Re: Another Amanda + Win32 backup problem
Hi,
> Thanks Chris it appears you have found my problem.
[...]
> After issuing strings /opt/amanda/libexec/sendbackup | grep
> amandapass it returns nothing.
I assume you have used your path in the statement above? /opt is not the
default amanda directory.
> So back to compiling amanda.
> I have compiled amanda 2.4.4 and 2.4.4p1 with the following
> ./configure --with-smbclient=/usr/local/samba/bin/smbclient
> --with-user=operator --with-group=sys --with-config=SElvl0 --wit
> h-suffixes --with-libraries=/usr/local/lib
>
> After doing a make, I so another search for amandapass in sendbackup
>
> /amanda-2.4.4p1/client-src$ strings - sendbackup* |grep amandapass
^^
What is this hyphen doing there?
> Do you have any other suggestions? Is there possibly something else
> I'm missing?
I just had a look at the sources here:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] grep amandapass *.c
findpass.c: if ( (fp = fopen("/etc/amandapass", "r")) ) {
selfcheck.c:testfd = open("/etc/amandapass", R_OK);
selfcheck.c:printf("ERROR [/etc/amandapass is world
readable!]\n");
selfcheck.c:printf("OK [/etc/amandapass is readable, but
not by all]\n");
selfcheck.c:printf("OK [unable to stat /etc/amandapass:
%s]\n",
selfcheck.c:printf("ERROR [unable to open /etc/amandapass:
%s]\n",
It looks as if the path "/etc/amandapass" is hard coded.
Christopher
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RE: Another Amanda + Win32 backup problem
Thanks Chris it appears you have found my problem. (see below) > -Original Message- > From: Christopher Odenbach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 30 September 2003 5:14 PM > To: Jason Tedesco; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Another Amanda + Win32 backup problem > > > > Hi Jason, > > > I am trying to backup a win32 host with Amanda and keep running into > > problems. I compiled Amanda with smbclient full path. When I try > > executing an amcheck I receive the following error. > > > > Amanda Backup Client Hosts Check > > > > WARNING: mymachine.host.org: selfcheck request timed out. > Host down? > > Client check: 1 host checked in 30.019 seconds, 1 problem found > > > > (brought to you by Amanda 2.4.4p1) > > > > I also receive this error in my logfile. > > ERROR planner Request to mymachine.host.org timed out. > > > > I increased the etimeout in amanda.conf although that did not change > > a thing. I can use smbclient to mount my drive without a > problem, and > > the directory shard on the win32 host has no permissions set. > > > > This is what I have below in my disklist > > mymachine.host.org //mymachine/temp comp-root-tar > > I think you have not quite understood how amanda's samba backups work. > > The first entry in the disklist should point to the > unix/linux host that > actually starts smbclient. This can be (but does not have to be) your > tape server. Your tape server is actually quite a good idea > to prevent > unneccessary data transfer through your network. > > The second entry contains usually the disk. This is the point where > samba jumps into: If the disk is something like > ///, then > the backup is done via smbclient to the host . > > So: correct your disklist entry to something like > > yourtapeserver.host.org //mymachine/temp comp-root-tar > > > The reason why I have amandapass in two directories is because I am > > unsure which one will be used by amanda on a solaris 8 box. > > Try this on the solaris box (that is on your tape server!): > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>>strings /opt/amanda/libexec/sendbackup | grep > amandapass > /etc/amandapass > > This is the correct path. > > Greetings, > > Christopher > > -- > == > Dipl.-Ing. Christopher Odenbach > HNI Rechnerbetrieb > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Tel.: +49 5251 60 6215 > == > > After issuing strings /opt/amanda/libexec/sendbackup | grep amandapass it returns nothing. So back to compiling amanda. I have compiled amanda 2.4.4 and 2.4.4p1 with the following ./configure --with-smbclient=/usr/local/samba/bin/smbclient --with-user=operator --with-group=sys --with-config=SElvl0 --wit h-suffixes --with-libraries=/usr/local/lib After doing a make, I so another search for amandapass in sendbackup /amanda-2.4.4p1/client-src$ strings - sendbackup* |grep amandapass Do you have any other suggestions? Is there possibly something else I'm missing? Thanks. Regards, # jason
Re: Another Amanda + Win32 backup problem
