[PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency
Some ASIC support low-power functionality for the whole ASIC or just an IP block. When in such low-power mode, some sysfs interfaces would report a frequency of 0, e.g., $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk 0: 500Mhz 1: 0Mhz * 2: 2200Mhz $_ An operating frequency of 0 MHz doesn't make sense, and this interface is designed to report only operating clock frequencies, i.e. non-zero, and possibly the current one. When in this low-power state, round to the smallest operating frequency, for this interface, as follows, $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk 0: 500Mhz * 1: 2200Mhz $_ Luben Tuikov (5): drm/amd/pm: Slight function rename drm/amd/pm: Rename cur_value to curr_value drm/amd/pm: Rename freq_values --> freq_value dpm/amd/pm: Sienna: 0 MHz is not a current clock frequency dpm/amd/pm: Navi10: 0 MHz is not a current clock frequency .../gpu/drm/amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/navi10_ppt.c | 60 +-- .../amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/sienna_cichlid_ppt.c | 73 --- 2 files changed, 86 insertions(+), 47 deletions(-) -- 2.33.1.558.g2bd2f258f4
Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency
On 10/13/2021 8:40 AM, Luben Tuikov wrote: Some ASIC support low-power functionality for the whole ASIC or just an IP block. When in such low-power mode, some sysfs interfaces would report a frequency of 0, e.g., $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk 0: 500Mhz 1: 0Mhz * 2: 2200Mhz $_ An operating frequency of 0 MHz doesn't make sense, and this interface is designed to report only operating clock frequencies, i.e. non-zero, and possibly the current one. When in this low-power state, round to the smallest operating frequency, for this interface, as follows, Would rather avoid this - 1) It is manipulating FW reported value. If at all there is an uncaught issue in FW reporting of frequency values, that is masked here. 2) Otherwise, if 0MHz is described as GFX power gated case, this provides a convenient interface to check if GFX is power gated. If seeing a '0' is not pleasing, consider changing to something like "NA" - not available (frequency cannot be fetched at the moment). Thanks, Lijo $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk 0: 500Mhz * 1: 2200Mhz $_ Luben Tuikov (5): drm/amd/pm: Slight function rename drm/amd/pm: Rename cur_value to curr_value drm/amd/pm: Rename freq_values --> freq_value dpm/amd/pm: Sienna: 0 MHz is not a current clock frequency dpm/amd/pm: Navi10: 0 MHz is not a current clock frequency .../gpu/drm/amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/navi10_ppt.c | 60 +-- .../amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/sienna_cichlid_ppt.c | 73 --- 2 files changed, 86 insertions(+), 47 deletions(-)
RE: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency
[AMD Official Use Only] I agree with Lijo. Reporting a "round to the smallest operating frequency" just makes user more confusing. As per designed, the frequency marked with "*" should reflect the current clock frequency. BR Evan > -Original Message- > From: amd-gfx On Behalf Of > Lazar, Lijo > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 12:14 PM > To: Tuikov, Luben ; amd- > g...@lists.freedesktop.org > Cc: Deucher, Alexander > Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency > > > > On 10/13/2021 8:40 AM, Luben Tuikov wrote: > > Some ASIC support low-power functionality for the whole ASIC or just > > an IP block. When in such low-power mode, some sysfs interfaces would > > report a frequency of 0, e.g., > > > > $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk > > 0: 500Mhz > > 1: 0Mhz * > > 2: 2200Mhz > > $_ > > > > An operating frequency of 0 MHz doesn't make sense, and this interface > > is designed to report only operating clock frequencies, i.e. non-zero, > > and possibly the current one. > > > > When in this low-power state, round to the smallest operating > > frequency, for this interface, as follows, > > > > Would rather avoid this - > > 1) It is manipulating FW reported value. If at all there is an uncaught issue > in > FW reporting of frequency values, that is masked here. > 2) Otherwise, if 0MHz is described as GFX power gated case, this provides a > convenient interface to check if GFX is power gated. > > If seeing a '0' is not pleasing, consider changing to something like > "NA" - not available (frequency cannot be fetched at the moment). > > Thanks, > Lijo > > > $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk > > 0: 500Mhz * > > 1: 2200Mhz > > $_ > > > > Luben Tuikov (5): > >drm/amd/pm: Slight function rename > >drm/amd/pm: Rename cur_value to curr_value > >drm/amd/pm: Rename freq_values --> freq_value > >dpm/amd/pm: Sienna: 0 MHz is not a current clock frequency > >dpm/amd/pm: Navi10: 0 MHz is not a current clock frequency > > > > .../gpu/drm/amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/navi10_ppt.c | 60 +-- > > .../amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/sienna_cichlid_ppt.c | 73 - > -- > > 2 files changed, 86 insertions(+), 47 deletions(-) > >
Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency
On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 12:14 AM Lazar, Lijo wrote: > > > > On 10/13/2021 8:40 AM, Luben Tuikov wrote: > > Some ASIC support low-power functionality for the whole ASIC or just > > an IP block. When in such low-power mode, some sysfs interfaces would > > report a frequency of 0, e.g., > > > > $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk > > 0: 500Mhz > > 1: 0Mhz * > > 2: 2200Mhz > > $_ > > > > An operating frequency of 0 MHz doesn't make sense, and this interface > > is designed to report only operating clock frequencies, i.e. non-zero, > > and possibly the current one. > > > > When in this low-power state, round to the smallest > > operating frequency, for this interface, as follows, > > > > Would rather avoid this - > > 1) It is manipulating FW reported value. If at all there is an uncaught > issue in FW reporting of frequency values, that is masked here. > 2) Otherwise, if 0MHz is described as GFX power gated case, this > provides a convenient interface to check if GFX is power gated. > > If seeing a '0' is not pleasing, consider changing to something like > "NA" - not available (frequency cannot be fetched at the moment). > I don't think this interface is really supposed to be the way to get the current clock, although some use it that way. It's supposed to show the DPM states and which are active. conflating the interface with other information confuses things in my opinion. Why is the current clock less than the minimum clock? Whether or not an IP is turned off or in deep sleep or not is independent of DPM states. When the IP is active, it will never go below the minimum DPM level. If we want to query deep sleep or gfxoff we can use the amdgpu_pm_info debugfs interface or add some other new interface. Alex > Thanks, > Lijo > > > $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk > > 0: 500Mhz * > > 1: 2200Mhz > > $_ > > > > Luben Tuikov (5): > >drm/amd/pm: Slight function rename > >drm/amd/pm: Rename cur_value to curr_value > >drm/amd/pm: Rename freq_values --> freq_value > >dpm/amd/pm: Sienna: 0 MHz is not a current clock frequency > >dpm/amd/pm: Navi10: 0 MHz is not a current clock frequency > > > > .../gpu/drm/amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/navi10_ppt.c | 60 +-- > > .../amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/sienna_cichlid_ppt.c | 73 --- > > 2 files changed, 86 insertions(+), 47 deletions(-) > >
Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency
On 10/13/2021 7:28 PM, Alex Deucher wrote: On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 12:14 AM Lazar, Lijo wrote: On 10/13/2021 8:40 AM, Luben Tuikov wrote: Some ASIC support low-power functionality for the whole ASIC or just an IP block. When in such low-power mode, some sysfs interfaces would report a frequency of 0, e.g., $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk 0: 500Mhz 1: 0Mhz * 2: 2200Mhz $_ An operating frequency of 0 MHz doesn't make sense, and this interface is designed to report only operating clock frequencies, i.e. non-zero, and possibly the current one. When in this low-power state, round to the smallest operating frequency, for this interface, as follows, Would rather avoid this - 1) It is manipulating FW reported value. If at all there is an uncaught issue in FW reporting of frequency values, that is masked here. 2) Otherwise, if 0MHz is described as GFX power gated case, this provides a convenient interface to check if GFX is power gated. If seeing a '0' is not pleasing, consider changing to something like "NA" - not available (frequency cannot be fetched at the moment). I don't think this interface is really supposed to be the way to get the current clock, although some use it that way. It's supposed to show the DPM states and which are active. conflating the interface with other information confuses things in my opinion. Why is the current clock less than the minimum clock? Whether or not an IP is turned off or in deep sleep or not is independent of DPM states. When the IP is active, it will never go below the minimum DPM level. If we want to query deep sleep or gfxoff we can use the amdgpu_pm_info debugfs interface or add some other new interface. The idea of DPM level is deprecated with fine grained clock which provides only min and max. For fine grained clock, we fetch the current clock frequency and show it as an artificial DPM level between min/max. That itself should have confused users but it is not which means the users use the * to fetch the current frequency and not really bothered about the DPM level per se. Also, some ASICs define 'min' as as the least possible freq (that happens during a throttle) and not the DPM level 0 min in the traditional sense (that is defined as idle frequency which doesn't come into min/max levels). It's usually from the idle frequency that GFX gets power gated. Showing a * against min in such cases would be confusing because that could be misinterpreted as a throttle scenario. Thanks, Lijo Alex Thanks, Lijo $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk 0: 500Mhz * 1: 2200Mhz $_ Luben Tuikov (5): drm/amd/pm: Slight function rename drm/amd/pm: Rename cur_value to curr_value drm/amd/pm: Rename freq_values --> freq_value dpm/amd/pm: Sienna: 0 MHz is not a current clock frequency dpm/amd/pm: Navi10: 0 MHz is not a current clock frequency .../gpu/drm/amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/navi10_ppt.c | 60 +-- .../amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/sienna_cichlid_ppt.c | 73 --- 2 files changed, 86 insertions(+), 47 deletions(-)
[PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency (v2)
Some ASIC support low-power functionality for the whole ASIC or just an IP block. When in such low-power mode, some sysfs interfaces would report a frequency of 0, e.g., $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk 0: 500Mhz 1: 0Mhz * 2: 2200Mhz $_ An operating frequency of 0 MHz doesn't make sense, and this interface is designed to report only operating clock frequencies, i.e. non-zero, and possibly the current one. When in this low-power state, round to the smallest operating frequency, for this interface, as follows, $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk 0: 500Mhz * 1: 2200Mhz $_ v2: Fix description to reflect change in patch 1--add an 's'. Luben Tuikov (5): drm/amd/pm: Slight function rename (v2) drm/amd/pm: Rename cur_value to curr_value drm/amd/pm: Rename freq_values --> freq_value dpm/amd/pm: Sienna: 0 MHz is not a current clock frequency dpm/amd/pm: Navi10: 0 MHz is not a current clock frequency .../gpu/drm/amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/navi10_ppt.c | 60 +-- .../amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/sienna_cichlid_ppt.c | 73 --- 2 files changed, 86 insertions(+), 47 deletions(-) -- 2.33.1.558.g2bd2f258f4
Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency
On 2021-10-13 00:14, Lazar, Lijo wrote: > > On 10/13/2021 8:40 AM, Luben Tuikov wrote: >> Some ASIC support low-power functionality for the whole ASIC or just >> an IP block. When in such low-power mode, some sysfs interfaces would >> report a frequency of 0, e.g., >> >> $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk >> 0: 500Mhz >> 1: 0Mhz * >> 2: 2200Mhz >> $_ >> >> An operating frequency of 0 MHz doesn't make sense, and this interface >> is designed to report only operating clock frequencies, i.e. non-zero, >> and possibly the current one. >> >> When in this low-power state, round to the smallest >> operating frequency, for this interface, as follows, >> > Would rather avoid this - > > 1) It is manipulating FW reported value. If at all there is an uncaught > issue in FW reporting of frequency values, that is masked here. > 2) Otherwise, if 0MHz is described as GFX power gated case, this > provides a convenient interface to check if GFX is power gated. > > If seeing a '0' is not pleasing, consider changing to something like > "NA" - not available (frequency cannot be fetched at the moment). There's a ROCm tool which literally asserts if the values are not ordered in increasing order. Now since 0 < 550, but 0 is listed as the second entry, the tool simply asserts and crashes. It is not clear what you'd rather see here: $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk 0: 550Mhz 1: N/A * 2: 2200MHz $_ Is this what you want to see? (That'll crash other tools which expect %uMhz.) Or maybe just a list without default hint, i.e. no asterisk? $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk 0: 550Mhz 1: 2200MHz $_ What should the output be? We want to avoid showing 0, but still show numbers. Regards, Luben > > Thanks, > Lijo > >> $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk >> 0: 500Mhz * >> 1: 2200Mhz >> $_ >> >> Luben Tuikov (5): >>drm/amd/pm: Slight function rename >>drm/amd/pm: Rename cur_value to curr_value >>drm/amd/pm: Rename freq_values --> freq_value >>dpm/amd/pm: Sienna: 0 MHz is not a current clock frequency >>dpm/amd/pm: Navi10: 0 MHz is not a current clock frequency >> >> .../gpu/drm/amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/navi10_ppt.c | 60 +-- >> .../amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/sienna_cichlid_ppt.c | 73 --- >> 2 files changed, 86 insertions(+), 47 deletions(-) >>
Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency
[AMD Official Use Only] >Or maybe just a list without default hint, i.e. no asterisk? I think this is also fine meaning we are having trouble in determining the current frequency or DPM level. Evan/Alex? Don't know if this will crash the tools. Thanks, Lijo From: Tuikov, Luben Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 9:52:09 PM To: Lazar, Lijo ; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org Cc: Deucher, Alexander Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency On 2021-10-13 00:14, Lazar, Lijo wrote: > > On 10/13/2021 8:40 AM, Luben Tuikov wrote: >> Some ASIC support low-power functionality for the whole ASIC or just >> an IP block. When in such low-power mode, some sysfs interfaces would >> report a frequency of 0, e.g., >> >> $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk >> 0: 500Mhz >> 1: 0Mhz * >> 2: 2200Mhz >> $_ >> >> An operating frequency of 0 MHz doesn't make sense, and this interface >> is designed to report only operating clock frequencies, i.e. non-zero, >> and possibly the current one. >> >> When in this low-power state, round to the smallest >> operating frequency, for this interface, as follows, >> > Would rather avoid this - > > 1) It is manipulating FW reported value. If at all there is an uncaught > issue in FW reporting of frequency values, that is masked here. > 2) Otherwise, if 0MHz is described as GFX power gated case, this > provides a convenient interface to check if GFX is power gated. > > If seeing a '0' is not pleasing, consider changing to something like >"NA" - not available (frequency cannot be fetched at the moment). There's a ROCm tool which literally asserts if the values are not ordered in increasing order. Now since 0 < 550, but 0 is listed as the second entry, the tool simply asserts and crashes. It is not clear what you'd rather see here: $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk 0: 550Mhz 1: N/A * 2: 2200MHz $_ Is this what you want to see? (That'll crash other tools which expect %uMhz.) Or maybe just a list without default hint, i.e. no asterisk? $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk 0: 550Mhz 1: 2200MHz $_ What should the output be? We want to avoid showing 0, but still show numbers. Regards, Luben > > Thanks, > Lijo > >> $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk >> 0: 500Mhz * >> 1: 2200Mhz >> $_ >> >> Luben Tuikov (5): >>drm/amd/pm: Slight function rename >>drm/amd/pm: Rename cur_value to curr_value >>drm/amd/pm: Rename freq_values --> freq_value >>dpm/amd/pm: Sienna: 0 MHz is not a current clock frequency >>dpm/amd/pm: Navi10: 0 MHz is not a current clock frequency >> >> .../gpu/drm/amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/navi10_ppt.c | 60 +-- >> .../amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/sienna_cichlid_ppt.c | 73 --- >> 2 files changed, 86 insertions(+), 47 deletions(-) >>
Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency
