Re: amanda client on MAC, launchd issue

2007-01-10 Thread René Kanters

Hi,

Has anybody been able to use the Mac as a backup server and do a  
restore from that? With the instructions I found online (which  
included the amandad launchd setup described below) I am able to use  
the Mac (OS X, not even server) as a backup server, but I can't get  
the amrestore to work.


René

On Jan 10, 2007, at 11:52 AM, Alan Pearson wrote:


Maybe this will help.
It's the one I use here for OS/X server client. I think the key  
line is

inetdCompatability 


http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd";>


GroupName
backup
InitGroups

Label
org.amanda.amandad
ProgramArguments

/usr/libexec/amandad

Sockets

Listeners

SockServiceName
amanda
SockType
dgram


UserName
amanda
inetdCompatibility

Wait


  


--
AlanP

On Wed, January 10, 2007 4:13 pm, McGraw, Robert P. wrote:



Not sure if this is relivent to your case but;

1) I am new to Mac OSX so take pity if I say something stupid.
2) We run a Mac OSX server
3) Our Mac OSX server uses Apple's launchd to launch programs.
4) Added a LaunchDaemons .plist restarted launchd and I have been  
backup

up
our Mac server from a Solaris 10 host for the last several months  
and it

has
been working just fine.

I believe launchd is Apple's replacement for xinetd, cron and  
rc.local

files, something like Sun's new service (svc) management.

Robert




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Gene Heskett
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:36 PM
To: amanda-users@amanda.org
Cc: Brian Cuttler; Chris Knight; Brian Kilpatrick
Subject: Re: amanda client on MAC, launchd issue


On Tuesday 09 January 2007 11:44, Brian Cuttler wrote:

We are running the server on Solaris and a client on MAC OS X
but are seening that the launchd process seems to invalidate
the service.

So far I haven't found the actual line in /var/log/system.log
but I see these messages which show the intent, so I believe
I'm on track.

Jan  6 18:32:09 trel launchd: org.amanda.amandad: 7 more failures
without living at least 60 seconds will cause job removal


trel:/var/log cssadmin$ uname -a
Darwin trel.wadsworth.org 8.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.8.0: Fri  
Sep  8
17:18:57 PDT 2006; root:xnu-792.12.6.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power  
Macintosh

powerpc

On the client
amandad: build: VERSION="Amanda-2.4.5p1"

Should we use xinetd instead ?


amanda needs xinetd because the services (generally speaking) are
launched
on demand rather than launched and sleeping till demand.  It  
could at

one
time be done by inetd, but that code may have bit rot if it still
exists,
even in a version as old as 2.4.5p1.  I'm currently running Amanda
version 2.5.1p2-20070105 here.

And this is a wee bit odd because on FC6, I had to install xinetd  
after
the installation was done in order for amanda to continue to work  
with

my
existing configuration which I simply copied over from the old  
drive.


I have NDI why xinetd is not now part of the default install, so its
possible we may be seeing the first shot in needing to figure out  
a new
way to do it.  In fact my curiosity is piqued enough to go ask on  
the

fedora list as the the future status of xinetd.


TIA,

Brian
---
  Brian R Cuttler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Computer Systems Support(v) 518 486-1697
  Wadsworth Center(f) 518 473-6384
  NYS Department of HealthHelp Desk 518 473-0773


--
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above
message by Gene Heskett are:
Copyright 2007 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.









RE: amanda client on MAC, launchd issue

2007-01-10 Thread Alan Pearson
Maybe this will help.
It's the one I use here for OS/X server client. I think the key line is
inetdCompatability 


http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd";>


GroupName
backup
InitGroups

Label
org.amanda.amandad
ProgramArguments

/usr/libexec/amandad

Sockets

Listeners

SockServiceName
amanda
SockType
dgram


UserName
amanda
inetdCompatibility

Wait


  


