Re: Cygwin client - advantages?

2003-03-24 Thread Christopher Odenbach

Hi,

  1. Client-side compression
  2. Better chance of backing up ACLs (using special tar)
  3. Works on machines that have all shares disabled (I have seen
  disabling shared recommended for some servers, especially SQL.)
  4. More straightforward restore
  5. Doesn't require SAMBA on AMANDA Server

 I haven't used it yet here, but I suspect another advantage not
 listed above is:

 6. Can do dumps at higher levels than 0 and 1.

This depends on the used dump tool. Up to now, the backup of windows 
shares uses the archive flag, which enables only level 0 or 1 dumps.

 Now my question: What special tar does one use to get the ACLs?

As I already mentioned on this list: The sourceforge project amanda 
win32 ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/amanda-win32/ ) brought up a 
utility called nttar.exe which is able to dump and restore files 
_with_ acls. I don't have the time (or neither the ability) to 
integrate this tool into amanda, but maybe someone else has.

Regards,

Christopher

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Re: Cygwin client - advantages?

2003-03-24 Thread rwk
 On Sun, 23 Mar 2003, Bort, Paul wrote:
 
  1. Client-side compression
  2. Better chance of backing up ACLs (using special tar)
  3. Works on machines that have all shares disabled (I have seen disabling
  shared recommended for some servers, especially SQL.)
  4. More straightforward restore
  5. Doesn't require SAMBA on AMANDA Server
 
 I haven't used it yet here, but I suspect another advantage not listed
 above is:
 
 6. Can do dumps at higher levels than 0 and 1.
 
 Now my question: What special tar does one use to get the ACLs?

Thanks!

What is an ACL?


Re: Cygwin client - advantages?

2003-03-24 Thread Christopher Odenbach

Hi,

   1. Client-side compression
   2. Better chance of backing up ACLs (using special tar)
   3. Works on machines that have all shares disabled (I have seen
   disabling shared recommended for some servers, especially SQL.)
   4. More straightforward restore
   5. Doesn't require SAMBA on AMANDA Server
 
  I haven't used it yet here, but I suspect another advantage not
  listed above is:
 
  6. Can do dumps at higher levels than 0 and 1.
 
  Now my question: What special tar does one use to get the ACLs?

 Thanks!

 What is an ACL?

ACL = Access Control List

With NTFS you can set detailed access control information, such as 
readable for user x, writeable for group y, read and writeable for 
users a, b and c, executable for everyone but not for user x and so on.

With samba you can not save these ACLs - restored files only get 
default rights.

For more information about ACLs, please ask e.g. google.

Christopher


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RE: Cygwin client - advantages?

2003-03-23 Thread Bort, Paul
It has several advantages that make the installation overhead worthwhile: 

1. Client-side compression
2. Better chance of backing up ACLs (using special tar)
3. Works on machines that have all shares disabled (I have seen disabling
shared recommended for some servers, especially SQL.)
4. More straightforward restore
5. Doesn't require SAMBA on AMANDA Server

Also, I haven't tested it, but I suspect sending a tar file using the AMANDA
protocol is faster than carrying on an extended SMB conversation. 

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Can anyone tell me...

What, if any, are the advantages of running an amanda client (under
Cygwin - Windows XP) over using samba?

I understand amanda-2.4.4 will install under the Cygwin environment, but
I would like to know what makes it worth going to the trouble.

Thanks,
Dick


RE: Cygwin client - advantages?

2003-03-23 Thread Mitch Collinsworth

On Sun, 23 Mar 2003, Bort, Paul wrote:

 1. Client-side compression
 2. Better chance of backing up ACLs (using special tar)
 3. Works on machines that have all shares disabled (I have seen disabling
 shared recommended for some servers, especially SQL.)
 4. More straightforward restore
 5. Doesn't require SAMBA on AMANDA Server

I haven't used it yet here, but I suspect another advantage not listed
above is:

6. Can do dumps at higher levels than 0 and 1.

Now my question: What special tar does one use to get the ACLs?

-Mitch