On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 1:06 PM Lazar, Lijo wrote: > > [AMD Official Use Only] > > > >Or maybe just a list without default hint, i.e. no asterisk? > > I think this is also fine meaning we are having trouble in determining the > current frequency or DPM level. Evan/Alex? Don't know if this will crash the > tools. > That seems reasonable to me. Alex > Thanks, > Lijo > > From: Tuikov, Luben > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 9:52:09 PM > To: Lazar, Lijo ; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org > > Cc: Deucher, Alexander > Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency > > On 2021-10-13 00:14, Lazar, Lijo wrote: > > > > On 10/13/2021 8:40 AM, Luben Tuikov wrote: > >> Some ASIC support low-power functionality for the whole ASIC or just > >> an IP block. When in such low-power mode, some sysfs interfaces would > >> report a frequency of 0, e.g., > >> > >> $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk > >> 0: 500Mhz > >> 1: 0Mhz * > >> 2: 2200Mhz > >> $_ > >> > >> An operating frequency of 0 MHz doesn't make sense, and this interface > >> is designed to report only operating clock frequencies, i.e. non-zero, > >> and possibly the current one. > >> > >> When in this low-power state, round to the smallest > >> operating frequency, for this interface, as follows, > >> > > Would rather avoid this - > > > > 1) It is manipulating FW reported value. If at all there is an uncaught > > issue in FW reporting of frequency values, that is masked here. > > 2) Otherwise, if 0MHz is described as GFX power gated case, this > > provides a convenient interface to check if GFX is power gated. > > > > If seeing a '0' is not pleasing, consider changing to something like > >"NA" - not available (frequency cannot be fetched at the moment). > > There's a ROCm tool which literally asserts if the values are not ordered in > increasing order. Now since 0 < 550, but 0 is listed as the second entry, the > tool simply asserts and crashes. > > It is not clear what you'd rather see here: > > $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk > 0: 550Mhz > 1: N/A * > 2: 2200MHz > $_ > > Is this what you want to see? (That'll crash other tools which expect %uMhz.) > > Or maybe just a list without default hint, i.e. no asterisk? > > $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk > 0: 550Mhz > 1: 2200MHz > $_ > > What should the output be? > > We want to avoid showing 0, but still show numbers. > > Regards, > Luben > > > > > Thanks, > > Lijo > > > >> $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk > >> 0: 500Mhz * > >> 1: 2200Mhz > >> $_ > >> > >> Luben Tuikov (5): > >>drm/amd/pm: Slight function rename > >>drm/amd/pm: Rename cur_value to curr_value > >>drm/amd/pm: Rename freq_values --> freq_value > >>dpm/amd/pm: Sienna: 0 MHz is not a current clock frequency > >>dpm/amd/pm: Navi10: 0 MHz is not a current clock frequency > >> > >> .../gpu/drm/amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/navi10_ppt.c | 60 +-- > >> .../amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/sienna_cichlid_ppt.c | 73 --- > >> 2 files changed, 86 insertions(+), 47 deletions(-) > >> >
[PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency (v3)
Some ASICs support low-power functionality for the whole ASIC or just an IP block. When in such low-power mode, some sysfs interfaces would report a frequency of 0, e.g., $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk 0: 500Mhz 1: 0Mhz * 2: 2200Mhz $_ An operating frequency of 0 MHz doesn't make sense, and this interface is designed to report only operating clock frequencies, i.e. non-zero, and possibly the current one. When in this low-power state, round to the smallest operating frequency, for this interface, as follows, $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk 0: 500Mhz * 1: 2200Mhz $_ v2: Fix description to reflect change in patch 1--add an 's'. v3: Don't tag a current if current is 0. Luben Tuikov (5): drm/amd/pm: Slight function rename (v2) drm/amd/pm: Rename cur_value to curr_value drm/amd/pm: Rename freq_values --> freq_value dpm/amd/pm: Sienna: 0 MHz is not a current clock frequency (v2) dpm/amd/pm: Navi10: 0 MHz is not a current clock frequency (v2) .../gpu/drm/amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/navi10_ppt.c | 57 -- .../amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/sienna_cichlid_ppt.c | 74 --- 2 files changed, 83 insertions(+), 48 deletions(-) base-commit: b81c53cdbe1482b1f4013ba7a41bca2174cde109 -- 2.33.1.558.g2bd2f258f4
RE: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency
[AMD Official Use Only] +Kent who maintains the Rocm tool From: amd-gfx On Behalf Of Lazar, Lijo Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 1:07 AM To: Tuikov, Luben ; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org Cc: Deucher, Alexander Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency [AMD Official Use Only] [AMD Official Use Only] >Or maybe just a list without default hint, i.e. no asterisk? I think this is also fine meaning we are having trouble in determining the current frequency or DPM level. Evan/Alex? Don't know if this will crash the tools. Thanks, Lijo From: Tuikov, Luben mailto:luben.tui...@amd.com>> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 9:52:09 PM To: Lazar, Lijo mailto:lijo.la...@amd.com>>; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org<mailto:amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org> mailto:amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>> Cc: Deucher, Alexander mailto:alexander.deuc...@amd.com>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency On 2021-10-13 00:14, Lazar, Lijo wrote: > > On 10/13/2021 8:40 AM, Luben Tuikov wrote: >> Some ASIC support low-power functionality for the whole ASIC or just >> an IP block. When in such low-power mode, some sysfs interfaces would >> report a frequency of 0, e.g., >> >> $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk >> 0: 500Mhz >> 1: 0Mhz * >> 2: 2200Mhz >> $_ >> >> An operating frequency of 0 MHz doesn't make sense, and this interface >> is designed to report only operating clock frequencies, i.e. non-zero, >> and possibly the current one. >> >> When in this low-power state, round to the smallest >> operating frequency, for this interface, as follows, >> > Would rather avoid this - > > 1) It is manipulating FW reported value. If at all there is an uncaught > issue in FW reporting of frequency values, that is masked here. > 2) Otherwise, if 0MHz is described as GFX power gated case, this > provides a convenient interface to check if GFX is power gated. > > If seeing a '0' is not pleasing, consider changing to something like >"NA" - not available (frequency cannot be fetched at the moment). There's a ROCm tool which literally asserts if the values are not ordered in increasing order. Now since 0 < 550, but 0 is listed as the second entry, the tool simply asserts and crashes. It is not clear what you'd rather see here: $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk 0: 550Mhz 1: N/A * 2: 2200MHz $_ Is this what you want to see? (That'll crash other tools which expect %uMhz.) Or maybe just a list without default hint, i.e. no asterisk? $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk 0: 550Mhz 1: 2200MHz $_ What should the output be? We want to avoid showing 0, but still show numbers. Regards, Luben > > Thanks, > Lijo > >> $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk >> 0: 500Mhz * >> 1: 2200Mhz >> $_ >> >> Luben Tuikov (5): >>drm/amd/pm: Slight function rename >>drm/amd/pm: Rename cur_value to curr_value >>drm/amd/pm: Rename freq_values --> freq_value >>dpm/amd/pm: Sienna: 0 MHz is not a current clock frequency >>dpm/amd/pm: Navi10: 0 MHz is not a current clock frequency >> >> .../gpu/drm/amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/navi10_ppt.c | 60 +-- >> .../amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/sienna_cichlid_ppt.c | 73 --- >> 2 files changed, 86 insertions(+), 47 deletions(-) >>
Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency
