RE: [AMRadio] Ground(Or Lack Of)?

2005-02-15 Thread John Coleman
Hi Bob, 
A true Dipole is a balanced antenna that works in space or on earth.
The proximity to earth or any reflective surface changes the balance and /
or the radiation resistance.  That's enough said on the ant working, but the
reflectivity of the earth and the grounding system can greatly effect the
radiation patterns and how much RF is floating around on the wiring and
metal stuff in the housing community.  This RFI can be a big problem on AM
at 100 watts or more!  I once, in a cramped location, had to operate an Eico
720 and home brewed modulator, with a RF hot D104.  I could talk to people
but when I touched the Microphone it was HOT and the modulator started
squealing.  Some modification of the MIC circuit and a shorter cord got rid
of the squeals but the whole rig was hot with RF.  This didn't go away until
I changed the orientation of the dipole and did some ground wiring changes.


73
John, WA5BXO

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Subject: [AMRadio] Ground(Or Lack Of)?

Back to my 4th floor apartment problem. This building has plastic
plumbing(which seems to leak at tleat once a month). This morning I pulled
the plate off one of the wall plugs. The building has plastic conduit also.

So the only ground is the third wire and who knows where or how it runs.

The antenna will be made to a full 40M dipole. What kind of problems should
I expect from the crappy ground?

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ/7
Seattle, Wa.

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Re: [AMRadio] Ground(Or Lack Of)?

2005-02-15 Thread k0ng

Bob: Dont expect any problem with your dipole (unless you are right under
it, then things might get hot). A dipole does not need any ground to operate.
The "3rd wire" should only be used as a safety line to the radio chassis.
It would be best if you checked the 3rd wire continuity all the way back to
the building entrance ground but I realize this is probably impractical.

Good Luck,  DE Charlie,  K0NG  ..

Quoting Bob Macklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Back to my 4th floor apartment problem. This building has plastic
> plumbing(which seems to leak at tleat once a month). This morning I pulled
> the plate off one of the wall plugs. The building has plastic conduit also.
> 
> So the only ground is the third wire and who knows where or how it runs.
> 
> The antenna will be made to a full 40M dipole. What kind of problems should
> I expect from the crappy ground?
> 
> Bob Macklin
> K5MYJ/7
> Seattle, Wa.
> 
> "REAL RADIOS GLOW IN THE DARK"
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Re: [AMRadio] Open Reel Tape -- Production resumes ?

2005-02-15 Thread Powell E. Way III

>Some of us who cherish the sound (and look) of our 
>open reel machines are heartened by this news from one 
>of the sellers of open-reel tape. 

Indeed. 


>(you will recall late in 2004 Quategy, which descended 
>from Ampex,  shut down its manufacturing plant. 
>Workers were given little notice, but news accounts at 
>the time cited declining markets for tape storage.) 


They lost a major contract and shut down to reorganize. I'm 
glad they are back. I wonder if they are going to make any tape 
with no back side stuff on it. That's where the tape problems 
start and end. 

It is interesting that Quantegy also had purchased the Scotch 
line, but you don't see any of THAT tape in production 


I have some boxes of "NEW" Ampex that's their equivalent of 
Scotch 111.  I have some NOS boxes of Scotch 203, my favorite 
of the time. A lot of Revox recorders bias PERFECTLY for this 
tape. 


Powell 


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Re: [AMRadio] Ground(Or Lack Of)?

2005-02-15 Thread W7QHO

In a message dated 2/15/05 3:06:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> Back to my 4th floor apartment problem. This building has plastic
> plumbing(which seems to leak at tleat once a month). This morning I pulled
> the plate off one of the wall plugs. The building has plastic conduit also.
> 
> So the only ground is the third wire and who knows where or how it runs.
> 
> The antenna will be made to a full 40M dipole. What kind of problems should
> I expect from the crappy ground?
> 
> 

Bob,

Entirely possible.   I operated very successfully out of a 5th floor room in 
Germany back in the 1970s using a 400 ft end fed long wire.

That high up (4th floor) your RF ground situation would be problematical 
regardless of the type of plumbing and/or electrical conduit used.   Using a 
balanced antenna like you are, you shouldn't have "RF in the shack" problems 
but if 
you do, hang a quarter wave wire out the window connected to your xmitter 
chassis.   You may need one of these "stubs" for each band you work.   

