Re: Keeping backups on holding disk after writing to tape

2005-05-11 Thread Paul Bijnens
Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
On Tue, 10 May 2005, Brian Cuttler wrote:
It sounds like a good feature - if you have enough holding area
you could even hold files for a configurable number of days.
You'll need a way to differentiate held files from ones that didn't
properly flush though, perhaps moving to a subdirectory of the
holding area, MMDD-HELD or modifying the file name somehow.

Would it be possible to replace taper by a wrapper that uses `cp -l' to create
a hardlinked copy of the backup data first?
It's more complicated than that, because the header of a 
file-in-holdingdisk is different than that from a file on (v)tape.
Moreover, holdingdisk files could be chunked, while (v)tape images
are not.  (Even when using the Tape-chunking patches currently in
beta, the header are different, and the tape-chunks could be different
size.)

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Keeping backups on holding disk after writing to tape

2005-05-10 Thread SND

Hi all,

i want the backed up files from a nightly amdump-run to remain on the
holding disk (after they were successfully written to tape!) at least for
one day. So it would be possible to do faster and more comfortable restores
the next day.

Is there an option to acomplish that? And if there is one, is it possible to
force amanda to remove that data after a defined period of time?


Many thanks in advance and best regards,

Christoph



Re: Keeping backups on holding disk after writing to tape

2005-05-10 Thread Andreas Sundstrom
SND wrote:
Hi all,
i want the backed up files from a nightly amdump-run to remain on the
holding disk (after they were successfully written to tape!) at least for
one day. So it would be possible to do faster and more comfortable restores
the next day.
Is there an option to acomplish that? And if there is one, is it possible to
force amanda to remove that data after a defined period of time?
Many thanks in advance and best regards,
Not that I know the answer, but when I think about it I totally agree 
with this being a great function. I would immediatly configure my system 
to leave the last nights backups on disk until the next job starts, then 
it could purge yesterdays data if it was successfully written to tape.

/Andreas


Re: Keeping backups on holding disk after writing to tape

2005-05-10 Thread Brian Cuttler

It sounds like a good feature - if you have enough holding area
you could even hold files for a configurable number of days.

You'll need a way to differentiate held files from ones that didn't
properly flush though, perhaps moving to a subdirectory of the
holding area, MMDD-HELD or modifying the file name somehow.

On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 07:06:48PM +0200, Andreas Sundstrom wrote:
 SND wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  i want the backed up files from a nightly amdump-run to remain on the
  holding disk (after they were successfully written to tape!) at least for
  one day. So it would be possible to do faster and more comfortable restores
  the next day.
  
  Is there an option to acomplish that? And if there is one, is it possible to
  force amanda to remove that data after a defined period of time?
  
  
  Many thanks in advance and best regards,
 
 Not that I know the answer, but when I think about it I totally agree 
 with this being a great function. I would immediatly configure my system 
 to leave the last nights backups on disk until the next job starts, then 
 it could purge yesterdays data if it was successfully written to tape.
 
 /Andreas
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Re: Keeping backups on holding disk after writing to tape

2005-05-10 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Tue, 10 May 2005, Brian Cuttler wrote:
 It sounds like a good feature - if you have enough holding area
 you could even hold files for a configurable number of days.
 
 You'll need a way to differentiate held files from ones that didn't
 properly flush though, perhaps moving to a subdirectory of the
 holding area, MMDD-HELD or modifying the file name somehow.

Would it be possible to replace taper by a wrapper that uses `cp -l' to create
a hardlinked copy of the backup data first?

 On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 07:06:48PM +0200, Andreas Sundstrom wrote:
  SND wrote:
   i want the backed up files from a nightly amdump-run to remain on the
   holding disk (after they were successfully written to tape!) at least for
   one day. So it would be possible to do faster and more comfortable 
   restores
   the next day.
   
   Is there an option to acomplish that? And if there is one, is it possible 
   to
   force amanda to remove that data after a defined period of time?
   
   
   Many thanks in advance and best regards,
  
  Not that I know the answer, but when I think about it I totally agree 
  with this being a great function. I would immediatly configure my system 
  to leave the last nights backups on disk until the next job starts, then 
  it could purge yesterdays data if it was successfully written to tape.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

Geert

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Re: Keeping backups on holding disk after writing to tape

2005-05-10 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 11:05:14AM +0200, SND wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 i want the backed up files from a nightly amdump-run to remain on the
 holding disk (after they were successfully written to tape!) at least for
 one day. So it would be possible to do faster and more comfortable restores
 the next day.
 
 Is there an option to acomplish that? And if there is one, is it possible to
 force amanda to remove that data after a defined period of time?
 
 
 Many thanks in advance and best regards,
 
I don't know if anyone has ever tried a combination of real and
virtual tapes in a RAIT mirror config.  One drive could be
your tape, the other could be a disk-based one.  I've always
felt this could be an interesting solution to lots of arrangements.
Off-site tapes for archive, on-site vtapes for fast and easy restore.

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