[Public] We the current behavior (0 for clock) already crashes the tool, so I don't think we can really make things worse. Alex From: Quan, Evan Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 10:25 PM To: Lazar, Lijo ; Tuikov, Luben ; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org ; Russell, Kent Cc: Deucher, Alexander Subject: RE: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency [AMD Official Use Only] +Kent who maintains the Rocm tool From: amd-gfx On Behalf Of Lazar, Lijo Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 1:07 AM To: Tuikov, Luben ; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org Cc: Deucher, Alexander Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency [AMD Official Use Only] [AMD Official Use Only] >Or maybe just a list without default hint, i.e. no asterisk? I think this is also fine meaning we are having trouble in determining the current frequency or DPM level. Evan/Alex? Don't know if this will crash the tools. Thanks, Lijo From: Tuikov, Luben mailto:luben.tui...@amd.com>> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 9:52:09 PM To: Lazar, Lijo mailto:lijo.la...@amd.com>>; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org<mailto:amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org> mailto:amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>> Cc: Deucher, Alexander mailto:alexander.deuc...@amd.com>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency On 2021-10-13 00:14, Lazar, Lijo wrote: > > On 10/13/2021 8:40 AM, Luben Tuikov wrote: >> Some ASIC support low-power functionality for the whole ASIC or just >> an IP block. When in such low-power mode, some sysfs interfaces would >> report a frequency of 0, e.g., >> >> $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk >> 0: 500Mhz >> 1: 0Mhz * >> 2: 2200Mhz >> $_ >> >> An operating frequency of 0 MHz doesn't make sense, and this interface >> is designed to report only operating clock frequencies, i.e. non-zero, >> and possibly the current one. >> >> When in this low-power state, round to the smallest >> operating frequency, for this interface, as follows, >> > Would rather avoid this - > > 1) It is manipulating FW reported value. If at all there is an uncaught > issue in FW reporting of frequency values, that is masked here. > 2) Otherwise, if 0MHz is described as GFX power gated case, this > provides a convenient interface to check if GFX is power gated. > > If seeing a '0' is not pleasing, consider changing to something like >"NA" - not available (frequency cannot be fetched at the moment). There's a ROCm tool which literally asserts if the values are not ordered in increasing order. Now since 0 < 550, but 0 is listed as the second entry, the tool simply asserts and crashes. It is not clear what you'd rather see here: $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk 0: 550Mhz 1: N/A * 2: 2200MHz $_ Is this what you want to see? (That'll crash other tools which expect %uMhz.) Or maybe just a list without default hint, i.e. no asterisk? $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk 0: 550Mhz 1: 2200MHz $_ What should the output be? We want to avoid showing 0, but still show numbers. Regards, Luben > > Thanks, > Lijo > >> $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk >> 0: 500Mhz * >> 1: 2200Mhz >> $_ >> >> Luben Tuikov (5): >>drm/amd/pm: Slight function rename >>drm/amd/pm: Rename cur_value to curr_value >>drm/amd/pm: Rename freq_values --> freq_value >>dpm/amd/pm: Sienna: 0 MHz is not a current clock frequency >>dpm/amd/pm: Navi10: 0 MHz is not a current clock frequency >> >> .../gpu/drm/amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/navi10_ppt.c | 60 +-- >> .../amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/sienna_cichlid_ppt.c | 73 --- >> 2 files changed, 86 insertions(+), 47 deletions(-) >>
Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency
I think Kent is already seen these patches as he did comment on 1/5 patch. The v3 version of the patch, posted last week, removes the asterisk to report the lowest frequency as the current frequency, when the current frequency is 0, i.e. when the block is in low power state. Does the tool rely on the asterisk? If this information is necessary could it not use amdgpu_pm_info? Regards, Luben On 2021-10-18 16:19, Deucher, Alexander wrote: [Public] We the current behavior (0 for clock) already crashes the tool, so I don't think we can really make things worse. Alex From: Quan, Evan Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 10:25 PM To: Lazar, Lijo ; Tuikov, Luben ; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org ; Russell, Kent Cc: Deucher, Alexander Subject: RE: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency [AMD Official Use Only] +Kent who maintains the Rocm tool From: amd-gfx On Behalf Of Lazar, Lijo Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 1:07 AM To: Tuikov, Luben ; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org Cc: Deucher, Alexander Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency [AMD Official Use Only] [AMD Official Use Only] >Or maybe just a list without default hint, i.e. no asterisk? I think this is also fine meaning we are having trouble in determining the current frequency or DPM level. Evan/Alex? Don't know if this will crash the tools. Thanks, Lijo From: Tuikov, Luben <luben.tui...@amd.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 9:52:09 PM To: Lazar, Lijo <lijo.la...@amd.com>; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org <amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org> Cc: Deucher, Alexander <alexander.deuc...@amd.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency On 2021-10-13 00:14, Lazar, Lijo wrote: > > On 10/13/2021 8:40 AM, Luben Tuikov wrote: >> Some ASIC support low-power functionality for the whole ASIC or just >> an IP block. When in such low-power mode, some sysfs interfaces would >> report a frequency of 0, e.g., >> >> $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk >> 0: 500Mhz >> 1: 0Mhz * >> 2: 2200Mhz >> $_ >> >> An operating frequency of 0 MHz doesn't make sense, and this interface >> is designed to report only operating clock frequencies, i.e. non-zero, >> and possibly the current one. >> >> When in this low-power state, round to the smallest >> operating frequency, for this interface, as follows, >> > Would rather avoid t
RE: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency
[AMD Official Use Only] +Harish, rocm-smi falls under his purview now. Kent From: Tuikov, Luben Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 4:30 PM To: Deucher, Alexander ; Quan, Evan ; Lazar, Lijo ; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org; Russell, Kent Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency I think Kent is already seen these patches as he did comment on 1/5 patch. The v3 version of the patch, posted last week, removes the asterisk to report the lowest frequency as the current frequency, when the current frequency is 0, i.e. when the block is in low power state. Does the tool rely on the asterisk? If this information is necessary could it not use amdgpu_pm_info? Regards, Luben On 2021-10-18 16:19, Deucher, Alexander wrote: [Public] We the current behavior (0 for clock) already crashes the tool, so I don't think we can really make things worse. Alex From: Quan, Evan <mailto:evan.q...@amd.com> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 10:25 PM To: Lazar, Lijo <mailto:lijo.la...@amd.com>; Tuikov, Luben <mailto:luben.tui...@amd.com>; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org<mailto:amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org> <mailto:amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>; Russell, Kent <mailto:kent.russ...@amd.com> Cc: Deucher, Alexander <mailto:alexander.deuc...@amd.com> Subject: RE: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency [AMD Official Use Only] +Kent who maintains the Rocm tool From: amd-gfx <mailto:amd-gfx-boun...@lists.freedesktop.org> On Behalf Of Lazar, Lijo Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 1:07 AM To: Tuikov, Luben <mailto:luben.tui...@amd.com>; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org<mailto:amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org> Cc: Deucher, Alexander <mailto:alexander.deuc...@amd.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency [AMD Official Use Only] [AMD Official Use Only] >Or maybe just a list without default hint, i.e. no asterisk? I think this is also fine meaning we are having trouble in determining the current frequency or DPM level. Evan/Alex? Don't know if this will crash the tools. Thanks, Lijo From: Tuikov, Luben mailto:luben.tui...@amd.com>> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 9:52:09 PM To: Lazar, Lijo mailto:lijo.la...@amd.com>>; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org<mailto:amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org> mailto:amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>> Cc: Deucher, Alexander mailto:alexander.deuc...