Re: restore errors

2007-01-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb:
 Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb:
 
 googled a bit and found notes about a bug in 2.4.4, but I am unsure if I
 hit this particular one.
 
 Could anyone *please* let me know if this problem would be avoided with
 a more recent release of Amanda?

So noone knows if there are releases out there that are known to archive
defective tarballs?

IMO it would be the least to mark these releases as buggy ones, to make
clear which installations should upgrade to get valid restores again,
and which installations would just need to upgrade for new features or
something.

But it seems that this interests noone but me.

Stefan


Re: restore errors

2007-01-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 27 January 2007 09:14, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb:
 Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb:
 googled a bit and found notes about a bug in 2.4.4, but I am unsure
 if I hit this particular one.

 Could anyone *please* let me know if this problem would be avoided
 with a more recent release of Amanda?

So noone knows if there are releases out there that are known to archive
defective tarballs?

IMO it would be the least to mark these releases as buggy ones, to make
clear which installations should upgrade to get valid restores again,
and which installations would just need to upgrade for new features or
something.

But it seems that this interests noone but me.

Stefan

I believe that more of the blame for defective backups can be laid at the 
gnu.org's (miss)handling of tar than at amanda's doorstep. Amanda has 
always had the possibility that something would sneak in, and it did at 
least twice on my watch, but was fixed each time in good time, less than 
a week IIRC.

Tar on the other hand, has caused us no end of headaches and I've often 
wondered if we would be better off using star.  I think its probably very 
good code, but Jeorg Schiling(sp) is such a difficult person to deal with 
that the ever buggy tar is perceived as the better choice.

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Re: restore errors

2007-01-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Gene Heskett schrieb:

 I believe that more of the blame for defective backups can be laid at
 the gnu.org's (miss)handling of tar than at amanda's doorstep. Amanda
 has always had the possibility that something would sneak in, and it
 did at least twice on my watch, but was fixed each time in good time,
 less than a week IIRC.

I was under the impression for years now that tar 1.13.25 was known as a
release that works well with Amanda. Nothing specific with that setup,
plain Suse Linux, etc.

I don't blame Amanda for anything, I just wonder if anyone else has hit
that bug I seem to have hit, and which patch/release fixed that issue
(if it has been fixed already).

Is that issue known? Is it documented? Is it fixed already?
Jean-Louis, maybe you know best ...

IMO this is an issue that should be communicated and discussed,
regardless where the bug comes from.

 Tar on the other hand, has caused us no end of headaches and I've
 often wondered if we would be better off using star.  I think its
 probably very good code, but Jeorg Schiling(sp) is such a difficult
 person to deal with that the ever buggy tar is perceived as the
 better choice.

Agreed.

Stefan





Re: restore errors

2007-01-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 27 January 2007 13:15, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
Gene Heskett schrieb:
 I believe that more of the blame for defective backups can be laid at
 the gnu.org's (miss)handling of tar than at amanda's doorstep. Amanda
 has always had the possibility that something would sneak in, and it
 did at least twice on my watch, but was fixed each time in good time,
 less than a week IIRC.

I was under the impression for years now that tar 1.13.25 was known as a
release that works well with Amanda. Nothing specific with that setup,
plain Suse Linux, etc.

It does, but that's not the release that now comes with the various 
distros. 1.15-1 also works well, if built from the tarball, but some 
distros have backported 1.16 things and their package is then broken for 
amanda's use according to old messages here.

I don't blame Amanda for anything, I just wonder if anyone else has hit
that bug I seem to have hit, and which patch/release fixed that issue
(if it has been fixed already).

I don't recall seeing the version you were fighting with posted, did I 
miss it?  ISTR I had a 2 day problem about 90 days ago.  But don't recall 
the greasy details now.  The recent ChangeLog might have some clues.

Is that issue known? Is it documented? Is it fixed already?
Jean-Louis, maybe you know best ...

IMO this is an issue that should be communicated and discussed,
regardless where the bug comes from.

 Tar on the other hand, has caused us no end of headaches and I've
 often wondered if we would be better off using star.  I think its
 probably very good code, but Jeorg Schiling(sp) is such a difficult
 person to deal with that the ever buggy tar is perceived as the
 better choice.

Agreed.

Yes, but that still doesn't make Jeorg the least bit palatable.
As an official old fart, I can be difficult, but I can't even hold the 
candle to light his way.

Stefan

-- 
Cheers, Gene
There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order.
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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Re: restore errors

2007-01-24 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb:

 googled a bit and found notes about a bug in 2.4.4, but I am unsure if I
 hit this particular one.

Could anyone *please* let me know if this problem would be avoided with
a more recent release of Amanda?

Thank you, Stefan.