Not again !!!

2003-08-14 Thread Kevin Passey



Is there anyway of 
filtering out attachments on this list?
 
Theses bloody 
viruses are becoming a pain..
 
Regards
Kevin 
 


Re: Not again !!!

2003-08-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 14:36, barryc wrote:
From: Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>>Remember Kevin, its only the winderz people it bothers.
>
>Not true.
>Windows users are the only ones with anything to fear from these
> messages. It bothers (read: annoys) most of us.
>
>NOTE: For the purpose of this correspondance, "most" is defined as
> 'Some number of amanda-users subscribers, greater than or equal to
> two.'

The definition of bother is relative I guess.

Well, with the delete button only centimeters away, its not a bother 
to me.  Now IF I was running winderz (I do not have a copy on the 
property) and got myself a viri, then that would 'bother' me.

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Re: Not again !!!

2003-08-14 Thread Nicolas Ecarnot
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 à 02:23:30PM -0500, Rebecca Pakish Crum wrote:
> those who are bothered to be unprepared. Get a spam server...deal with
> it, move on. Or maybe those complaining would like to contribute and
> maintain a spam/virus server for the list. This is the 4th or 5th time
> this year this subject has gone on for far too long. Amanda is free, the
> knowledge everyone gains and contributes her is free, if the price is to
> be 'bothered' with extra emails, then pay for some other backup utility
> and you won't be bothered again.

Excuse me but I don't really understand where is the *need* of accepting 
attachements in a mailing list read by amanda sysadmins, people that use
to deal with **TEXT** config files all day long ?

There is **absolutly** no need to accept the attachements.
If anyone would ever need a binary or a picture of my dog, I would post
an URL. So simple !

That would avoid :
- the viruses
- the too many automatic answers coming from antivirus software
- the network load
- the long and repeating threads

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Re: Not again !!!

2003-08-14 Thread Steve Lane


  On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 02:23:30PM -0500, Rebecca Pakish Crum wrote:
  ---cut---
  > It amazes me how often these two running arguments are repeatedly
  > debated...using localhost and spam to the amanda list. For the love of
  > pete...how many sys admins does it take to beat the dead horse? (I
  > suppose I am now guilty as well by even responding to the tirades)
  
  
Q:  How many IBM CPUs does it take to do a logical right shift?
A:  33:  1 to hold the bits and 32 to push the register. 
  
  
  
Q:  How many IBM CPUs does it take to execute a job?
A:  Four:  three to hold it down, and one to pour Drano down its throat 
and then rip its head off.
(Thanks to Harlan Ellison for the lovely Drano imagery! :) 
  
  
  > Maybe there needs to be something addressed to the newbie's when they
  > register with amanda.org as a part of the welcome email that says "You
  > are responsible for your own network...the list is open to everyone and
  > everything, please don't complain about spam, viruses, etc." I find
  > those who are bothered to be unprepared. Get a spam server...deal with
  > it, move on. Or maybe those complaining would like to contribute and
  > maintain a spam/virus server for the list. This is the 4th or 5th time
  > this year this subject has gone on for far too long. Amanda is free, the
  > knowledge everyone gains and contributes her is free, if the price is to
  > be 'bothered' with extra emails, then pay for some other backup utility
  > and you won't be bothered again.
  
  Amen.
  
  On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 02:39:17PM -0500, Michael D. Schleif wrote:
  ---cut---
  > Yes, agreed; but, are the plethora of insipid and specious virus-found
  > alarms really necessary (read: on-topic) on this -- or any -- mailing list?
  
  No.



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Re: Not again !!!

2003-08-14 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 02:39:17PM -0500, Michael D. Schleif wrote:
> 
> Yes, agreed; but, are the plethora of insipid and specious virus-found
> alarms really necessary (read: on-topic) on this -- or any -- mailing list?

Yes, absolutely.

Otherwise I would not know a virus had been posted

   :))

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Re: Not again !!!

2003-08-14 Thread Michael D. Schleif
Also sprach Jon LaBadie (Wed 06 Aug 02003 at 04:59:41PM -0400):
> On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 02:39:17PM -0500, Michael D. Schleif wrote:
> > 
> > Yes, agreed; but, are the plethora of insipid and specious virus-found
> > alarms really necessary (read: on-topic) on this -- or any -- mailing list?
> 
> Yes, absolutely.
> 
> Otherwise I would not know a virus had been posted
> 
>:))

O, yeah, I dint think o dat . . .

