Re: Solaris ACLs

2004-03-09 Thread Martin Hepworth
Talking of snapshots, FreeBSD 5.x can do this too with the -L flag to dump.

Can someone remind me of how to generate a specific backup type (in 
amanda.conf) that passes the -L flag to dump on the remote system.

Ta

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Jon LaBadie wrote:
big snip
As Solaris also can do FS snapshots, the OP should be informed
of that feature.  Not amanda specific, but neat.
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Re: Solaris ACLs

2004-03-09 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 12:33:55AM -0500, Jon LaBadie wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 06:35:49PM -0600, Frank Smith wrote:
  Someone on the sage-members list is looking for free backup software
  that met his listed requirements, and I was about to reply with
  Amanda, but I wasn't sure about his requirement #5 (below) pertaining
  to Solaris ACLs.  Will Amanda actually do what he wants?
  

...
 
 
 
 The man page doesn't mention ACL's, but I suspect it will

That was supposed to say ufsdump man page but the
internet gremlin deleted the command name :)

 have to preserve them.  Tar/gnutar of course will not.
 However, if Shilly's 'star' can be made to work, it claims
 to preserve Solaris ACL's (and not affect atime).
 
 If ufsdump is used the normal caveats apply, exclude/include
 don't work, only entire file systems which must fit on tape, ...
 
 As Solaris also can do FS snapshots, the OP should be informed
 of that feature.  Not amanda specific, but neat.
 
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Solaris ACLs

2004-03-08 Thread Frank Smith
Someone on the sage-members list is looking for free backup software
that met his listed requirements, and I was about to reply with
Amanda, but I wasn't sure about his requirement #5 (below) pertaining
to Solaris ACLs.  Will Amanda actually do what he wants?

Thanks,
Frank


 I currently work for a large university. We currently have a
 Very Large tape library system (a walk-in model, terrabites of storage,
  hundreds of tapes, blah blah blah)
 
 We currently have robotics software (unitree) and some interesting
 home-grown custom jobbies.
 Unfortunately, they are rather ugly. So I'd like to be able to migrate our
 backups to something a little more sane, and a little more widely used.
 
 Given the amount of data, and number of hosts, and our limited funding for
 software, getting a license for veritas or legato backup software, etc.
 is going to be out of the question. So I need a free solution suggested.
 
 My ideal backup solution would handle:
 
 
 1. multiple incoming backup streams, ideally multiplexing then to a single
tape or virtual restoral device, for streaming speed purposes, etc.
 
 2a. know about interfacing with unitree directly, OR
 
 2b. be flexible about save all the data to a pseudo-'file' which is
 actually managed by HSM
 
 3. be able to handle restore requests along the lines of,
 
Give me all the files in directory X, on machine Y, at date
   YYY/MM/DD:HH/MM/SS
 
and pull in the appropriate files from the last full dump, and all
relevant incrementals.
 
And if there was a level0, level2, level3, and level4 dump, and
the most recent versions of the file(s) were on level3,
it would not have to go through the level0 and level2 dumps
to find out the data is not there.
 
 
 4. it must be able to handle Very Large Filesystems
(I'm not sure we have any terrabytes filesystems... Yet.
  But we probably will have them soon)
 
 5. It should be able to handle restoring Solaris ACLs
 
 
 
 
 It is not neccessary to have any kind of non-root-user interface.
 Restores are handled by the sysadmins only.
 
 Of all of the above, I think that everything except  #2 is mandatory.
 
 Am I dreaming, or is there anything out there for free that can actually
 handle all of this?



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Re: Solaris ACLs

2004-03-08 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 06:35:49PM -0600, Frank Smith wrote:
 Someone on the sage-members list is looking for free backup software
 that met his listed requirements, and I was about to reply with
 Amanda, but I wasn't sure about his requirement #5 (below) pertaining
 to Solaris ACLs.  Will Amanda actually do what he wants?
 
 Thanks,
 Frank
 
 
  I currently work for a large university. We currently have a
  Very Large tape library system (a walk-in model, terrabites of storage,
   hundreds of tapes, blah blah blah)
  
  We currently have robotics software (unitree) and some interesting
  home-grown custom jobbies.
  Unfortunately, they are rather ugly. So I'd like to be able to migrate our
  backups to something a little more sane, and a little more widely used.
  
  Given the amount of data, and number of hosts, and our limited funding for
  software, getting a license for veritas or legato backup software, etc.
  is going to be out of the question. So I need a free solution suggested.
  
  My ideal backup solution would handle:
  
  
  1. multiple incoming backup streams, ideally multiplexing then to a single
 tape or virtual restoral device, for streaming speed purposes, etc.
  
  2a. know about interfacing with unitree directly, OR
  
  2b. be flexible about save all the data to a pseudo-'file' which is
  actually managed by HSM
  
  3. be able to handle restore requests along the lines of,
  
 Give me all the files in directory X, on machine Y, at date
YYY/MM/DD:HH/MM/SS
  
 and pull in the appropriate files from the last full dump, and all
 relevant incrementals.
  
 And if there was a level0, level2, level3, and level4 dump, and
 the most recent versions of the file(s) were on level3,
 it would not have to go through the level0 and level2 dumps
 to find out the data is not there.
  
  
  4. it must be able to handle Very Large Filesystems
 (I'm not sure we have any terrabytes filesystems... Yet.
   But we probably will have them soon)
  
  5. It should be able to handle restoring Solaris ACLs
  
  
  
  
  It is not neccessary to have any kind of non-root-user interface.
  Restores are handled by the sysadmins only.
  
  Of all of the above, I think that everything except  #2 is mandatory.
  
  Am I dreaming, or is there anything out there for free that can actually
  handle all of this?
 
 
 



The man page doesn't mention ACL's, but I suspect it will
have to preserve them.  Tar/gnutar of course will not.
However, if Shilly's 'star' can be made to work, it claims
to preserve Solaris ACL's (and not affect atime).

If ufsdump is used the normal caveats apply, exclude/include
don't work, only entire file systems which must fit on tape, ...

As Solaris also can do FS snapshots, the OP should be informed
of that feature.  Not amanda specific, but neat.

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Jon H. LaBadie  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 JG Computing
 4455 Province Line Road(609) 252-0159
 Princeton, NJ  08540-4322  (609) 683-7220 (fax)