Your biggest problem, though, will be staying legal in regard to lightening 
protection.   Local codes would likely require installation a solid grounding 
system for your antenna which you would have to clear with your landlord (and 
pay for yourself).If you want to bootleg it (which countless hams including 
myself have done) I would recommend making provision for disconnecting the 
antenna lead-in and getting it entirely outside the building when an electrical 
storm threatened.

Dennis D. W7QHO
Glendale, CA


[AMRadio] Ground(Or Lack Of)?

2005-02-15 Thread Bob Macklin
Back to my 4th floor apartment problem. This building has plastic
plumbing(which seems to leak at tleat once a month). This morning I pulled
the plate off one of the wall plugs. The building has plastic conduit also.

So the only ground is the third wire and who knows where or how it runs.

The antenna will be made to a full 40M dipole. What kind of problems should
I expect from the crappy ground?

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ/7
Seattle, Wa.

"REAL RADIOS GLOW IN THE DARK"


Re: [AMRadio] Meter Switch Part #

2005-02-15 Thread GBrown
Ron:
I think I have an original switch for the Viking II. Email me direct.
Regards,
Gary...WZ1M
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> Does anyone know the Centralab part number for the Meter switch in the 
> Johnson viking 2?..Tnx es 73's..Ron W6MAU
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RE: [AMRadio] Open Reel Tape -- Production resumes ?

2005-02-15 Thread Merz Donald S
Actually, the modern digital recorders that I have used simulate a tape 
transport. The push-button controls are marked the same as a tape deck. When 
you hit fast-forward, it simulates building up speed--just like a tape machine. 
People still say "roll tape" to start recording --even when they know it's not 
tape.

73, Don M.


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That's true Don, but Paul likes to say on the air "roll some tape". It
doesn't have the same ring if you say "roll some bytes" or "move some
bytes".
Pete, wa2cwa

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:00:50 -0500 "Merz Donald S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> Well, you can't beat the look of an open reel tape machine. The 
> sound? --that's another matter entirely. The recording industry has 
> certainly gone digital. The used-audio places are full of the best 
> name brand tape machines and they can all be had for a song. The 
> analog mixer is beginning to suffer a similar fate. Outboard 
> hardware is also going soft. The compressor and effects hardware 
> makers have had to release "plug-in" software versions of all of 
> their products in order to protect their name in the marketplace.
> 
> Audio production is going the way of the analog radio. In the not 
> too distant future, it will all be software and "control surfaces".
> 
> 73, Don Merz, N3RHT
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of VJB
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 12:41 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [AMRadio] Open Reel Tape -- Production resumes ?
> 
> 
> Some of us who cherish the sound (and look) of our
> open reel machines are heartened by this news from one
> of the sellers of open-reel tape.
> 
> (you will recall late in 2004 Quategy, which descended
> from Ampex,  shut down its manufacturing plant.
> Workers were given little notice, but news accounts at
> the time cited declining markets for tape storage.)
> 
> --
> http://www.usrecordingmedia.com/qu456grma.html
> 
> UPDATE Feb 14, 2005: The tape is rolling in and we're
> painfully and
> slowly starting to fill our shelves. (We even have
> 1/4" GP9 and 457 on
> reels now.) Quantegy has re-instated full audio
> production again.
> Also, there definitely will be new studio quality open
> reel audio tape
> made here in Pennsylvania with the first tape being
> available probably
> in late May 2005 if not sooner. As soon as we have
> this tape available
> to you, it'll be posted on this web site. They're
> going to be making
> very good tape for almost everyone in the studio
> through broadcast,
> government, and even the home recordist. We feel
> everything from the
> new tape boxes through the sound and slitting of the
> tape is going to
> have a "classic" touch to it.
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[AMRadio] Meter Switch Part #

2005-02-15 Thread Rivpapa1
Does anyone know the Centralab part number for the Meter switch in the 
Johnson viking 2?..Tnx es 73's..Ron W6MAU


Re: [AMRadio] Open Reel Tape -- Production resumes ?

