Re: Rewind before ejecting?

2003-09-25 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 11:57:35AM -0400, M3 Freak wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have what may seem like a silly questions, but let me assure you, I
 have absolutely no idea how tape backups work.  I've only just figured
 out why my RH9 system wasn't seeing the tape drive.  Configuring amanda
 and administering it is a whole different thing!
 
 Anyway, my question is basic.  Last night I manually ran amdump, and
 it completed successfully.  I read the email amanda sent me, and it's
 now waiting for a new tape.  I know that I have to put in the new
 tape, label it, and then set up cron to run automatically tonight. 
 However, before I put in the new tape, should I just issue an eject
 command to the drive to spit the tape out, or do I have to rewind it
 before ejecting it?  
 
 I haven't used a tape backup system before, so I don't know what the
 consequences are of rewinding tapes or not before ejecting them.  I
 would very much appreciate suggestions/advice on this.

To my relatively limited knowledge,
drives rewind the tape before ejecting.

OTOH I don't generally count on that and rewind myself first.

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Re: Rewind before ejecting?

2003-09-25 Thread Eric Siegerman
On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 11:57:35AM -0400, M3 Freak wrote:
 [...] should I just issue an eject
 command to the drive to spit the tape out, or do I have to rewind it
 before ejecting it?  

It depends on the tape technology, I think.  DAT tapes rewind on
their own.  Some other kinds might not (though I don't really
know).  What kind of tape drive do you have?

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Re: Rewind before ejecting?

2003-09-25 Thread Deb Baddorf
At 11:57 AM 9/25/2003 -0400, M3 Freak wrote:
Hello,

I have what may seem like a silly questions, but let me assure you, I have 
absolutely no idea how tape backups work.  I've only just figured out why 
my RH9 system wasn't seeing the tape drive.  Configuring amanda and 
administering it is a whole different thing!

Anyway, my question is basic.  Last night I manually ran amdump, and it 
completed successfully.  I read the email amanda sent me, and it's now 
waiting for a new tape.  I know that I have to put in the new tape, 
label it, and then set up cron to run automatically tonight.  However, 
before I put in the new tape, should I just issue an eject command to 
the drive to spit the tape out, or do I have to rewind it before ejecting it?

I haven't used a tape backup system before, so I don't know what the 
consequences are of rewinding tapes or not before ejecting them.  I would 
very much appreciate suggestions/advice on this.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Kanwar
All tapes drives that I know of  will rewind the tape if you merely
issue an eject  or offline command.   Only an audio cassette
unit (ok,  or a VCR)   will ever hand you a tape in a half-way state.
So . commanding  rewind  and then  eject  is redundant.
But certainly not harmful!
Deb Baddorf

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Re: Rewind before ejecting?

2003-09-25 Thread Chris Johnson
Some tape drives must be taken off line before they will eject. my adic 
fastor4000 is on like that. every time  I eject manually I have to issue 
the command /bin/mt -f /dev/st0 rewoffl (rewind and take off line). 
some drives don't need thins and can just be given the eject command.
good luck,
chrisj

M3 Freak wrote:

Hello,

I have what may seem like a silly questions, but let me assure you, I 
have absolutely no idea how tape backups work.  I've only just figured 
out why my RH9 system wasn't seeing the tape drive.  Configuring 
amanda and administering it is a whole different thing!

Anyway, my question is basic.  Last night I manually ran amdump, and 
it completed successfully.  I read the email amanda sent me, and it's 
now waiting for a new tape.  I know that I have to put in the new 
tape, label it, and then set up cron to run automatically tonight.  
However, before I put in the new tape, should I just issue an eject 
command to the drive to spit the tape out, or do I have to rewind it 
before ejecting it? 

I haven't used a tape backup system before, so I don't know what the 
consequences are of rewinding tapes or not before ejecting them.  I 
would very much appreciate suggestions/advice on this.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Kanwar