-- 
AlanP

On Wed, January 10, 2007 4:13 pm, McGraw, Robert P. wrote:
>
>
> Not sure if this is relivent to your case but;
>
> 1) I am new to Mac OSX so take pity if I say something stupid.
> 2) We run a Mac OSX server
> 3) Our Mac OSX server uses Apple's launchd to launch programs.
> 4) Added a LaunchDaemons .plist restarted launchd and I have been backup
> up
> our Mac server from a Solaris 10 host for the last several months and it
> has
> been working just fine.
>
> I believe launchd is Apple's replacement for xinetd, cron and rc.local
> files, something like Sun's new service (svc) management.
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Gene Heskett
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:36 PM
>> To: amanda-users@amanda.org
>> Cc: Brian Cuttler; Chris Knight; Brian Kilpatrick
>> Subject: Re: amanda client on MAC, launchd issue
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday 09 January 2007 11:44, Brian Cuttler wrote:
>> >We are running the server on Solaris and a client on MAC OS X
>> >but are seening that the launchd process seems to invalidate
>> >the service.
>> >
>> >So far I haven't found the actual line in /var/log/system.log
>> >but I see these messages which show the intent, so I believe
>> >I'm on track.
>> >
>> >Jan  6 18:32:09 trel launchd: org.amanda.amandad: 7 more failures
>> > without living at least 60 seconds will cause job removal
>> >
>> >
>> >trel:/var/log cssadmin$ uname -a
>> >Darwin trel.wadsworth.org 8.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.8.0: Fri Sep  8
>> > 17:18:57 PDT 2006; root:xnu-792.12.6.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh
>> > powerpc
>> >
>> >On the client
>> >amandad: build: VERSION="Amanda-2.4.5p1"
>> >
>> >Should we use xinetd instead ?
>> >
>> amanda needs xinetd because the services (generally speaking) are
>> launched
>> on demand rather than launched and sleeping till demand.  It could at
>> one
>> time be done by inetd, but that code may have bit rot if it still
>> exists,
>> even in a version as old as 2.4.5p1.  I'm currently running Amanda
>> version 2.5.1p2-20070105 here.
>>
>> And this is a wee bit odd because on FC6, I had to install xinetd after
>> the installation was done in order for amanda to continue to work with
>> my
>> existing configuration which I simply copied over from the old drive.
>>
>> I have NDI why xinetd is not now part of the default install, so its
>> possible we may be seeing the first shot in needing to figure out a new
>> way to do it.  In fact my curiosity is piqued enough to go ask on the
>> fedora list as the the future status of xinetd.
>>
>> >TIA,
>> >
>> >Brian
>> >---
>> >   Brian R Cuttler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >   Computer Systems Support(v) 518 486-1697
>> >   Wadsworth Center(f) 518 473-6384
>> >   NYS Department of HealthHelp Desk 518 473-0773
>>
>> --
>> Cheers, Gene
>> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
>> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
>> Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above
>> message by Gene Heskett are:
>> Copyright 2007 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
>



RE: amanda client on MAC, launchd issue

2007-01-10 Thread McGraw, Robert P.


Not sure if this is relivent to your case but; 

1) I am new to Mac OSX so take pity if I say something stupid.
2) We run a Mac OSX server
3) Our Mac OSX server uses Apple's launchd to launch programs.
4) Added a LaunchDaemons .plist restarted launchd and I have been backup up
our Mac server from a Solaris 10 host for the last several months and it has
been working just fine.

I believe launchd is Apple's replacement for xinetd, cron and rc.local
files, something like Sun's new service (svc) management.