2005-02-15 Thread peter markavage
That's true Don, but Paul likes to say on the air "roll some tape". It
doesn't have the same ring if you say "roll some bytes" or "move some
bytes".
Pete, wa2cwa

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:00:50 -0500 "Merz Donald S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> Well, you can't beat the look of an open reel tape machine. The 
> sound? --that's another matter entirely. The recording industry has 
> certainly gone digital. The used-audio places are full of the best 
> name brand tape machines and they can all be had for a song. The 
> analog mixer is beginning to suffer a similar fate. Outboard 
> hardware is also going soft. The compressor and effects hardware 
> makers have had to release "plug-in" software versions of all of 
> their products in order to protect their name in the marketplace.
> 
> Audio production is going the way of the analog radio. In the not 
> too distant future, it will all be software and "control surfaces".
> 
> 73, Don Merz, N3RHT
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of VJB
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 12:41 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [AMRadio] Open Reel Tape -- Production resumes ?
> 
> 
> Some of us who cherish the sound (and look) of our
> open reel machines are heartened by this news from one
> of the sellers of open-reel tape.
> 
> (you will recall late in 2004 Quategy, which descended
> from Ampex,  shut down its manufacturing plant.
> Workers were given little notice, but news accounts at
> the time cited declining markets for tape storage.)
> 
> --
> http://www.usrecordingmedia.com/qu456grma.html
> 
> UPDATE Feb 14, 2005: The tape is rolling in and we're
> painfully and
> slowly starting to fill our shelves. (We even have
> 1/4" GP9 and 457 on
> reels now.) Quantegy has re-instated full audio
> production again.
> Also, there definitely will be new studio quality open
> reel audio tape
> made here in Pennsylvania with the first tape being
> available probably
> in late May 2005 if not sooner. As soon as we have
> this tape available
> to you, it'll be posted on this web site. They're
> going to be making
> very good tape for almost everyone in the studio
> through broadcast,
> government, and even the home recordist. We feel
> everything from the
> new tape boxes through the sound and slitting of the
> tape is going to
> have a "classic" touch to it.


RE: [AMRadio] Open Reel Tape -- Production resumes ?

2005-02-15 Thread Merz Donald S
Well, you can't beat the look of an open reel tape machine. The sound? --that's 
another matter entirely. The recording industry has certainly gone digital. The 
used-audio places are full of the best name brand tape machines and they can 
all be had for a song. The analog mixer is beginning to suffer a similar fate. 
Outboard hardware is also going soft. The compressor and effects hardware 
makers have had to release "plug-in" software versions of all of their products 
in order to protect their name in the marketplace.

Audio production is going the way of the analog radio. In the not too distant 
future, it will all be software and "control surfaces".

73, Don Merz, N3RHT




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 12:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [AMRadio] Open Reel Tape -- Production resumes ?


Some of us who cherish the sound (and look) of our
open reel machines are heartened by this news from one
of the sellers of open-reel tape.

(you will recall late in 2004 Quategy, which descended
from Ampex,  shut down its manufacturing plant.
Workers were given little notice, but news accounts at
the time cited declining markets for tape storage.)

--
http://www.usrecordingmedia.com/qu456grma.html

UPDATE Feb 14, 2005: The tape is rolling in and we're
painfully and
slowly starting to fill our shelves. (We even have
1/4" GP9 and 457 on
reels now.) Quantegy has re-instated full audio
production again.
Also, there definitely will be new studio quality open
reel audio tape
made here in Pennsylvania with the first tape being
available probably
in late May 2005 if not sooner. As soon as we have
this tape available
to you, it'll be posted on this web site. They're
going to be making
very good tape for almost everyone in the studio
through broadcast,
government, and even the home recordist. We feel
everything from the
new tape boxes through the sound and slitting of the
tape is going to
have a "classic" touch to it.





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[AMRadio] Open Reel Tape -- Production resumes ?

2005-02-15 Thread VJB
Some of us who cherish the sound (and look) of our
open reel machines are heartened by this news from one
of the sellers of open-reel tape.

(you will recall late in 2004 Quategy, which descended
from Ampex,  shut down its manufacturing plant.
Workers were given little notice, but news accounts at
the time cited declining markets for tape storage.)

--
http://www.usrecordingmedia.com/qu456grma.html

UPDATE Feb 14, 2005: The tape is rolling in and we're
painfully and
slowly starting to fill our shelves. (We even have
1/4" GP9 and 457 on
reels now.) Quantegy has re-instated full audio
production again.
Also, there definitely will be new studio quality open
reel audio tape
made here in Pennsylvania with the first tape being
available probably
in late May 2005 if not sooner. As soon as we have
this tape available
to you, it'll be posted on this web site. They're
going to be making
very good tape for almost everyone in the studio
through broadcast,
government, and even the home recordist. We feel
everything from the
new tape boxes through the sound and slitting of the
tape is going to
have a "classic" touch to it.





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