Hi Jason, > I am trying to backup a win32 host with Amanda and keep running into > problems. I compiled Amanda with smbclient full path. When I try > executing an amcheck I receive the following error. > > Amanda Backup Client Hosts Check > > WARNING: mymachine.host.org: selfcheck request timed out. Host down? > Client check: 1 host checked in 30.019 seconds, 1 problem found > > (brought to you by Amanda 2.4.4p1) > > I also receive this error in my logfile. > ERROR planner Request to mymachine.host.org timed out. > > I increased the etimeout in amanda.conf although that did not change > a thing. I can use smbclient to mount my drive without a problem, and > the directory shard on the win32 host has no permissions set. > > This is what I have below in my disklist > mymachine.host.org //mymachine/temp comp-root-tar I think you have not quite understood how amanda's samba backups work. The first entry in the disklist should point to the unix/linux host that actually starts smbclient. This can be (but does not have to be) your tape server. Your tape server is actually quite a good idea to prevent unneccessary data transfer through your network. The second entry contains usually the disk. This is the point where samba jumps into: If the disk is something like ///, then the backup is done via smbclient to the host . So: correct your disklist entry to something like yourtapeserver.host.org //mymachine/temp comp-root-tar > The reason why I have amandapass in two directories is because I am > unsure which one will be used by amanda on a solaris 8 box. Try this on the solaris box (that is on your tape server!): [EMAIL PROTECTED]>>strings /opt/amanda/libexec/sendbackup | grep amandapass /etc/amandapass This is the correct path. Greetings, Christopher -- == Dipl.-Ing. Christopher Odenbach HNI Rechnerbetrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel.: +49 5251 60 6215 ==
RE: Another Amanda + Win32 backup problem
Does the share have a large amount of data ? One of our file servers over here does and sometimes the amcheck also times out. Bert De Ridder PeopleWare NV - Head Office Cdt.Weynsstraat 85 B-2660 Hoboken Tel: +32 3 448.33.38 Fax: +32 3 448.32.66 PeopleWare NV - Branch Office Geel Kleinhoefstraat 5 B-2440 Geel Tel: +32 14 57.00.90 Fax: +32 14 58.13.25 http://www.peopleware.be "Jason Tedesco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 30/09/2003 08:57 To <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject RE: Another Amanda + Win32 backup problem Sorry that was just a typo, they do have 2 slashes in amandapass -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 30 September 2003 4:54 PM To: Jason Tedesco Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Another Amanda + Win32 backup problem Your entries in amandapass should also have 2 slashes -> //mymachine/temp username%password HTH Bert De Ridder PeopleWare NV - Head Office Cdt.Weynsstraat 85 B-2660 Hoboken Tel: +32 3 448.33.38 Fax: +32 3 448.32.66 PeopleWare NV - Branch Office Geel Kleinhoefstraat 5 B-2440 Geel Tel: +32 14 57.00.90 Fax: +32 14 58.13.25 http://www.peopleware.be "Jason Tedesco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30/09/2003 08:45 To <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc Subject Another Amanda + Win32 backup problem I am trying to backup a win32 host with Amanda and keep running into problems. I compiled Amanda with smbclient full path. When I try executing an amcheck I receive the following error. Amanda Backup Client Hosts Check WARNING: mymachine.host.org: selfcheck request timed out. Host down? Client check: 1 host checked in 30.019 seconds, 1 problem found (brought to you by Amanda 2.4.4p1) I also receive this error in my logfile. ERROR planner Request to mymachine.host.org timed out. I increased the etimeout in amanda.conf although that did not change a thing. I can use smbclient to mount my drive without a problem, and the directory shard on the win32 host has no permissions set. This is what I have below in my disklist mymachine.host.org //mymachine/temp comp-root-tar I also have a username and password set out in /etc/amandapass and /usr/local/etc/amandapass . The reason why I have amandapass in two directories is because I am unsure which one will be used by amanda on a solaris 8 box. /mymachine/temp username%password Any advice would be appreciated. Regards, Jason
RE: Another Amanda + Win32 backup problem
Sorry
that was just a typo, they do have 2 slashes in
amandapass
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, 30 September
2003 4:54 PMTo: Jason TedescoCc:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re:
Another Amanda + Win32 backup problemYour entries in amandapass should also have 2 slashes
-> //mymachine/temp
username%passwordHTHBert De RidderPeopleWare NV - Head OfficeCdt.Weynsstraat 85 B-2660 Hoboken Tel: +32 3 448.33.38
Fax: +32 3 448.32.66 PeopleWare NV - Branch Office GeelKleinhoefstraat 5B-2440 GeelTel: +32 14
57.00.90Fax: +32 14 58.13.25http://www.peopleware.be
"Jason Tedesco"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
30/09/2003 08:45
To
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Subject
Another Amanda + Win32
backup problem
I am trying to backup a win32 host with Amanda and keep running
into problems. I compiled Amanda with smbclient full path.When I try
executing an amcheck I receive the following error.Amanda Backup
Client Hosts CheckWARNING:
mymachine.host.org: selfcheck request timed out. Host down?Client
check: 1 host checked in 30.019 seconds, 1 problem found(brought to
you by Amanda 2.4.4p1)I also receive this error in my
logfile.ERROR planner Request to mymachine.host.org timed out.I
increased the etimeout in amanda.conf although that did not change a
thing.I can use smbclient to mount my drive without a problem, and the
directory shard on the win32 host has no permissions set.This is what
I have below in my disklistmymachine.host.org //mymachine/temp
comp-root-tarI also have a username and password set out in
/etc/amandapass and /usr/local/etc/amandapass . The reason why I have
amandapass in two directories is because I am unsure which one will be used by
amanda on a solaris 8 box./mymachine/temp
username%passwordAny advice would be
appreciated.Regards,
Jason
Re: Another Amanda + Win32 backup problem
Your entries in amandapass should also have 2 slashes -> //mymachine/temp username%password HTH Bert De Ridder PeopleWare NV - Head Office Cdt.Weynsstraat 85 B-2660 Hoboken Tel: +32 3 448.33.38 Fax: +32 3 448.32.66 PeopleWare NV - Branch Office Geel Kleinhoefstraat 5 B-2440 Geel Tel: +32 14 57.00.90 Fax: +32 14 58.13.25 http://www.peopleware.be "Jason Tedesco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30/09/2003 08:45 To <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc Subject Another Amanda + Win32 backup problem I am trying to backup a win32 host with Amanda and keep running into problems. I compiled Amanda with smbclient full path. When I try executing an amcheck I receive the following error. Amanda Backup Client Hosts Check WARNING: mymachine.host.org: selfcheck request timed out. Host down? Client check: 1 host checked in 30.019 seconds, 1 problem found (brought to you by Amanda 2.4.4p1) I also receive this error in my logfile. ERROR planner Request to mymachine.host.org timed out. I increased the etimeout in amanda.conf although that did not change a thing. I can use smbclient to mount my drive without a problem, and the directory shard on the win32 host has no permissions set. This is what I have below in my disklist mymachine.host.org //mymachine/temp comp-root-tar I also have a username and password set out in /etc/amandapass and /usr/local/etc/amandapass . The reason why I have amandapass in two directories is because I am unsure which one will be used by amanda on a solaris 8 box. /mymachine/temp username%password Any advice would be appreciated. Regards, Jason
Another Amanda + Win32 backup problem
I am trying to backup a win32 host with Amanda and keep running into problems. I compiled Amanda with smbclient full path. When I try executing an amcheck I receive the following error. Amanda Backup Client Hosts Check WARNING: mymachine.host.org: selfcheck request timed out. Host down? Client check: 1 host checked in 30.019 seconds, 1 problem found (brought to you by Amanda 2.4.4p1) I also receive this error in my logfile. ERROR planner Request to mymachine.host.org timed out. I increased the etimeout in amanda.conf although that did not change a thing. I can use smbclient to mount my drive without a problem, and the directory shard on the win32 host has no permissions set. This is what I have below in my disklist mymachine.host.org //mymachine/temp comp-root-tar I also have a username and password set out in /etc/amandapass and /usr/local/etc/amandapass . The reason why I have amandapass in two directories is because I am unsure which one will be used by amanda on a solaris 8 box. /mymachine/temp username%password Any advice would be appreciated. Regards, Jason
Re: Win32 Backup?
"Steve Loughran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> One way I have done it is to use MS's backup program to backup to a >> samba share on a freebsd box. MS backup will happily backup to a samba >> share. Then I just backup all that stuff using amanda. > >beware of backing up via NT Backup to a samba share, always verify the >contents of the file. I ran into a problem wher it appeared to be backing up >just fine, and created a huge BKF file, but it was full of zeros and >unusable... I've been using ntbackup to files on samba share for a number of weeks now, haven't seen any problems. I do have the verify flag on. Perhaps it's the samba version or config, or maybe networking issues? Just a thought. I did have to alter my original schedule/dump type in ntbackup. I was getting tape overruns due to that fact that amanda has no control of the w2k boxes schedule/dump type. It would be very cool if some smart win programmer could write wrappers for ntbackup.exe so that amanda could control it directly. Also, I copy over the ntbackup log files at the end of the script. Seems it can only have 10 log files at a time. Ntbackup in w2k is pretty useful. Although Veritas did write it for them. -- toby bluhm philips medical systems, it support, mr development, cleveland ohio [EMAIL PROTECTED] 440-483-5323
Re: Win32 Backup?
