Re: Yet another Insecure Port ...

2001-04-05 Thread Greg Copeland

 From a security perspective, you normally don't want to allow packet 
fragments.  In most cases, turning off packet fragmentation is generally 
what you want.  Why?  Well, because some rules can not be properly 
applied to packet fragments which may create potential security concerns.

Greg


Jason Hollinden wrote:

> The ports that worked best for me were:
> 
>  --with-portrange=2064,2320
>  --with-udpportrange=830,870
> 
> Also, some other firewall wierdness I've had (with RedHat6.2's ipchains)
> was once in a while a fragmented packet is sent, for whatever reason.
> My amanda client's firewall log would show 3 denied packets from the
> tape server, with source and destination ports of 65535.
> 
> To get around this, you need a rule that allows fragmented packets, such
> as this:
> 
>  -A input -s /32 -d /32 -f -j ACCEPT
>  
> 
> On Wed, 04 Apr 2001, Doug Silver wrote:
> 
>> Brand new build of amanda 2.4.2p2
>> 
>> server config build:
>> /configure  --with-gnutar=/usr/local/bin/tar --with-portrange=900,950
>> --with-udpportrange=900,950 (etc)
>> 
>> client config build:
>> ./configure --with-gtar=/usr/local/bin/gtar --without-server
>> --with-portrange=900,950 --with-udpportrange=900,950
>> 
>> Server binaries:
>> -rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel   68759 Apr  4 15:46
>> /usr/local/libexec/calcsize*
>> -rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel  231765 Apr  4 15:47 /usr/local/libexec/dumper*
>> -rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel   58227 Apr  4 15:46
>> /usr/local/libexec/killpgrp*
>> -rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel  309711 Apr  4 15:47 /usr/local/libexec/planner*
>> -rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel   56004 Apr  4 15:46 /usr/local/libexec/rundump*
>> -rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel   56761 Apr  4 15:46 /usr/local/libexec/runtar*
>> -rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel  322122 Apr  4 15:47 /usr/local/sbin/amcheck*
>> 
>> Client:
>> ls: /usr/local/libexec/dumper: No such file or directory
>> ls: /usr/local/libexec/planner: No such file or directory
>> -rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel  71756 Apr  4 17:22 /usr/local/libexec/calcsize*
>> -rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel  62521 Apr  4 17:22 /usr/local/libexec/killpgrp*
>> -rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel  60112 Apr  4 17:22 /usr/local/libexec/rundump*
>> -rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel  60905 Apr  4 17:22 /usr/local/libexec/runtar*
>> 
>> amcheck -c test
>> 
>> Amanda Backup Client Hosts Check
>> 
>> ERROR: frog.hoop-t.net: [host cat.hoop-t.net: port 62870 not
>> secure]
>> Client check: 1 host checked in 0.076 seconds, 1 problem found
>> 
>> I'm not seeing any errors through the firewall, so I'm not sure how to
>> further debug this.
>> 
>> Any suggestions?  Has anyone got Amanda to work using the
>> udpportrange/portrange options through a firewall?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> ~
>> Doug Silver
>> 619 235-2665
>> Quantified Systems, Inc
>> ~
>> Here's the client amandad.debug packet stuff:
>> sending ack:
>> 
>> Amanda 2.4 ACK HANDLE 000-00300D08 SEQ 986430352
>> 
>> 
>> amandad: sending REP packet:
>> 
>> Amanda 2.4 REP HANDLE 000-00300D08 SEQ 986430352
>> ERROR [host cat.hoop-t.net: port 62870 not secure]
>> 
>> 
>> amandad: got packet:
>> 
>> Amanda 2.4 ACK HANDLE 000-00300D08 SEQ 986430352
>> 
>> 
>> amandad: pid 56308 finish time Wed Apr  4 17:25:53 2001
>> 
> 
> 
> --
>Jason Hollinden
> 
>SMG Systems Admin
> 


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Re: Yet another Insecure Port ...

2001-04-05 Thread Jason Hollinden

The ports that worked best for me were:

 --with-portrange=2064,2320
 --with-udpportrange=830,870

Also, some other firewall wierdness I've had (with RedHat6.2's ipchains)
was once in a while a fragmented packet is sent, for whatever reason.
My amanda client's firewall log would show 3 denied packets from the
tape server, with source and destination ports of 65535.

