Re: Is GNU tar 1.13.25 still good with 2.5.0p2?

2006-08-19 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006, Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Friday 18 August 2006 11:35, Toomas Aas wrote:
 I'm planning to upgrade my Amanda server (currently 2.4.5) to 2.5.0p2.
 I'm wondering whether GNU tar 1.13.25 is still officially considered a
 good version, or is it absolutely required to upgrade to 1.15.1?
 
 I noticed that when installing Amanda from FreeBSD ports, the
 installation pulls in gtar from ports (archivers/gtar), which is
 currently version 1.15.1. However, my FreeBSD 5.4 seems to include GNU
 tar 1.13.25 installed with base FreeBSD system as /usr/bin/gtar and I
 was thinking, maybe there is no need to have two gtars on my system?
 
 BTW, I currently use dump for backups, so gtar is only used for indexes.
 
 As near as I have been able to determine, they are interchangeable.
 I've been using 1.15-1 since it came out. 1.13 plain, and any 1.14 will eat 
 your lunch however.

As Debian stable has 1.14-2.2, I guess there do exist good (patched)
versions...

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

Geert

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Re: Is GNU tar 1.13.25 still good with 2.5.0p2?

2006-08-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 19 August 2006 03:30, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006, Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Friday 18 August 2006 11:35, Toomas Aas wrote:
 I'm planning to upgrade my Amanda server (currently 2.4.5) to 2.5.0p2.
 I'm wondering whether GNU tar 1.13.25 is still officially considered
  a good version, or is it absolutely required to upgrade to 1.15.1?
 
 I noticed that when installing Amanda from FreeBSD ports, the
 installation pulls in gtar from ports (archivers/gtar), which is
 currently version 1.15.1. However, my FreeBSD 5.4 seems to include GNU
 tar 1.13.25 installed with base FreeBSD system as /usr/bin/gtar and I
 was thinking, maybe there is no need to have two gtars on my system?
 
 BTW, I currently use dump for backups, so gtar is only used for
  indexes.

 As near as I have been able to determine, they are interchangeable.
 I've been using 1.15-1 since it came out. 1.13 plain, and any 1.14 will
 eat your lunch however.

As Debian stable has 1.14-2.2, I guess there do exist good (patched)
versions...

If I was good at reading code, I'd like to see the comments that went along 
with that patchset.  A 1.14-2 was never available at gnu.org that I know 
of.  After the 1.14 fiasco, I made it a saturday evening job to check and 
see if a new one was out, but it went from 1.14-1 directly to 1.15-1 
ANAICT given the frequency of my checking.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

  Geert

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Is GNU tar 1.13.25 still good with 2.5.0p2?

2006-08-18 Thread Toomas Aas

Hello!

I'm planning to upgrade my Amanda server (currently 2.4.5) to 2.5.0p2. 
I'm wondering whether GNU tar 1.13.25 is still officially considered a 
good version, or is it absolutely required to upgrade to 1.15.1?


I noticed that when installing Amanda from FreeBSD ports, the 
installation pulls in gtar from ports (archivers/gtar), which is 
currently version 1.15.1. However, my FreeBSD 5.4 seems to include GNU 
tar 1.13.25 installed with base FreeBSD system as /usr/bin/gtar and I 
was thinking, maybe there is no need to have two gtars on my system?


BTW, I currently use dump for backups, so gtar is only used for indexes.


Re: Is GNU tar 1.13.25 still good with 2.5.0p2?

2006-08-18 Thread Ian Turner
Toomas,

GNU tar 1.13 should be good; The real troublemaker is tar 1.14, which will 
silently corrupt your archives and throw away data. Unfortunately, some 
distributions patch their tar with other code, so some versions of tar 1.13 
are problematic, whereas some versions of tar 1.14 are perfectly fine.

That said, however:

On Friday 18 August 2006 11:35, Toomas Aas wrote:
 BTW, I currently use dump for backups, so gtar is only used for indexes.

No, Amanda will even use dump to generate indices. So actually you don't need 
tar at all.

Cheers,

--Ian
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Re: Is GNU tar 1.13.25 still good with 2.5.0p2?

2006-08-18 Thread Toomas Aas

Ian Turner wrote:


On Friday 18 August 2006 11:35, Toomas Aas wrote:

BTW, I currently use dump for backups, so gtar is only used for indexes.


No, Amanda will even use dump to generate indices. So actually you don't need 
tar at all.


Of course, what was I thinking.


Re: Is GNU tar 1.13.25 still good with 2.5.0p2?

2006-08-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 18 August 2006 11:35, Toomas Aas wrote:
Hello!

I'm planning to upgrade my Amanda server (currently 2.4.5) to 2.5.0p2.
I'm wondering whether GNU tar 1.13.25 is still officially considered a
good version, or is it absolutely required to upgrade to 1.15.1?

I noticed that when installing Amanda from FreeBSD ports, the
installation pulls in gtar from ports (archivers/gtar), which is
currently version 1.15.1. However, my FreeBSD 5.4 seems to include GNU
tar 1.13.25 installed with base FreeBSD system as /usr/bin/gtar and I
was thinking, maybe there is no need to have two gtars on my system?

BTW, I currently use dump for backups, so gtar is only used for indexes.

As near as I have been able to determine, they are interchangeable.
I've been using 1.15-1 since it came out. 1.13 plain, and any 1.14 will eat 
your lunch however.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order.
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Re: Is GNU tar 1.13.25 still good with 2.5.0p2?