> One way I have done it is to use MS's backup program to backup to a > samba share on a freebsd box. MS backup will happily backup to a samba > share. Then I just backup all that stuff using amanda. beware of backing up via NT Backup to a samba share, always verify the contents of the file. I ran into a problem wher it appeared to be backing up just fine, and created a huge BKF file, but it was full of zeros and unusable... Steve
Re: Win32 Backup?
I've had weird stuff happen to me when writing across samba mounts -- the files would quietly disappear under the Nethood pseudo-directory, eating up disk space while being inaccessible. Associating the mounts with drive letters seems to avoid this.
Re: Win32 Backup?
Anthony A. D. Talltree wrote: I've never had to do this, but an approach that I'd probably persue would be to use Symmantec/Norton Ghost to create occasional disk images that would get xferred via Samba to a *ix filesystem. I'd try real hard to keep important data off of the M$ machine's local disks. One way I have done it is to use MS's backup program to backup to a samba share on a freebsd box. MS backup will happily backup to a samba share. Then I just backup all that stuff using amanda. I've used MS backup on XP Pro and w2kpro this way and it works pretty well for my needs. -- Michael Perry | Do or do not. There is no try. -Master Yoda [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.lnxpowered.org
Re: Win32 Backup?
I've never had to do this, but an approach that I'd probably persue would be to use Symmantec/Norton Ghost to create occasional disk images that would get xferred via Samba to a *ix filesystem. I'd try real hard to keep important data off of the M$ machine's local disks.
Re: Win32 Backup?
> > I've used Amanda before in a Unix-only shop, but now am interested in > > backing up Win32 clients. > > > > I see Amanda.Org still seems to hold the official line of "use smbclient > > to backup Win32 clients," but there's a port of Amanda client to Win32 > > at http://sourceforge.net/projects/amanda-win32 which appears to have > > about 5-15 downloads daily for the last week or two. > > I can't tell you much, but I can tell that the official 2.4.4 version > supports the cygwin environment. There have been a number of messages on > this recently -- search the archives. Okay, I searched the archives. There is some conjecture that the Win32 client is not too recent, but there doesn't seem to be anything concrete. Someone else said the 'sbmclient' method gives problems when the user setup to do the backups on the Win32 client don't have permissions to back up the machine. Cygwin method requires first installing Cygwin on every client, right? smbclient method requires only creating a user on every client. So unless every Win32 client has Cygwin installed... would it be safe to say that The One Right Way to do Win32 backups is: - Setup a local administrator on the client (say, "amanda") - Use smbclient at the server to backup - Don't use the Win32 client at SourceForge (it's out-of-date) ? -- pv
Re: Win32 Backup?
On 4 Mar 2003 at 10:54am, philo vivero wrote > I've used Amanda before in a Unix-only shop, but now am interested in > backing up Win32 clients. > > I see Amanda.Org still seems to hold the official line of "use smbclient > to backup Win32 clients," but there's a port of Amanda client to Win32 > at http://sourceforge.net/projects/amanda-win32 which appears to have > about 5-15 downloads daily for the last week or two. > > What can you tell me about the Win32 port of Amanda client software? Is > it appropriate for backing up a heterogenous Win'95, Win'98, Win'XP, > Win'2K network? What are the 'gotchas'? I can't tell you much, but I can tell that the official 2.4.4 version supports the cygwin environment. There have been a number of messages on this recently -- search the archives. -- Joshua Baker-LePain Department of Biomedical Engineering Duke University
Win32 Backup?
Hi, I've used Amanda before in a Unix-only shop, but now am interested in backing up Win32 clients. I see Amanda.Org still seems to hold the official line of "use smbclient to backup Win32 clients," but there's a port of Amanda client to Win32 at http://sourceforge.net/projects/amanda-win32 which appears to have about 5-15 downloads daily for the last week or two. What can you tell me about the Win32 port of Amanda client software? Is it appropriate for backing up a heterogenous Win'95, Win'98, Win'XP, Win'2K network? What are the 'gotchas'? -- pv