@amd.com>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency On 2021-10-13 00:14, Lazar, Lijo wrote: > > On 10/13/2021 8:40 AM, Luben Tuikov wrote: >> Some ASIC support low-power functionality for the whole ASIC or just >> an IP block. When in such low-power mode, some sysfs interfaces would >> report a frequency of 0, e.g., >> >> $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk >> 0: 500Mhz >> 1: 0Mhz * >> 2: 2200Mhz >> $_ >> >> An operating frequency of 0 MHz doesn't make sense, and this interface >> is designed to report only operating clock frequencies, i.e. non-zero, >> and possibly the current one. >> >> When in this low-power state, round to the smallest >> operating frequency, for this interface, as follows, >> > Would rather avoid this - > > 1) It is manipulating FW reported value. If at all there is an uncaught > issue in FW reporting of frequency values, that is masked here. > 2) Otherwise, if 0MHz is described as GFX power gated case, this > provides a convenient interface to check if GFX is power gated. > > If seeing a '0' is not pleasing, consider changing to something like >"NA" - not available (frequency cannot be fetched at the moment). There's a ROCm tool which literally asserts if the values are not ordered in increasing order. Now since 0 < 550, but 0 is listed as the second entry, the tool simply asserts and crashes. It is not clear what you'd rather see here: $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk 0: 550Mhz 1: N/A * 2: 2200MHz $_ Is this what you want to see? (That'll crash other tools which expect %uMhz.) Or maybe just a list without default hint, i.e. no asterisk? $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk 0: 550Mhz 1: 2200MHz $_ What should the output be? We want to avoid showing 0, but still show numbers. Regards, Luben > > Thanks, > Lijo > >> $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk >> 0: 500Mhz * >> 1: 2200Mhz >> $_ >> >> Luben Tuikov (5): >>drm/amd/pm: Slight function rename >>drm/amd/pm: Rename cur_value to curr_value >>drm/amd/pm: Rename freq_values --> freq_value >>dpm/amd/pm: Sienna: 0 MHz is not a current clock frequency >>dpm/amd/pm: Navi10: 0 MHz is not a current clock frequency >> >> .../gpu/drm/amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/navi10_ppt.c | 60 +-- >> .../amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/sienna_cichlid_ppt.c | 73 --- >> 2 files changed, 86 insertions(+), 47 deletions(-) >>
RE: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency
[AMD Official Use Only] The * is required for the rocm-smi's functionality for showing what the current clocks are. We had a bug before where the * was removed, then the SMI died fantastically. Work could be done to try to handle that type of situation, but the SMI has a "show current clocks" and uses the * to determine which one is active Kent From: amd-gfx On Behalf Of Russell, Kent Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 9:05 PM To: Tuikov, Luben ; Deucher, Alexander ; Quan, Evan ; Lazar, Lijo ; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org Cc: Kasiviswanathan, Harish Subject: RE: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency [AMD Official Use Only] +Harish, rocm-smi falls under his purview now. Kent From: Tuikov, Luben mailto:luben.tui...@amd.com>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 4:30 PM To: Deucher, Alexander mailto:alexander.deuc...@amd.com>>; Quan, Evan mailto:evan.q...@amd.com>>; Lazar, Lijo mailto:lijo.la...@amd.com>>; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org<mailto:amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>; Russell, Kent mailto:kent.russ...@amd.com>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency I think Kent is already seen these patches as he did comment on 1/5 patch. The v3 version of the patch, posted last week, removes the asterisk to report the lowest frequency as the current frequency, when the current frequency is 0, i.e. when the block is in low power state. Does the tool rely on the asterisk? If this information is necessary could it not use amdgpu_pm_info? Regards, Luben On 2021-10-18 16:19, Deucher, Alexander wrote: [Public] We the current behavior (0 for clock) already crashes the tool, so I don't think we can really make things worse. Alex From: Quan, Evan <mailto:evan.q...@amd.com> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 10:25 PM To: Lazar, Lijo <mailto:lijo.la...@amd.com>; Tuikov, Luben <mailto:luben.tui...@amd.com>; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org<mailto:amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org> <mailto:amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>; Russell, Kent <mailto:kent.russ...@amd.com> Cc: Deucher, Alexander <mailto:alexander.deuc...@amd.com> Subject: RE: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency [AMD Official Use Only] +Kent who maintains the Rocm tool From: amd-gfx <mailto:amd-gfx-boun...@lists.freedesktop.org> On Behalf Of Lazar, Lijo Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 1:07 AM To: Tuikov, Luben <mailto:luben.tui...@amd.com>; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org<mailto:amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org> Cc: Deucher, Alexander <mailto:alexander.deuc...@amd.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency [AMD Official Use Only] [AMD Official Use Only] >Or maybe just a list without default hint, i.e. no asterisk? I think this is also fine meaning we are having trouble in determining the current frequency or DPM level. Evan/Alex? Don't know if this will crash the tools. Thanks, Lijo From: Tuikov, Luben mailto:luben.tui...@amd.com>> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 9:52:09 PM To: Lazar, Lijo mailto:lijo.la...@amd.com>>; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org<mailto:amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org> mailto:amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>> Cc: Deucher, Alexander mailto:alexander.deuc...@amd.com>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency On 2021-10-13 00:14, Lazar, Lijo wrote: > > On 10/13/2021 8:40 AM, Luben Tuikov wrote: >> Some ASIC support low-power functionality for the whole ASIC or just >> an IP block. When in such low-power mode, some sysfs interfaces would >> report a frequency of 0, e.g., >> >> $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk >> 0: 500Mhz >> 1: 0Mhz * >> 2: 2200Mhz >> $_ >> >> An operating frequency of 0 MHz doesn't make sense, and this interface >> is designed to report only operating clock frequencies, i.e. non-zero, >> and possibly the current one. >> >> When in this low-power state, round to the smallest >> operating frequency, for this interface, as follows, >> > Would rather avoid this - > > 1) It is manipulating FW reported value. If at all there is an uncaught > issue in FW reporting of frequency values, that is masked here. > 2) Otherwise, if 0MHz is described as GFX power gated case, this > provides a convenient interface to check if GFX is power gated. > > If seeing a '0' is not pleasing, consider changing to something like >"NA" - not available (frequency cannot be fetched at the moment). There's a ROCm tool which literally asserts if the values are not ordered in increasing order. Now since 0 < 550, but 0 is listed as the second entry, the tool simply asserts and crashes. It is not clear what you'
Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency
Kent, What is the command which fails? I can try to duplicate it here. So far, things I've tried, I cannot make rocm-smi fail. Command arguments? Regards, Luben On 2021-10-18 21:06, Russell, Kent wrote: [AMD Official Use Only] The * is required for the rocm-smi’s functionality for showing what the current clocks are. We had a bug before where the * was removed, then the SMI died fantastically. Work could be done to try to handle that type of situation, but the SMI has a “show current clocks” and uses the * to determine which one is active Kent From: amd-gfx On Behalf Of Russell, Kent Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 9:05 PM To: Tuikov, Luben ; Deucher, Alexander ; Quan, Evan ; Lazar, Lijo ; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org Cc: Kasiviswanathan, Harish Subject: RE: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency [AMD Official Use Only] +Harish, rocm-smi falls under his purview now. Kent From: Tuikov, Luben <luben.tui...@amd.com> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 4:30 PM To: Deucher, Alexander <alexander.deuc...@amd.com>; Quan, Evan <evan.q...@amd.com>; Lazar, Lijo <lijo.la...@amd.com>; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org; Russell, Kent <kent.russ...@amd.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency I think Kent is already seen these patches as he did comment on 1/5 patch. The v3 version of the patch, posted last week, removes the asterisk to report the lowest frequency as the current frequency, when the current frequency is 0, i.e. when the block is in low power state. Does the tool rely on the asterisk? If this information is necessary could it not use amdgpu_pm_info? Regards, Luben On 2021-10-18 16:19, Deucher, Alexander wrote: [Public] We the current behavior (0 for clock) already crashes the tool, so I don't think we can really make things worse. Alex From: Quan, Evan Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 10:25 PM To: Lazar, Lijo ; Tuikov, Luben ; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org ; Russell, Kent Cc: Deucher, Alexander Subject: RE: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency [AMD Official Use Only] +Kent who maintains the Rocm tool From: amd-gfx On Behalf Of Lazar, Lijo Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 1:07 AM To: Tuikov, Luben ; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org Cc: Deucher, Alexander Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency [AMD