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Re: Not again !!!

2003-08-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 11:06, Kevin Passey wrote:
>Is there anyway of filtering out attachments on this list?
>
>Theses bloody viruses are becoming a pain..
>
>Regards
>
>Kevin

Remember Kevin, its only the winderz people it bothers.

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Re: Not again !!!

2003-08-07 Thread Eric Siegerman
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 08:19:15AM +0200, Nicolas Ecarnot wrote:
> There is **absolutly** no need to accept the attachements.
> If anyone would ever need a binary or a picture of my dog, I would post
> an URL. So simple !

How about source patches?  If you include them in-line, instead
of attaching them, their whitespace can get mangled (tabs turned
into spaces, lines broken in the middle), and that'll keep them
from applying cleanly.  Admittedly, this might be more an issue
over on amanda-hackers (in fact I learned about this from
one-time Amanda maintainer Alexandre Oliva, who refused to accept
patches *unless* they were sent as attachments).

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RE: Not again !!!

2003-08-07 Thread Rebecca Pakish Crum
> On Wednesday 06 August 2003 14:36, barryc wrote:
> From: Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >>Remember Kevin, its only the winderz people it bothers.
> >
> >Not true.
> >Windows users are the only ones with anything to fear from these  
> >messages. It bothers (read: annoys) most of us.
> >
> >NOTE: For the purpose of this correspondance, "most" is defined as  
> >'Some number of amanda-users subscribers, greater than or equal to  
> >two.'
> 
> The definition of bother is relative I guess.
> 
> Well, with the delete button only centimeters away, its not a bother 
> to me.  Now IF I was running winderz (I do not have a copy on the 
> property) and got myself a viri, then that would 'bother' me.

It amazes me how often these two running arguments are repeatedly
debated...using localhost and spam to the amanda list. For the love of
pete...how many sys admins does it take to beat the dead horse? (I
suppose I am now guilty as well by even responding to the tirades)

Maybe there needs to be something addressed to the newbie's when they
register with amanda.org as a part of the welcome email that says "You
are responsible for your own network...the list is open to everyone and
everything, please don't complain about spam, viruses, etc." I find
those who are bothered to be unprepared. Get a spam server...deal with
it, move on. Or maybe those complaining would like to contribute and
maintain a spam/virus server for the list. This is the 4th or 5th time
this year this subject has gone on for far too long. Amanda is free, the
knowledge everyone gains and contributes her is free, if the price is to
be 'bothered' with extra emails, then pay for some other backup utility
and you won't be bothered again.




Re: Not again !!!

2003-08-06 Thread barryc
>From: Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Remember Kevin, its only the winderz people it bothers.
>

Not true.
Windows users are the only ones with anything to fear from these messages.
It bothers (read: annoys) most of us.

NOTE: For the purpose of this correspondance, "most" is defined as 'Some number 
of amanda-users subscribers, greater than or equal to two.'



Re: Not again !!!

2003-08-06 Thread Michael D. Schleif
Also sprach Rebecca Pakish Crum (Wed 06 Aug 02003 at 02:23:30PM -0500):
> 


> It amazes me how often these two running arguments are repeatedly
> debated...using localhost and spam to the amanda list. For the love of
> pete...how many sys admins does it take to beat the dead horse? (I
> suppose I am now guilty as well by even responding to the tirades)
> 
> Maybe there needs to be something addressed to the newbie's when they
> register with amanda.org as a part of the welcome email that says "You
> are responsible for your own network...the list is open to everyone and
> everything, please don't complain about spam, viruses, etc." I find
> those who are bothered to be unprepared. Get a spam server...deal with
> it, move on. Or maybe those complaining would like to contribute and
> maintain a spam/virus server for the list. This is the 4th or 5th time
> this year this subject has gone on for far too long. Amanda is free, the
> knowledge everyone gains and contributes her is free, if the price is to
> be 'bothered' with extra emails, then pay for some other backup utility
> and you won't be bothered again.

Yes, agreed; but, are the plethora of insipid and specious virus-found
alarms really necessary (read: on-topic) on this -- or any -- mailing list?

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mds
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