Robert



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Gene Heskett
> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:36 PM
> To: amanda-users@amanda.org
> Cc: Brian Cuttler; Chris Knight; Brian Kilpatrick
> Subject: Re: amanda client on MAC, launchd issue
> 
> 
> On Tuesday 09 January 2007 11:44, Brian Cuttler wrote:
> >We are running the server on Solaris and a client on MAC OS X
> >but are seening that the launchd process seems to invalidate
> >the service.
> >
> >So far I haven't found the actual line in /var/log/system.log
> >but I see these messages which show the intent, so I believe
> >I'm on track.
> >
> >Jan  6 18:32:09 trel launchd: org.amanda.amandad: 7 more failures
> > without living at least 60 seconds will cause job removal
> >
> >
> >trel:/var/log cssadmin$ uname -a
> >Darwin trel.wadsworth.org 8.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.8.0: Fri Sep  8
> > 17:18:57 PDT 2006; root:xnu-792.12.6.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh
> > powerpc
> >
> >On the client
> >amandad: build: VERSION="Amanda-2.4.5p1"
> >
> >Should we use xinetd instead ?
> >
> amanda needs xinetd because the services (generally speaking) are launched
> on demand rather than launched and sleeping till demand.  It could at one
> time be done by inetd, but that code may have bit rot if it still exists,
> even in a version as old as 2.4.5p1.  I'm currently running Amanda
> version 2.5.1p2-20070105 here.
> 
> And this is a wee bit odd because on FC6, I had to install xinetd after
> the installation was done in order for amanda to continue to work with my
> existing configuration which I simply copied over from the old drive.
> 
> I have NDI why xinetd is not now part of the default install, so its
> possible we may be seeing the first shot in needing to figure out a new
> way to do it.  In fact my curiosity is piqued enough to go ask on the
> fedora list as the the future status of xinetd.
> 
> > TIA,
> >
> > Brian
> >---
> >   Brian R Cuttler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Computer Systems Support(v) 518 486-1697
> >   Wadsworth Center(f) 518 473-6384
> >   NYS Department of HealthHelp Desk 518 473-0773
> 
> --
> Cheers, Gene
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above
> message by Gene Heskett are:
> Copyright 2007 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.


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Re: amanda client on MAC, launchd issue

2007-01-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 09 January 2007 11:44, Brian Cuttler wrote:
>We are running the server on Solaris and a client on MAC OS X
>but are seening that the launchd process seems to invalidate
>the service.
>
>So far I haven't found the actual line in /var/log/system.log
>but I see these messages which show the intent, so I believe
>I'm on track.
>
>Jan  6 18:32:09 trel launchd: org.amanda.amandad: 7 more failures
> without living at least 60 seconds will cause job removal
>
>
>trel:/var/log cssadmin$ uname -a
>Darwin trel.wadsworth.org 8.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.8.0: Fri Sep  8
> 17:18:57 PDT 2006; root:xnu-792.12.6.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh
> powerpc
>
>On the client
>amandad: build: VERSION="Amanda-2.4.5p1"
>
>Should we use xinetd instead ?
>
amanda needs xinetd because the services (generally speaking) are launched 
on demand rather than launched and sleeping till demand.  It could at one 
time be done by inetd, but that code may have bit rot if it still exists, 
even in a version as old as 2.4.5p1.  I'm currently running Amanda 
version 2.5.1p2-20070105 here.

And this is a wee bit odd because on FC6, I had to install xinetd after 
the installation was done in order for amanda to continue to work with my 
existing configuration which I simply copied over from the old drive.

I have NDI why xinetd is not now part of the default install, so its 
possible we may be seeing the first shot in needing to figure out a new 
way to do it.  In fact my curiosity is piqued enough to go ask on the 
fedora list as the the future status of xinetd.

>   TIA,
>
>   Brian
>---
>   Brian R Cuttler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Computer Systems Support(v) 518 486-1697
>   Wadsworth Center(f) 518 473-6384
>   NYS Department of HealthHelp Desk 518 473-0773

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above
message by Gene Heskett are:
Copyright 2007 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.


amanda client on MAC, launchd issue

2007-01-09 Thread Brian Cuttler

We are running the server on Solaris and a client on MAC OS X
but are seening that the launchd process seems to invalidate
the service.

So far I haven't found the actual line in /var/log/system.log
but I see these messages which show the intent, so I believe
I'm on track.

Jan  6 18:32:09 trel launchd: org.amanda.amandad: 7 more failures without 
living at least 60 seconds will cause job removal


trel:/var/log cssadmin$ uname -a
Darwin trel.wadsworth.org 8.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.8.0: Fri Sep  8 
17:18:57 PDT 2006; root:xnu-792.12.6.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc

On the client
amandad: build: VERSION="Amanda-2.4.5p1"

Should we use xinetd instead ?

TIA,

Brian
---
   Brian R Cuttler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Computer Systems Support(v) 518 486-1697
   Wadsworth Center(f) 518 473-6384
   NYS Department of HealthHelp Desk 518 473-0773