RE: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency
[AMD Official Use Only] It was the rocm-smi -c flag. Maybe some work was done to make it more robust, that would be nice. But the -c flag is supposed to show the current frequency for each clock type. -g would do the same, but just for SCLK. Kent From: Tuikov, Luben Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 12:27 AM To: Russell, Kent ; Deucher, Alexander ; Quan, Evan ; Lazar, Lijo ; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org Cc: Kasiviswanathan, Harish Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency Kent, What is the command which fails? I can try to duplicate it here. So far, things I've tried, I cannot make rocm-smi fail. Command arguments? Regards, Luben On 2021-10-18 21:06, Russell, Kent wrote: [AMD Official Use Only] The * is required for the rocm-smi's functionality for showing what the current clocks are. We had a bug before where the * was removed, then the SMI died fantastically. Work could be done to try to handle that type of situation, but the SMI has a "show current clocks" and uses the * to determine which one is active Kent From: amd-gfx <mailto:amd-gfx-boun...@lists.freedesktop.org> On Behalf Of Russell, Kent Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 9:05 PM To: Tuikov, Luben <mailto:luben.tui...@amd.com>; Deucher, Alexander <mailto:alexander.deuc...@amd.com>; Quan, Evan <mailto:evan.q...@amd.com>; Lazar, Lijo <mailto:lijo.la...@amd.com>; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org<mailto:amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org> Cc: Kasiviswanathan, Harish <mailto:harish.kasiviswanat...@amd.com> Subject: RE: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency [AMD Official Use Only] +Harish, rocm-smi falls under his purview now. Kent From: Tuikov, Luben mailto:luben.tui...@amd.com>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 4:30 PM To: Deucher, Alexander mailto:alexander.deuc...@amd.com>>; Quan, Evan mailto:evan.q...@amd.com>>; Lazar, Lijo mailto:lijo.la...@amd.com>>; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org<mailto:amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>; Russell, Kent mailto:kent.russ...@amd.com>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency I think Kent is already seen these patches as he did comment on 1/5 patch. The v3 version of the patch, posted last week, removes the asterisk to report the lowest frequency as the current frequency, when the current frequency is 0, i.e. when the block is in low power state. Does the tool rely on the asterisk? If this information is necessary could it not use amdgpu_pm_info? Regards, Luben On 2021-10-18 16:19, Deucher, Alexander wrote: [Public] We the current behavior (0 for clock) already crashes the tool, so I don't think we can really make things worse. Alex From: Quan, Evan <mailto:evan.q...@amd.com> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 10:25 PM To: Lazar, Lijo <mailto:lijo.la...@amd.com>; Tuikov, Luben <mailto:luben.tui...@amd.com>; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org<mailto:amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org> <mailto:amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>; Russell, Kent <mailto:kent.russ...@amd.com> Cc: Deucher, Alexander <mailto:alexander.deuc...@amd.com> Subject: RE: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency [AMD Official Use Only] +Kent who maintains the Rocm tool From: amd-gfx <mailto:amd-gfx-boun...@lists.freedesktop.org> On Behalf Of Lazar, Lijo Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 1:07 AM To: Tuikov, Luben <mailto:luben.tui...@amd.com>; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org<mailto:amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org> Cc: Deucher, Alexander <mailto:alexander.deuc...@amd.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency [AMD Official Use Only] [AMD Official Use Only] >Or maybe just a list without default hint, i.e. no asterisk? I think this is also fine meaning we are having trouble in determining the current frequency or DPM level. Evan/Alex? Don't know if this will crash the tools. Thanks, Lijo From: Tuikov, Luben mailto:luben.tui...@amd.com>> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 9:52:09 PM To: Lazar, Lijo mailto:lijo.la...@amd.com>>; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org<mailto:amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org> mailto:amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>> Cc: Deucher, Alexander mailto:alexander.deuc...@amd.com>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency On 2021-10-13 00:14, Lazar, Lijo wrote: > > On 10/13/2021 8:40 AM, Luben Tuikov wrote: >> Some ASIC support low-power functionality for the whole ASIC or just >> an IP block. When in such low-power mode, some sysfs interfaces would >> report a frequency of 0, e.g., >> >> $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk >> 0: 500Mhz >> 1: 0Mhz * >> 2: 2200Mhz >> $_ >> >> An operating frequency of 0 MHz doesn't make sense,
Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency
It again fails with the same message! But this time it is different! Here's why: openat(AT_FDCWD, "/sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_fclk", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "0: 571Mhz \n1: 1274Mhz *\n2: 1221M"..., 8191) = 36 read(3, "", 8191) = 0 close(3) = 0 write(2, "python3: /home/ltuikov/proj/amd/"..., 220python3: /home/ltuikov/proj/amd/rocm_smi_lib/src/rocm_smi.cc:913: rsmi_status_t get_frequencies(amd::smi::DevInfoTypes, uint32_t, rsmi_frequencies_t*, uint32_t*): Assertion `f->frequency[i-1] <= f->frequency[i]' failed. ) = 220 mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x7f531f9bc000 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK, [ABRT], NULL, 8) = 0 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, ~[RTMIN RT_1], [], 8) = 0 getpid() = 37861 gettid() = 37861 tgkill(37861, 37861, SIGABRT) = 0 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0 --- SIGABRT {si_signo=SIGABRT, si_code=SI_TKILL, si_pid=37861, si_uid=1000} --- +++ killed by SIGABRT (core dumped) +++ Aborted (core dumped) $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_fclk 0: 571Mhz 1: 1274Mhz * 2: 1221Mhz $_ Why is the mid frequency larger than the last? Why does get_frequencies() insists that they be ordered when they're not? (Does the tool need fixing or the kernel?) The current patchset doesn't report 0, and doesn't report any current if 0 would've been reported as current. But anything else is reported as it would've been reported before the patch. And I tested it with vanilla amd-staging-drm-next--same thing. Regards, Luben On 2021-10-19 09:25, Russell, Kent wrote: [AMD Official Use Only] It was the rocm-smi -c flag. Maybe some work was done to make it more robust, that would be nice. But the -c flag is supposed to show the current frequency for each clock type. -g would do the same, but just for SCLK. Kent From: Tuikov, Luben Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 12:27 AM To: Russell, Kent ; Deucher, Alexander ; Quan, Evan ; Lazar, Lijo ; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org Cc: Kasiviswanathan, Harish Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency Kent, What is the command which fails? I can try to duplicate it here. So far, things I've tried, I cannot make rocm-smi fail. Command arguments? Regards, Luben On 2021-10-18 21:06, Russell, Kent wrote: [AMD Official Use Only] The * is required for the rocm-smi’s functionality for showing what the current clocks are. We had a bug before where the * was removed, then the SMI died fantastically. Work could be done to try to handle that type of situation, but the SMI has a “show current clocks” and uses the * to determine which one is active Kent From: amd-gfx On Behalf Of Russell, Kent Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 9:05 PM To: Tuikov, Luben ; Deucher, Alexander ; Quan, Evan ; Lazar, Lijo ; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org Cc: Kasiviswanathan, Harish Subject: RE: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency [AMD Official Use Only] +Harish, rocm-smi falls under his purview now. Kent From: Tuikov, Luben <luben.tui...@amd.
Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency
On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 9:54 AM Luben Tuikov wrote: > > It again fails with the same message! > But this time it is different! > Here's why: > > openat(AT_FDCWD, "/sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_fclk", O_RDONLY) = 3 > read(3, "0: 571Mhz \n1: 1274Mhz *\n2: 1221M"..., 8191) = 36 > read(3, "", 8191) = 0 > close(3)= 0 > write(2, "python3: /home/ltuikov/proj/amd/"..., 220python3: > /home/ltuikov/proj/amd/rocm_smi_lib/src/rocm_smi.cc:913: rsmi_status_t > get_frequencies(amd::smi::DevInfoTypes, uint32_t, rsmi_frequencies_t*, > uint32_t*): Assertion `f->frequency[i-1] <= f->frequency[i]' failed. > ) = 220 > mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = > 0x7f531f9bc000 > rt_sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK, [ABRT], NULL, 8) = 0 > rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, ~[RTMIN RT_1], [], 8) = 0 > getpid()= 37861 > gettid()= 37861 > tgkill(37861, 37861, SIGABRT) = 0 > rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0 > --- SIGABRT {si_signo=SIGABRT, si_code=SI_TKILL, si_pid=37861, si_uid=1000} > --- > +++ killed by SIGABRT (core dumped) +++ > Aborted (core dumped) > $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_fclk > 0: 571Mhz > 1: 1274Mhz * > 2: 1221Mhz > $_ > > Why is the mid frequency larger than the last? > Why does get_frequencies() insists that they be ordered when they're not? > (Does the tool need fixing or the kernel?) > > The current patchset doesn't report 0, and doesn't report any current if 0 > would've been reported as current. But anything else is reported as it > would've been reported before the patch. And I tested it with vanilla > amd-staging-drm-next--same thing. > Seems to crash both ways. I'd rather either: 1. Remove the * when the clock is outside of the min and max ranges or 2. Clamp the clock to the max or min if it's above or below. And then fix the tools accordingly. Those seem like the choices of least surprise considering the interface is supposed to show the current and available DPM levels. Alex > Regards, > Luben > > > On 2021-10-19 09:25, Russell, Kent wrote: > > [AMD Official Use Only] > > > > It was the rocm-smi -c flag. Maybe some work was done to make it more robust, > that would be nice. But the -c flag is supposed to show the current frequency > for each clock type. -g would do the same, but just for SCLK. > > > > Kent > > > > From: Tuikov, Luben > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 12:27 AM > To: Russell, Kent ; Deucher, Alexander > ; Quan, Evan ; Lazar, Lijo > ; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org > Cc: Kasiviswanathan, Harish > Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency > > > > Kent, > > What is the command which fails? > I can try to duplicate it here. > > So far, things I've tried, I cannot make rocm-smi fail. Command arguments? > > Regards, > Luben > > On 2021-10-18 21:06, Russell, Kent wrote: > > [AMD Official Use Only] > > > > The * is required for the rocm-smi’s functionality for showing what the > current clocks are. We had a bug before where the * was removed, then the SMI > died fantastically. Work could be done to try to handle that type of > situation, but the SMI has a “show current clocks” and uses the * to > determine which one is active > > > > Kent > > > > From: amd-gfx On Behalf Of Russell, > Kent > Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 9:05 PM > To: Tuikov, Luben ; Deucher, Alexander > ; Quan, Evan ; Lazar, Lijo > ; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org > Cc: Kasiviswanathan, Harish > Subject: RE: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency > > > > [AMD Official Use Only] > > > > +Harish, rocm-smi falls under his purview now. > > > > Kent > > > > From: Tuikov, Luben > Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 4:30 PM > To: Deucher, Alexander ; Quan, Evan > ; Lazar, Lijo ; > amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org; Russell, Kent > Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency > > > > I think Kent is already seen these patches as he did comment on 1/5 patch. > > The v3 version of the patch, posted last week, removes the asterisk to report > the lowest frequency as the current frequency, when the current frequency is > 0, i.e. when the block is in low power state. Does the tool rely on the > asterisk? If this information is necessary could it not use amdgpu_pm_info? > > Regards, > Luben > > On 2021-10-18 16:19, Deucher, Alexander wrote: > > [Public] > > > > We
Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency
On 2021-10-26 17:26, Alex Deucher wrote: > On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 9:54 AM Luben Tuikov wrote: >> It again fails with the same message! >> But this time it is different! >> Here's why: >> >> openat(AT_FDCWD, "/sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_fclk", O_RDONLY) = 3 >> read(3, "0: 571Mhz \n1: 1274Mhz *\n2: 1221M"..., 8191) = 36 >> read(3, "", 8191) = 0 >> close(3)= 0 >> write(2, "python3: /home/ltuikov/proj/amd/"..., 220python3: >> /home/ltuikov/proj/amd/rocm_smi_lib/src/rocm_smi.cc:913: rsmi_status_t >> get_frequencies(amd::smi::DevInfoTypes, uint32_t, rsmi_frequencies_t*, >> uint32_t*): Assertion `f->frequency[i-1] <= f->frequency[i]' failed. >> ) = 220 >> mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = >> 0x7f531f9bc000 >> rt_sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK, [ABRT], NULL, 8) = 0 >> rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, ~[RTMIN RT_1], [], 8) = 0 >> getpid()= 37861 >> gettid()= 37861 >> tgkill(37861, 37861, SIGABRT) = 0 >> rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0 >> --- SIGABRT {si_signo=SIGABRT, si_code=SI_TKILL, si_pid=37861, si_uid=1000} >> --- >> +++ killed by SIGABRT (core dumped) +++ >> Aborted (core dumped) >> $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_fclk >> 0: 571Mhz >> 1: 1274Mhz * >> 2: 1221Mhz >> $_ >> >> Why is the mid frequency larger than the last? >> Why does get_frequencies() insists that they be ordered when they're not? >> (Does the tool need fixing or the kernel?) >> >> The current patchset doesn't report 0, and doesn't report any current if 0 >> would've been reported as current. But anything else is reported as it >> would've been reported before the patch. And I tested it with vanilla >> amd-staging-drm-next--same thing. >> > Seems to crash both ways. I'd rather either: > 1. Remove the * when the clock is outside of the min and max ranges > or > 2. Clamp the clock to the max or min if it's above or below. > > And then fix the tools accordingly. Those seem like the choices of > least surprise considering the interface is supposed to show the > current and available DPM levels. So, if we get a case such as the one above, we remove the whole line at 1:, not just the asterisk, right? (for option 1 above). The rocm-smi lib would fail if they're out of order, so only removing the * char would still confuse the tool. What does it mean when the current frequency (line 1:) is above the "max" (line 2:) as shown in my output above? Do we perhaps want to sort them and report current still, and swap lines 1 and 2? Or should we simply remove the ordering requirement in rocm-smi lib? Regards, Luben > > Alex > > >> Regards, >> Luben >> >> >> On 2021-10-19 09:25, Russell, Kent wrote: >> >> [AMD Official Use Only] >> >> >> >> It was the rocm-smi -c flag. Maybe some work was done to make it more >> robust, that would be nice. But the -c flag is supposed to show the current >> frequency for each clock type. -g would do the same, but just for SCLK. >> >> >> >> Kent >> >> >> >> From: Tuikov, Luben >> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 12:27 AM >> To: Russell, Kent ; Deucher, Alexander >> ; Quan, Evan ; Lazar, Lijo >> ; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org >> Cc: Kasiviswanathan, Harish >> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency >> >> >> >> Kent, >> >> What is the command which fails? >> I can try to duplicate it here. >> >> So far, things I've tried, I cannot make rocm-smi fail. Command arguments? >> >> Regards, >> Luben >> >> On 2021-10-18 21:06, Russell, Kent wrote: >> >> [AMD Official Use Only] >> >> >> >> The * is required for the rocm-smi’s functionality for showing what the >> current clocks are. We had a bug before where the * was removed, then the >> SMI died fantastically. Work could be done to try to handle that type of >> situation, but the SMI has a “show current clocks” and uses the * to >> determine which one is active >> >> >> >> Kent >> >> >> >> From: amd-gfx On Behalf Of Russell, >> Kent >> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 9:05 PM >> To: Tuikov, Luben ; Deucher, Alexander >> ; Quan, Evan ; Lazar, Lijo >> ; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org >>
Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency
On 10/27/2021 3:30 AM, Luben Tuikov wrote: On 2021-10-26 17:26, Alex Deucher wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 9:54 AM Luben Tuikov wrote: It again fails with the same message! But this time it is different! Here's why: openat(AT_FDCWD, "/sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_fclk", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "0: 571Mhz \n1: 1274Mhz *\n2: 1221M"..., 8191) = 36 read(3, "", 8191) = 0 close(3)= 0 write(2, "python3: /home/ltuikov/proj/amd/"..., 220python3: /home/ltuikov/proj/amd/rocm_smi_lib/src/rocm_smi.cc:913: rsmi_status_t get_frequencies(amd::smi::DevInfoTypes, uint32_t, rsmi_frequencies_t*, uint32_t*): Assertion `f->frequency[i-1] <= f->frequency[i]' failed. ) = 220 mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x7f531f9bc000 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK, [ABRT], NULL, 8) = 0 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, ~[RTMIN RT_1], [], 8) = 0 getpid()= 37861 gettid()= 37861 tgkill(37861, 37861, SIGABRT) = 0 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0 --- SIGABRT {si_signo=SIGABRT, si_code=SI_TKILL, si_pid=37861, si_uid=1000} --- +++ killed by SIGABRT (core dumped) +++ Aborted (core dumped) $cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_fclk 0: 571Mhz 1: 1274Mhz * 2: 1221Mhz $_ Why is the mid frequency larger than the last? Why does get_frequencies() insists that they be ordered when they're not? (Does the tool need fixing or the kernel?) The current patchset doesn't report 0, and doesn't report any current if 0 would've been reported as current. But anything else is reported as it would've been reported before the patch. And I tested it with vanilla amd-staging-drm-next--same thing. Seems to crash both ways. I'd rather either: 1. Remove the * when the clock is outside of the min and max ranges or 2. Clamp the clock to the max or min if it's above or below. And then fix the tools accordingly. Those seem like the choices of least surprise considering the interface is supposed to show the current and available DPM levels. So, if we get a case such as the one above, we remove the whole line at 1:, not just the asterisk, right? (for option 1 above). The rocm-smi lib would fail if they're out of order, so only removing the * char would still confuse the tool. What does it mean when the current frequency (line 1:) is above the "max" (line 2:) as shown in my output above? Do we perhaps want to sort them and report current still, and swap lines 1 and 2? Or should we simply remove the ordering requirement in rocm-smi lib? These nodes help to find the current state of ASIC. Clamping the values will just erase questions like these and possible improvements/fixes. For ex: if the situation above is a case of OD (this is only example, don't know what is really the case above) that goes beyond regular DPM min/max levels, then we could add + as improvement. IMO, the node should reflect the current state of ASIC and masking the values shouldn't be done. Other cases could be 0 or FW handshake failures where * itself will be missing. Thanks, Lijo Regards, Luben Alex Regards, Luben On 2021-10-19 09:25, Russell, Kent wrote: [AMD Official Use Only] It was the rocm-smi -c flag. Maybe some work was done to make it more robust, that would be nice. But the -c flag is supposed to show the current frequency for each clock type. -g would do the same, but just for SCLK. Kent From: Tuikov, Luben Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 12:27 AM To: Russell, Kent ; Deucher, Alexander ; Quan, Evan ; Lazar, Lijo ; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org Cc: Kasiviswanathan, Harish Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency Kent, What is the command which fails? I can try to duplicate it here. So far, things I've tried, I cannot make rocm-smi fail. Command arguments? Regards, Luben On 2021-10-18 21:06, Russell, Kent wrote: [AMD Official Use Only] The * is required for the rocm-smi’s functionality for showing what the current clocks are. We had a bug before where the * was removed, then the SMI died fantastically. Work could be done to try to handle that type of situation, but the SMI has a “show current clocks” and uses the * to determine which one is active Kent From: amd-gfx On Behalf Of Russell, Kent Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 9:05 PM To: Tuikov, Luben ; Deucher, Alexander ; Quan, Evan ; Lazar, Lijo ; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org Cc: Kasiviswanathan, Harish Subject: RE: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency [AMD Official Use Only] +Harish, rocm-smi falls under his purview now. Kent From: Tuikov, Luben Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 4:30 PM To: Deucher, Alexander ; Quan, Evan ; Lazar, Lijo ; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org; Russell, Kent Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5]
Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency
mping works as well. E.g., while SMU reports 0 in some cases, that could be due to the clock being off or the block being powergated. It's still in the lowest state. If the clock were on, it would be in the lowest state. Same thing on the high end. It's possible there is a little slop in the clock calculations for stability. E.g., the clock may be a few Mhz above the max because SMU determined that the current max frequency was not stable in combination with some other clock. It's still ostensibly in the highest DPM state. Alex > > Thanks, > Lijo > > > Regards, > > Luben > > > >> > >> Alex > >> > >> > >>> Regards, > >>> Luben > >>> > >>> > >>> On 2021-10-19 09:25, Russell, Kent wrote: > >>> > >>> [AMD Official Use Only] > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> It was the rocm-smi -c flag. Maybe some work was done to make it more > >>> robust, that would be nice. But the -c flag is supposed to show the > >>> current frequency for each clock type. -g would do the same, but just for > >>> SCLK. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Kent > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> From: Tuikov, Luben > >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 12:27 AM > >>> To: Russell, Kent ; Deucher, Alexander > >>> ; Quan, Evan ; Lazar, Lijo > >>> ; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org > >>> Cc: Kasiviswanathan, Harish > >>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Kent, > >>> > >>> What is the command which fails? > >>> I can try to duplicate it here. > >>> > >>> So far, things I've tried, I cannot make rocm-smi fail. Command arguments? > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Luben > >>> > >>> On 2021-10-18 21:06, Russell, Kent wrote: > >>> > >>> [AMD Official Use Only] > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> The * is required for the rocm-smi’s functionality for showing what the > >>> current clocks are. We had a bug before where the * was removed, then the > >>> SMI died fantastically. Work could be done to try to handle that type of > >>> situation, but the SMI has a “show current clocks” and uses the * to > >>> determine which one is active > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Kent > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> From: amd-gfx On Behalf Of > >>> Russell, Kent > >>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 9:05 PM > >>> To: Tuikov, Luben ; Deucher, Alexander > >>> ; Quan, Evan ; Lazar, Lijo > >>> ; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org > >>> Cc: Kasiviswanathan, Harish > >>> Subject: RE: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> [AMD Official Use Only] > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> +Harish, rocm-smi falls under his purview now. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Kent > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> From: Tuikov, Luben > >>> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 4:30 PM > >>> To: Deucher, Alexander ; Quan, Evan > >>> ; Lazar, Lijo ; > >>> amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org; Russell, Kent > >>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I think Kent is already seen these patches as he did comment on 1/5 patch. > >>> > >>> The v3 version of the patch, posted last week, removes the asterisk to > >>> report the lowest frequency as the current frequency, when the current > >>> frequency is 0, i.e. when the block is in low power state. Does the tool > >>> rely on the asterisk? If this information is necessary could it not use > >>> amdgpu_pm_info? > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Luben > >>> > >>> On 2021-10-18 16:19, Deucher, Alexander wrote: > >>> > >>> [Public] > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> We the current behavior (0 for clock) already crashes the tool, so I > >>> don't think we can really make things worse. > >>> > >>> > >>> &