direct to tape, the image of a DLE dump is not
taped until the entire image is collected.

That passage should be understood as "if the image (possibly
compressed with gzip) of any DLE is estimated as too large
to fit the currently available holding disk space" then it
has to go directly to tape.

Given that the images must be collected somewhere before taping
(or go directly to tape) where other than the holding disk
would be possible?  Rhetorical, no response needed :)

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Re: Holding disk size question

2005-08-29 Thread Greg Troxel
Marcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> In amanda.conf it says 
> "If a dump is too big to fit on the holding disk than
> it will be written directly to tape."
> 
> I'm hoping to write 200g at a time to DLT, and would
> like to stream it if possible. Does that mean I need
> 200g of holding disk? I scrounged up 20g, but another
> 180g doesn't look likely.

As others pointed out, it's about the max size of single dump.
My experience (with DDS - which is less reliable than DLT, and is
really unreliable if not streamed) is that I want holding disk on the
order of twice the tape, so that I can run backups without tape and
then flush if the tape isn't changed.   If you are backing up a single
200G partition, maybe it's ok not to use a holding disk - if the DLT
is happy with start/stop.  But if you have 10 20G partitions, with a
100G or so holding disk you'd be able to do 5 in parallel and then
stream them, making the backups run much faster.


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Greg Troxel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>