Re: Win32 Backup?

2003-03-06 Thread tobias . bluhm
"Steve Loughran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> One way I have done it is to use MS's backup program to backup to a
>> samba share on a freebsd box. MS backup will happily backup to a samba
>> share.  Then I just backup all that stuff using amanda.
>
>beware of backing up via NT Backup to a samba share, always verify the
>contents of the file. I ran into a problem wher it appeared to be backing 
up
>just fine, and created a huge BKF file, but it was full of zeros and
>unusable...


I've been using ntbackup to files on samba share for a number of weeks 
now, haven't seen any problems. I do have the verify flag on. Perhaps it's 
the samba version or config, or maybe networking issues?

Just a thought.

I did have to alter my original schedule/dump type in ntbackup. I was 
getting tape overruns due to that fact that amanda has no control of the 
w2k boxes schedule/dump type. It would be very cool if some smart win 
programmer could write wrappers for ntbackup.exe so that amanda could 
control it directly. Also, I copy over the ntbackup log files at the end 
of the script. Seems it can only have 10 log files at a time. Ntbackup in 
w2k is pretty useful. Although Veritas did write it for them.


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toby bluhm
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Re: Win32 Backup?

2003-03-06 Thread Steve Loughran
> One way I have done it is to use MS's backup program to backup to a
> samba share on a freebsd box. MS backup will happily backup to a samba
> share.  Then I just backup all that stuff using amanda.

beware of backing up via NT Backup to a samba share, always verify the
contents of the file. I ran into a problem wher it appeared to be backing up
just fine, and created a huge BKF file, but it was full of zeros and
unusable...

Steve



Re: Win32 Backup?

2003-03-06 Thread Anthony A. D. Talltree
I've had weird stuff happen to me when writing across 

samba mounts -- the files would quietly disappear under the Nethood
pseudo-directory, eating up disk space while being inaccessible.  Associating
the mounts with drive letters seems to avoid this.



Re: Win32 Backup?

2003-03-06 Thread Michael Perry
Anthony A. D. Talltree wrote:
I've never had to do this, but an approach that I'd probably persue
would be to use Symmantec/Norton Ghost to create occasional disk images
that would get xferred via Samba to a *ix filesystem.  I'd try real
hard to keep important data off of the M$ machine's local disks.
One way I have done it is to use MS's backup program to backup to a 
samba share on a freebsd box. MS backup will happily backup to a samba 
share.  Then I just backup all that stuff using amanda.

I've used MS backup on XP Pro and w2kpro this way and it works pretty 
well for my needs.

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Re: Win32 Backup?

2003-03-05 Thread Anthony A. D. Talltree
I've never had to do this, but an approach that I'd probably persue
would be to use Symmantec/Norton Ghost to create occasional disk images
that would get xferred via Samba to a *ix filesystem.  I'd try real
hard to keep important data off of the M$ machine's local disks.


Re: Win32 Backup?

2003-03-05 Thread philo vivero
> > I've used Amanda before in a Unix-only shop, but now am interested in
> > backing up Win32 clients.
> > 
> > I see Amanda.Org still seems to hold the official line of "use smbclient
> > to backup Win32 clients," but there's a port of Amanda client to Win32
> > at http://sourceforge.net/projects/amanda-win32 which appears to have
> > about 5-15 downloads daily for the last week or two.
> 
> I can't tell you much, but I can tell that the official 2.4.4 version 
> supports the cygwin environment.  There have been a number of messages on 
> this recently -- search the archives.

Okay, I searched the archives. There is some conjecture that the Win32
client is not too recent, but there doesn't seem to be anything
concrete.

Someone else said the 'sbmclient' method gives problems when the user
setup to do the backups on the Win32 client don't have permissions to
back up the machine.

Cygwin method requires first installing Cygwin on every client, right?
smbclient method requires only creating a user on every client. So
unless every Win32 client has Cygwin installed... would it be safe to
say that The One Right Way to do Win32 backups is:

 - Setup a local administrator on the client (say, "amanda")
 - Use smbclient at the server to backup
 - Don't use the Win32 client at SourceForge (it's out-of-date)

?

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pv




Re: Win32 Backup?

2003-03-04 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain
On 4 Mar 2003 at 10:54am, philo vivero wrote

> I've used Amanda before in a Unix-only shop, but now am interested in
> backing up Win32 clients.
> 
> I see Amanda.Org still seems to hold the official line of "use smbclient
> to backup Win32 clients," but there's a port of Amanda client to Win32
> at http://sourceforge.net/projects/amanda-win32 which appears to have
> about 5-15 downloads daily for the last week or two.
> 
> What can you tell me about the Win32 port of Amanda client software? Is
> it appropriate for backing up a heterogenous Win'95, Win'98, Win'XP,
> Win'2K network? What are the 'gotchas'?

I can't tell you much, but I can tell that the official 2.4.4 version 
supports the cygwin environment.  There have been a number of messages on 
this recently -- search the archives.

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Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University