Re: AW: archiving tapes?!

2005-02-02 Thread Eric Dantan Rzewnicki
On Wed, Feb 02, 2005 at 01:44:47PM +1100, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
 This one time, at band camp, Paul Bijnens wrote:
 Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
 what are some good options for long term archival storage?
 Someone stole my crystal ball...
 Or did he mean amanda.conf options ?

I was inquiring of the collective experience here as to what medium is
currently most trusted for longterm archival storage of data. 

My leaning is towards the spirit of a remark by Linus (possibly
inaccurately quoted here): backups are for wimps. real men upload there
stuff to ftp and let the world mirror it.

I'm not thinking of this so much in the sense of letting anyone mirror
our data, but more in the sense of having redundant archives in 
geographically diverse locations that are updated and accessed over the
net. I ask here about preferred mediums because I wonder if the way I'm
leaning is perhaps not wise.
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Re: AW: archiving tapes?!

2005-02-01 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Paul Bijnens wrote:
Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:

what are some good options for long term archival storage?

Someone stole my crystal ball...

Or did he mean amanda.conf options ?


Re: AW: archiving tapes?!

2005-01-31 Thread Eric Dantan Rzewnicki
On Sat, Jan 29, 2005 at 06:25:20PM +0100, Paul Bijnens wrote:
 Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
 what are some good options for long term archival storage?
 Someone stole my crystal ball...

ok. :)

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Re: AW: archiving tapes?!

2005-01-31 Thread Eric Siegerman
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 01:59:32PM -0500, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
 what are some good options for long term archival storage?

There's only one: redundancy!

I don't know the answer to the question you're actually asking.
All the media I know of are either not great under typical,
less-than-ideal conditions (magnetic) or too new for there to be
much real-world data (optical) -- not that I've made much of a
study of it recently, I admit.

But whatever technology(ies?) you choose, making multiple copies
is excellent insurance.

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Re: AW: archiving tapes?!

2005-01-29 Thread Paul Bijnens
Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
what are some good options for long term archival storage?
Someone stole my crystal ball...
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Re: AW: archiving tapes?!

2005-01-28 Thread Paul Bijnens
Sebastian Kösters wrote:
Ok. I must label every tape to get a working index.
But I only have DailySet100 up to DailySet199. What happened when I'am at
199 and want to label the next tape? I think I have to start at DailySet100
again but what happened with the index/tape that was DailySet100 before?
Change/extend the regexpr for labelstr in amanda.conf.  Mine is:
labelstr ARCHIVE-[0-9][0-9][0-9]
That would count up to 999 tapes (I started at 001).  If necessary
make it four digits.
I bet you won't even have a suitable tapedrive that can read your
tapes 20 years from now (doing 50 tapes each year).
If it is really for permanent archiving, you can label the tapes
like: ARCH-2005-JAN-30 (there is no requirement that labels
must follow numerically or alphabetically):
labelstr  ARCH-[0-9][0-9][0-9]-[A-Z][A-Z][A-Z]-[0-9][0-9]
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