LTO-2 - Tape Type

2005-06-29 Thread Tom Brown

Anyone got a tape type for an LTO-2 please?

thanks


R: LTO-2 - Tape Type

2005-06-29 Thread Montagni, Giovanni
just run amtapetype command and you will get tape type definition to use in 
your amanda.conf configuration file...

Giovanni

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Oggetto: LTO-2 - Tape Type


Anyone got a tape type for an LTO-2 please?

thanks



Re: R: LTO-2 - Tape Type

2005-06-29 Thread Tom Brown
Yes i know - but rather than wait all that time i wondered if anyone 
allready had one to hand.



just run amtapetype command and you will get tape type definition to use in 
your amanda.conf configuration file...

Giovanni

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Oggetto: LTO-2 - Tape Type


Anyone got a tape type for an LTO-2 please?

thanks




Re: R: LTO-2 - Tape Type

2005-06-29 Thread Paul Bijnens

Tom Brown wrote:
Yes i know - but rather than wait all that time i wondered if anyone 
allready had one to hand.


It takes about 4-7 hours, assuming you give a good '-e XXXg' value
to amtapetype.


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Re: R: LTO-2 - Tape Type

2005-06-29 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger

Paul Bijnens wrote:

Tom Brown wrote:

Yes i know - but rather than wait all that time i wondered if anyone 
allready had one to hand.


It takes about 4-7 hours, assuming you give a good '-e XXXg' value
to amtapetype.


And about 1-2 minutes to post the result to amanda-users, for others to 
find ;)


Maybe someone is motivated to grep for all those tapetypes out there and 
collect them all in one big tapetype-list?


As I am thinking about splitting the tapetypes off from amanda.conf it 
might me a good chance to start building a new collection ...


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Re: R: LTO-2 - Tape Type

2005-06-29 Thread Bert_De_Ridder

Is this a request  Send
me your tape-types everyone ?

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Paul Bijnens wrote:
 Tom Brown wrote:
 
 Yes i know - but rather than wait all that time i wondered if
anyone 
 allready had one to hand.
 
 It takes about 4-7 hours, assuming you give a good '-e XXXg' value
 to amtapetype.

And about 1-2 minutes to post the result to amanda-users, for others to

find ;)

Maybe someone is motivated to grep for all those tapetypes out there and

collect them all in one big tapetype-list?

As I am thinking about splitting the tapetypes off from amanda.conf it

might me a good chance to start building a new collection ...

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Re: R: LTO-2 - Tape Type

2005-06-29 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger

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Is this a request   Send me your tape-types everyone ?


Hey, you seem to read minds ...

Not yet, please, I am thinking about a proper way to collect things.
How should I decide which HP-DDS3 is the one to choose ...?

There should be some defined email-subject as well as a kind of template:

Sender: Name
Senderaddress: email
Source: generated w/ amtapetype OR from the FOM OR ...
Manufacturer of Device: HP
Type of Device: C1537A | ...
Media: DDS | DLT | ...
tapetype-definition:

Any more suggestions for requested infos? Think about how you would look 
for a tapetype ...


The information should get in as formatted as possible, so I can take it 
and convert|handle it with scripts or something. This could get into 
that new file as well as a tapetype-db on amanda.org.


BUT PLEASE DON'T SEND ANYTHING YET, let's first discuss the formal 
issues, I do NOT want to drown in tapetypes, I have enough work already ;)


Thanks, Stefan.

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Re: R: LTO-2 - Tape Type

2005-06-29 Thread Alexander Jolk

Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
And about 1-2 minutes to post the result to amanda-users, for others to 
find ;)


Maybe someone is motivated to grep for all those tapetypes out there and 
collect them all in one big tapetype-list?
You mean something like all the tapetypes on the FAQ-O-Matic? 
http://www.amanda.org/cgi-bin/fom?


There are lots of tapetypes, among them a few LTO-2 tapetypes.

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Re: R: LTO-2 - Tape Type

2005-06-29 Thread Joerg Knobloch
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Yep, got one.

Try this:

define tapetype DELL-PV-122T-LTO2 {
comment for DELL Ultrium2 tapes
length 199680 mbytes
filemark 0 kbytes
speed 31076 kps
}

Hope that helpsJoerg


Tom Brown wrote:
 Yes i know - but rather than wait all that time i wondered if anyone
 allready had one to hand.

 just run amtapetype command and you will get tape type definition to
 use in your amanda.conf configuration file...

 Giovanni

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Re: R: LTO-2 - Tape Type

2005-06-29 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 10:20:23AM +0100, Tom Brown wrote:
 Yes i know - but rather than wait all that time i wondered if anyone 
 allready had one to hand.
 
 just run amtapetype command and you will get tape type definition to use 
 in your amanda.conf configuration file...
 
 Giovanni
 
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 Inviato: mercoledì 29 giugno 2005 10.25
 A: amanda-users
 Oggetto: LTO-2 - Tape Type
 
 
 Anyone got a tape type for an LTO-2 please?


Sure, a generic one:

define tapetype YOUR_CHOICE_OF_NAME {

comment if you want any

length   #### native (not compressed) capacity minus
# a couple percent for marketing hype
# (units of mbyte or gbyte)

filemark #### zero to 0.05% of above number
# it has relatively little effect
# (units of kbyte or mbyte)
}



General question -- has anyone ever simply used the native capacity
and a filemark of zero AND been bitten by amanda because of it?

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Re: R: LTO-2 - Tape Type

2005-06-29 Thread Frank Smith
--On Wednesday, June 29, 2005 09:35:39 -0400 Jon LaBadie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:


 
 General question -- has anyone ever simply used the native capacity
 and a filemark of zero AND been bitten by amanda because of it?
 

Define 'bitten'.  On my first attempt at using amtapetype years ago, it
took forever to run (either the estimate size parameter didn't exist at
the time or I overlooked it while trying to grasp all of Amanda at once).

Since then I've just used the native size, and tweaked it down some if
runs unexpectedly hit EOT (although there are occaisional tapes that 
are slightly shorter than normal).  Eventually you gom up with a length
that works 99.9% of the time.

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Re: R: LTO-2 - Tape Type

2005-06-29 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger

Alexander Jolk wrote:

Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:

And about 1-2 minutes to post the result to amanda-users, for others 
to find ;)


Maybe someone is motivated to grep for all those tapetypes out there 
and collect them all in one big tapetype-list?


You mean something like all the tapetypes on the FAQ-O-Matic? 
http://www.amanda.org/cgi-bin/fom?


Yes, something like that could be done in a bit more organized way.

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Re: R: LTO-2 - Tape Type

2005-06-29 Thread Graeme Humphries
On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 12:45 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
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 There should be some defined email-subject as well as a kind of template:
 
 Sender: Name
 Senderaddress: email
 Source: generated w/ amtapetype OR from the FOM OR ...
 Manufacturer of Device: HP
 Type of Device: C1537A | ...
 Media: DDS | DLT | ...
 tapetype-definition:
 
 Any more suggestions for requested infos? Think about how you would look 
 for a tapetype ...

I'm assuming the manufacturer is the tape drive manufacturer? In this
case, I'd also include the media manufacturer, as I imagine there's some
amount of variance between media made by one company or another.



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