To get around this, you need a rule that allows fragmented packets, such
as this:

 -A input -s /32 -d /32 -f -j ACCEPT
 

On Wed, 04 Apr 2001, Doug Silver wrote:

> Brand new build of amanda 2.4.2p2
> 
> server config build:
> /configure  --with-gnutar=/usr/local/bin/tar --with-portrange=900,950
> --with-udpportrange=900,950 (etc)
> 
> client config build:
> ./configure --with-gtar=/usr/local/bin/gtar --without-server
> --with-portrange=900,950 --with-udpportrange=900,950
> 
> Server binaries:
> -rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel   68759 Apr  4 15:46
> /usr/local/libexec/calcsize*
> -rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel  231765 Apr  4 15:47 /usr/local/libexec/dumper*
> -rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel   58227 Apr  4 15:46
> /usr/local/libexec/killpgrp*
> -rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel  309711 Apr  4 15:47 /usr/local/libexec/planner*
> -rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel   56004 Apr  4 15:46 /usr/local/libexec/rundump*
> -rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel   56761 Apr  4 15:46 /usr/local/libexec/runtar*
> -rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel  322122 Apr  4 15:47 /usr/local/sbin/amcheck*
> 
> Client:
> ls: /usr/local/libexec/dumper: No such file or directory
> ls: /usr/local/libexec/planner: No such file or directory
> -rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel  71756 Apr  4 17:22 /usr/local/libexec/calcsize*
> -rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel  62521 Apr  4 17:22 /usr/local/libexec/killpgrp*
> -rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel  60112 Apr  4 17:22 /usr/local/libexec/rundump*
> -rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel  60905 Apr  4 17:22 /usr/local/libexec/runtar*
> 
> amcheck -c test
> 
> Amanda Backup Client Hosts Check
> 
> ERROR: frog.hoop-t.net: [host cat.hoop-t.net: port 62870 not
> secure]
> Client check: 1 host checked in 0.076 seconds, 1 problem found
> 
> I'm not seeing any errors through the firewall, so I'm not sure how to
> further debug this.
> 
> Any suggestions?  Has anyone got Amanda to work using the
> udpportrange/portrange options through a firewall?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> ~
> Doug Silver
> 619 235-2665
> Quantified Systems, Inc
> ~
> Here's the client amandad.debug packet stuff:
> sending ack:
> 
> Amanda 2.4 ACK HANDLE 000-00300D08 SEQ 986430352
> 
> 
> amandad: sending REP packet:
> 
> Amanda 2.4 REP HANDLE 000-00300D08 SEQ 986430352
> ERROR [host cat.hoop-t.net: port 62870 not secure]
> 
> 
> amandad: got packet:
> 
> Amanda 2.4 ACK HANDLE 000-00300D08 SEQ 986430352
> 
> 
> amandad: pid 56308 finish time Wed Apr  4 17:25:53 2001
> 


--
   Jason Hollinden

   SMG Systems Admin



Yet another Insecure Port ...

2001-04-04 Thread Doug Silver

Brand new build of amanda 2.4.2p2

server config build:
/configure  --with-gnutar=/usr/local/bin/tar --with-portrange=900,950
--with-udpportrange=900,950 (etc)

client config build:
./configure --with-gtar=/usr/local/bin/gtar --without-server
--with-portrange=900,950 --with-udpportrange=900,950

Server binaries:
-rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel   68759 Apr  4 15:46
/usr/local/libexec/calcsize*
-rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel  231765 Apr  4 15:47 /usr/local/libexec/dumper*
-rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel   58227 Apr  4 15:46
/usr/local/libexec/killpgrp*
-rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel  309711 Apr  4 15:47 /usr/local/libexec/planner*
-rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel   56004 Apr  4 15:46 /usr/local/libexec/rundump*
-rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel   56761 Apr  4 15:46 /usr/local/libexec/runtar*
-rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel  322122 Apr  4 15:47 /usr/local/sbin/amcheck*

Client:
ls: /usr/local/libexec/dumper: No such file or directory
ls: /usr/local/libexec/planner: No such file or directory
-rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel  71756 Apr  4 17:22 /usr/local/libexec/calcsize*
-rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel  62521 Apr  4 17:22 /usr/local/libexec/killpgrp*
-rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel  60112 Apr  4 17:22 /usr/local/libexec/rundump*
-rwsr-x---  1 root  wheel  60905 Apr  4 17:22 /usr/local/libexec/runtar*

amcheck -c test

Amanda Backup Client Hosts Check

ERROR: frog.hoop-t.net: [host cat.hoop-t.net: port 62870 not
secure]
Client check: 1 host checked in 0.076 seconds, 1 problem found

I'm not seeing any errors through the firewall, so I'm not sure how to
further debug this.

Any suggestions?  Has anyone got Amanda to work using the
udpportrange/portrange options through a firewall?

Thanks!

~
Doug Silver
619 235-2665
Quantified Systems, Inc
~
Here's the client amandad.debug packet stuff:
sending ack:

Amanda 2.4 ACK HANDLE 000-00300D08 SEQ 986430352


amandad: sending REP packet:

Amanda 2.4 REP HANDLE 000-00300D08 SEQ 986430352
ERROR [host cat.hoop-t.net: port 62870 not secure]


amandad: got packet:

Amanda 2.4 ACK HANDLE 000-00300D08 SEQ 986430352


amandad: pid 56308 finish time Wed Apr  4 17:25:53 2001