2006-08-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 18 August 2006 12:01, Ian Turner wrote:
Toomas,

GNU tar 1.13 should be good;

No Ian, plain 1.13 is broken, 1.13-19, 1.13-25, and 1.15-1 are the known 
good versions.

The real troublemaker is tar 1.14, which 
 will silently corrupt your archives and throw away data. Unfortunately,
 some distributions patch their tar with other code, so some versions of
 tar 1.13 are problematic, whereas some versions of tar 1.14 are
 perfectly fine.

Never found a 1.14, any suffix (AFAIK there was only one), that would run 
ok here.  Maybe I didn't try them all, but I don't enjoy bleeding enough 
to go back and recheck. 1.14, FWIW, only had maybe a 45 day lifetime on 
the gnu.org ftp site that I know of before it was pulled in favor of 
1.15-1.

That said, however:

On Friday 18 August 2006 11:35, Toomas Aas wrote:
 BTW, I currently use dump for backups, so gtar is only used for
 indexes.

No, Amanda will even use dump to generate indices. So actually you don't
 need tar at all.

Cheers,

--Ian

-- 
Cheers, Gene
There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order.
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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tar (GNU tar) 1.13.25 missing files in index

2002-09-27 Thread Jason Greenberg

Hello, using tar (GNU tar) 1.13.25, I am missing files from the index
that amrecover generates.  From a folder with about 30 thousand files in
it, amrecover lists about 10 files.  This may or may not be related to
the faq-o-matic http://amanda.sourceforge.net/fom-serve/cache/310.html,
because my index file looks corrupted:

07544045020/./abaverh/public_html/WDBRY/wdbry_img_Logo_ISO.jpg
07544045020/./abaverh/public_html/WDBRY/wdbry_img_Logo_ISOW.jpg
07544045020/./abaverh/public_html/WDBRY/wdbry_img_Logo_OOEX.gif
07544045020/./abaverh/public_html/WDBRY/wdbry_img_Logo_OOEX2.gif
07544045020/./abaverh/public_html/WDBRY/wdbry_img_News_CA.jpg
07544045020/./abaverh/public_html/WDBRY/wdbry_img_News_FAQ.jpg
07544045020/./abaverh/public_html/WDBRY/wdbry_img_News_OP.jpg

But please note that all hosts are using tar 1.13.25, which is later
than the suspected  1.13.19 bug.  The corrupted indexing is only
happening on *one* of my client machines, running gnu tar 1.13.25.


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Re: tar (GNU tar) 1.13.25 missing files in index

2002-09-27 Thread Gene Heskett

On Friday 27 September 2002 08:42, Jason Greenberg wrote:
Hello, using tar (GNU tar) 1.13.25, I am missing files from the
 index that amrecover generates.  From a folder with about 30
 thousand files in it, amrecover lists about 10 files.  This may
 or may not be related to the faq-o-matic
 http://amanda.sourceforge.net/fom-serve/cache/310.html, because
 my index file looks corrupted:

07544045020/./abaverh/public_html/WDBRY/wdbry_img_Logo_ISO.jpg
07544045020/./abaverh/public_html/WDBRY/wdbry_img_Logo_ISOW.jpg
07544045020/./abaverh/public_html/WDBRY/wdbry_img_Logo_OOEX.gif
07544045020/./abaverh/public_html/WDBRY/wdbry_img_Logo_OOEX2.gif
07544045020/./abaverh/public_html/WDBRY/wdbry_img_News_CA.jpg
07544045020/./abaverh/public_html/WDBRY/wdbry_img_News_FAQ.jpg
07544045020/./abaverh/public_html/WDBRY/wdbry_img_News_OP.jpg

But please note that all hosts are using tar 1.13.25, which is
 later than the suspected  1.13.19 bug.  The corrupted indexing
 is only happening on *one* of my client machines, running gnu tar
 1.13.25.

I think I'd do a locate on both tar, and gnutar on the machine, and 
make sure that ALL of them are either 1.13-25, or are links to it.  
There may e an old one laying around thats being found first in the 
$PATH.

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Tar 1.13.25?

2002-03-18 Thread Morse, Richard E.

Hi!  I've seen on FreeBSD a listing for gtar 1.13.25.  However, I can't seem
to find the sub-revision number in the sources downloaded from ftp.gnu.org ,
and the most recent rpm from redhat is for 1.13.19-1.  Are the sources on
ftp.gnu.org for 1.13.25?  Or should I just upgrade the lone gnu/linux
machine 1.13.19?

Thanks,
Ricky

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Re: Tar 1.13.25?

2002-03-18 Thread Eric Trager



On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Morse, Richard E. wrote:

 Hi!  I've seen on FreeBSD a listing for gtar 1.13.25.  However, I can't
seem
 to find the sub-revision number in the sources downloaded from
 ftp.gnu.org , and the most recent rpm from redhat is for 1.13.19-1.
 Are the sources on ftp.gnu.org for 1.13.25?  Or should I just upgrade
 the lone gnu/linux machine 1.13.19?

I had trouble finding 1.13.19 when I needed it. I ended up getting it from
ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/tar/.

- Eric






Re: Tar 1.13.25?

2002-03-18 Thread John R. Jackson

Hi!  I've seen on FreeBSD a listing for gtar 1.13.25.  However, I can't seem
to find the sub-revision number in the sources downloaded from ftp.gnu.org ...

You need to go to alpha.gnu.org.  It's beyond me what the GNU folks are
doing with tar and why a decent version isn't in their standard ftp area.

Ricky

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