Re: lots of virus e-mails spam

2003-11-17 Thread Steven Clark
snip

(Seriously, though: can we shoot the people who send this
virus responder junk here? Or at least reject their mail
at amanda.org before it gets to the lists? Please?)
Well I am the admin of one of the irresponsible virus responders, which I 
will be whitelisting all the @amanda.org addresses when I get into the 
office on Monday. But in my defense the program is acting in the normal 
sense since no headers are being set letting MailScanner identify this 
email being from a mailling list...

Anyways sorry for the inconvience, no need to shoot me...

-Steve  



Re: lots of virus e-mails spam

2003-11-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 17 November 2003 02:57, Steven Clark wrote:
snip

(Seriously, though: can we shoot the people who send this
virus responder junk here? Or at least reject their mail
at amanda.org before it gets to the lists? Please?)

Well I am the admin of one of the irresponsible virus responders,
 which I will be whitelisting all the @amanda.org addresses when I
 get into the office on Monday. But in my defense the program is
 acting in the normal sense since no headers are being set letting
 MailScanner identify this email being from a mailling list...

Anyways sorry for the inconvience, no need to shoot me...

-Steve

Aww, gee Steve, you're taking all the fun out of it!  Besides, we need 
the target practice.  But frankly, what we'ed like to do is format 
the hard drives of the machines sending this crap.  Its p-poor 
maintainance that allows it to occur. :-)

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lots of virus e-mails spam

2003-11-16 Thread Willy Wittesaele
hello ,

it's now about 1 week that i'm subscribed to this list
because I just started using the amanda backup program
and this is the list that generates the most of spam and/or virusses

what's going on here ?

willy




Re: lots of virus e-mails spam

2003-11-16 Thread Phil Homewood
Willy Wittesaele wrote:
 it's now about 1 week that i'm subscribed to this list
 because I just started using the amanda backup program
 and this is the list that generates the most of spam and/or virusses

Ah, You want the amanda *backup* program. This appears to be the
Antisocial Misdirected Autoresponder Notification Dumping Archive.
I made the same mistake.

:-/

(Seriously, though: can we shoot the people who send this
virus responder junk here? Or at least reject their mail
at amanda.org before it gets to the lists? Please?)
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Re: lots of virus e-mails spam

2003-11-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 16 November 2003 17:18, Phil Homewood wrote:
Willy Wittesaele wrote:
 it's now about 1 week that i'm subscribed to this list
 because I just started using the amanda backup program
 and this is the list that generates the most of spam and/or
 virusses

Ah, You want the amanda *backup* program. This appears to be the
Antisocial Misdirected Autoresponder Notification Dumping Archive.
I made the same mistake.

:-/

(Seriously, though: can we shoot the people who send this
virus responder junk here? Or at least reject their mail
at amanda.org before it gets to the lists? Please?)

I'll second that motion.  One message a few hours ago was stripped of 
what I'd assume was a copy of swen, and that generated 5 more 
autoresponder replies to be deleted.

OTOH, all 6, after the stripping by whatever stripped it, were about 
130 kilobytes less than 1 copy of the virii, (140.5k) so we have a 
net gain in usable bandwidth.

They get in because this is an open list.  However, after the last few 
weeks I'd vote to close it, and allow read only of its archives for 
the general public, with write privs only to those subscribed.  No 
more trouble than it is to subscribe, and as quick as it can be done, 
I don't see a very good reason to keep it open to every spam spewer 
on the planet.

Oh, and I vote for the use of the 'shoot' option at least as a last 
resort.

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Re: lots of virus e-mails spam

2003-11-16 Thread Steve Lane
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 06:31:09PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
 I'll second that motion.  
---cut---
 They get in because this is an open list.  However, after the last few 
 weeks I'd vote to close it, and allow read only of its archives for 
 the general public, with write privs only to those subscribed.  No 
 more trouble than it is to subscribe, and as quick as it can be done, 
 I don't see a very good reason to keep it open to every spam spewer 
 on the planet.

Man, I second _that_ motion!!!

 Oh, and I vote for the use of the 'shoot' option at least as a last 
 resort.

First resort, anyone?


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Re: lots of virus e-mails spam

2003-11-16 Thread Josh Welch
Steve Lane wrote:
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 06:31:09PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:

I'll second that motion.  
---cut---

They get in because this is an open list.  However, after the last few 
weeks I'd vote to close it, and allow read only of its archives for 
the general public, with write privs only to those subscribed.  No 
more trouble than it is to subscribe, and as quick as it can be done, 
I don't see a very good reason to keep it open to every spam spewer 
on the planet.


Man, I second _that_ motion!!!


Oh, and I vote for the use of the 'shoot' option at least as a last 
resort.


First resort, anyone?

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It doesn't seem irrational to close the list to posting from subscribers 
only. Most of the lists I read these days require subscription for 
posting. You have to subscribe to read the list, and why would we want 
people posting who aren't interested in reading the list? It doesn't 
seem like it would be that much greater of a burden administratively 
speaking, so I don't know why it would be such a bad idea.

Of course, I don't run the list either, so its just me spewing electrons.

Josh



Re: lots of virus e-mails spam

2003-11-16 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 08:14:48PM -0600, Josh Welch wrote:
 
 It doesn't seem irrational to close the list to posting from subscribers 
 only. Most of the lists I read these days require subscription for 
 posting. You have to subscribe to read the list, 

Not really, you have to subscribe to get it delivered.
You can read it on yahoo and on marc.theaimsgroup.com
and maybe other archives.

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Re: lots of virus e-mails spam

2003-11-16 Thread Josh Welch
Jon LaBadie wrote:
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 08:14:48PM -0600, Josh Welch wrote:

It doesn't seem irrational to close the list to posting from subscribers 
only. Most of the lists I read these days require subscription for 
posting. You have to subscribe to read the list, 


Not really, you have to subscribe to get it delivered.
You can read it on yahoo and on marc.theaimsgroup.com
and maybe other archives.
Valid point, but I still think its not irrational to restrict posting to 
subscribers.

Josh



lots of virus e-mails spam

2003-11-16 Thread Willy Wittesaele
hello ,

it's now about 1 week that i'm subscribed to this list
because I just started using the amanda backup program
and this is the list that generates the most of spam and/or virusses

what's going on here ?

willy


Re: lots of virus e-mails spam

2003-11-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 16 November 2003 17:18, Phil Homewood wrote:
Willy Wittesaele wrote:
 it's now about 1 week that i'm subscribed to this list
 because I just started using the amanda backup program
 and this is the list that generates the most of spam and/or
 virusses

Ah, You want the amanda *backup* program. This appears to be the
Antisocial Misdirected Autoresponder Notification Dumping Archive.
I made the same mistake.

:-/

(Seriously, though: can we shoot the people who send this
virus responder junk here? Or at least reject their mail
at amanda.org before it gets to the lists? Please?)

I'll second that motion.  One message a few hours ago was stripped of 
what I'd assume was a copy of swen, and that generated 5 more 
autoresponder replies to be deleted.

OTOH, all 6, after the stripping by whatever stripped it, were about 
130 kilobytes less than 1 copy of the virii, (140.5k) so we have a 
net gain in usable bandwidth.

They get in because this is an open list.  However, after the last few 
weeks I'd vote to close it, and allow read only of its archives for 
the general public, with write privs only to those subscribed.  No 
more trouble than it is to subscribe, and as quick as it can be done, 
I don't see a very good reason to keep it open to every spam spewer 
on the planet.

Oh, and I vote for the use of the 'shoot' option at least as a last 
resort.

- -- 
Cheers, Gene
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]  512M
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