Multiple tape sizes

2002-10-21 Thread Adam D. Read
Presently, I inherited a VXA-1 rakpak and an assortment of tapes.  I 
have V6, V10, and V17 tapes.  Besides under using the v10 and v17, is 
there any other way to fit different tape capacities into amanda scheduling?

Thanks,
Adam Read
LocalNet Corp.



Re: Multiple tape sizes

2002-10-21 Thread Frank Smith
Depending on how many of each you have, you could make a separate config for
each. Or possibly just use them for archives.  I think it would be impossible
for planner to level out daily runs if you didn't know what size tapes were
going to appear.
  One other option would be to change to your longest tapelength and increase
runtapes, letting Amanda hit EOM  on the shorter tapes and just starting again
on the next tape.  If your DLEs are large then this could waste a fair amount
of tape and time.

Frank

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Presently, I inherited a VXA-1 rakpak and an assortment of tapes.  I have V6, V10, and V17 tapes.  Besides under using the v10 and v17, is there any other way to fit different tape capacities into amanda scheduling?

Thanks,
Adam Read
LocalNet Corp.




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Using Multiple Tape Sizes

2002-05-02 Thread Brook Hurd

We currently use 20 8 gig tapes for our backup in
amanda.  We have obtained some 20 gig tapes and we
would like to add these to the backup schedule.  Do we
need to replace the 8 gig tapes with the 20's or can
we intermix them?

Thanks,

Brook





Re: Using Multiple Tape Sizes

2002-05-02 Thread Don Potter

I would be willing to bet that you could use..them but since the config 
specifies the tape size, you would only be using the limits of the 
previous size.  I would say add the tapes in your rotation and adjust 
your tape size to reflect the new tapes.  And remove the the 8GB tapes 
from your rotation.

My thoughts don't reflect the ideas of a rationale mind

Brook Hurd wrote:

 We currently use 20 8 gig tapes for our backup in
 amanda.  We have obtained some 20 gig tapes and we
 would like to add these to the backup schedule.  Do we
 need to replace the 8 gig tapes with the 20's or can
 we intermix them?

 Thanks,

 Brook


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Re: Using Multiple Tape Sizes

2002-05-02 Thread Chris Marble

Brook Hurd wrote:
 
 We currently use 20 8 gig tapes for our backup in
 amanda.  We have obtained some 20 gig tapes and we
 would like to add these to the backup schedule.  Do we
 need to replace the 8 gig tapes with the 20's or can
 we intermix them?

You could set up a seperate configuration to use the 20Gb tapes.
Set record=no and you could set a real short dumpcycle so Amanda would
try and fit as many full backups as possible on the new tapes.
The reason for the record=no is to not mess anything up on the
existing backup configuration.
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Re: Using Multiple Tape Sizes

2002-05-02 Thread Jon LaBadie

On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 12:36:12PM -0400, Brook Hurd wrote:
 We currently use 20 8 gig tapes for our backup in
 amanda.  We have obtained some 20 gig tapes and we
 would like to add these to the backup schedule.  Do we
 need to replace the 8 gig tapes with the 20's or can
 we intermix them?
 

I think there is only one place to specify a tape size.
What size would you specify?  Maybe if you specify the
20GB size, and runtapes  1, failed writes would go to
the next, hopefully larger, tape.

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Re: Using Multiple Tape Sizes

2002-05-02 Thread Brandon D. Valentine

On Thu, 2 May 2002, Don Potter wrote:

I would be willing to bet that you could use..them but since the config
specifies the tape size, you would only be using the limits of the
previous size.  I would say add the tapes in your rotation and adjust
your tape size to reflect the new tapes.  And remove the the 8GB tapes
from your rotation.

As Don says, you're limited to the size of the lowest capacity tape in
the cycle.  But if you've got enough tapes to replace the entire cycle
this procedure might work well:

1) Use 'amlabel -f' to give the 20GB tapes the same labels as the old
8GB ones.
2) Switch tapetype in amanda.conf over to a 20GB capacity.
3) Start the next day by backing up to the tape amanda asks for but from
the 20GB instead of 8GB tapes.
4) Keep your 8GB tapes around until the end of the backup cycle.  Should
you be asked in the middle of the cycle to restore something you'll need
to have the previous cycle's worth of tapes to feed to amrecover.
5) You should have succesfully slipped a new tape cycle in.

What you want to avoid is using 'amrmtape' on your 8GB tapes because as
soon as you do that you'll no longer be able to restore off of them.

If you don't yet have enough 20GB tapes to replace your entire 8GB cycle
you might want to think about doing the above but without step 2.  You
can use just the first 8GB of the 20GB tape without any trouble.  Then
if you later on got the money to replace the rest of the 8GB tapes you
could cycle them in and switch over to a 20GB tapetype.

Anyone out there see a problem with this theory?

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