[AMRadio] FCC ADDRESSES ARRL PETITION FOR RECONSIDERATION, NO-CODE PROPOSAL

2006-12-17 Thread Bry Carling
ARRL's term Automatically controlled is just a euphemism 
for Unattended Robot Jammer when it comes to Pator / 
Winlink stations.

Does anyone know if they are they still banned on HF  
under the new rules, due to their wide signal? Oor have 
they petitioned to remove that change too?

 FCC MODIFIES AMATEUR RADIO SERVICE RULES,
 
 ELIMINATING MORSE CODE EXAM REQUIREMENTS AND
 
 ADDRESSING ARRL PETITION FOR RECONSIDERATION
 
 Washington, D.C. - Today, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) 
 adopted a
 
 Report and Order and Order on Reconsideration (Order) that modifies the 
 rules for the Amateur
 
 Radio Service by revising the examination requirements for obtaining a 
 General Class or
 
 Amateur Extra Class amateur radio operator license and revising the 
 operating privileges for
 
 Technician Class licensees. In addition, the Order resolves a petition filed 
 by the American
 
 Radio Relay League, Inc. (ARRL) for partial reconsideration of an FCC Order 
 on amateur
 
 service rules released on October 10, 2006.
 
 The current amateur service operator license structure contains three 
 classes of amateur
 
 radio operator licenses: Technician Class, General Class, and Amateur Extra 
 Class. General
 
 Class and Amateur Extra Class licensees are permitted to operate in Amateur 
 bands below 30
 
 MHz, while the introductory Technician Class licensees are only permitted to 
 operate in bands
 
 above 30 MHz. Prior to today's action, the FCC, in accordance with 
 international radio
 
 regulations, required applicants for General Class and Amateur Extra Class 
 operator licenses to
 
 pass a five words-per-minute Morse code examination. Today's Order 
 eliminates that
 
 requirement for General and Amateur Extra licensees. This change reflects 
 revisions to
 
 international radio regulations made at the International Telecommunication 
 Union's 2003
 
 World Radio Conference (WRC-03), which authorized each country to determine 
 whether to
 
 require that individuals demonstrate Morse code proficiency in order to 
 qualify for an amateur
 
 radio license with transmitting privileges on frequencies below 30 MHz. This 
 change eliminates
 
 an unnecessary regulatory burden that may discourage current amateur radio 
 operators from
 
 advancing their skills and participating more fully in the benefits of 
 amateur radio.
 
 Today's Order also revises the operating privileges for Technician Class 
 licensees by
 
 eliminating a disparity in the operating privileges for the Technician Class 
 and Technician Plus
 
 Class licensees. Technician Class licensees are authorized operating 
 privileges on all amateur
 
 frequencies above 30 MHz. The Technician Plus Class license, which is an 
 operator license
 
 class that existed prior the FCC's simplification of the amateur license 
 structure in 1999 and was
 
 grandfathered after that time, authorized operating privileges on all 
 amateur frequencies above
 
 30 MHz, as well as frequency segments in four HF bands (below 30 MHz) after 
 the successful
 
 completion of a Morse code examination. With today's elimination of the 
 Morse code exam
 
 requirements, the FCC concluded that the disparity between the operating 
 privileges of
 
 Technician Class licensees and Technician Plus Class licensees should not be 
 retained.
 
 2
 
 Therefore, the FCC, in today's action, afforded Technician and Technician 
 Plus licensees
 
 identical operating privileges.
 
 Finally, today's Order resolved a petition filed by the ARRL for partial 
 reconsideration of
 
 an FCC Order released on October 10, 2006 (FCC 06-149). In this Order, the 
 FCC authorized
 
 amateur stations to transmit voice communications on additional frequencies 
 in certain amateur
 
 service bands, including the 75 meter (m) band, which is authorized only for 
 certain wideband
 
 voice and image communications. The ARRL argued that the 75 m band should 
 not have been
 
 expanded below 3635 kHz, in order to protect automatically controlled 
 digital stations operating
 
 in the 3620-3635 kHz portion of the 80 m band. The FCC concluded that these 
 stations can be
 
 protected by providing alternate spectrum in the 3585-3600 kHz frequency 
 segment.
 
 Action by the Commission on December 15, 2006, by Report and Order and Order 
 on
 
 Reconsideration. Chairman Martin and Commissioners Copps, Adelstein, Tate, 
 and McDowell.
 
 For additional information, contact William Cross at (202) 418-0691 or 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 WT Docket Nos. 04-140 and 05-235.
 
 http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-269012A1.pdf
 
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Re: [AMRadio] FCC ADDRESSES ARRL PETITION FOR RECONSIDERATION, NO-CODE PROPOSAL

2006-12-17 Thread Geoff/W5OMR

Bry Carling wrote:
ARRL's term Automatically controlled is just a euphemism 
for Unattended Robot Jammer when it comes to Pator / 
Winlink stations.


Does anyone know if they are they still banned on HF  
under the new rules, due to their wide signal? Oor have 
they petitioned to remove that change too?


Oh, c'mon, Brian.. a little common sense tells you that they -are-. 


If they weren't, then the RO wouldn't need to include them now would it?

You're smarter than that...  aren't you?

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Re: [AMRadio] FCC ADDRESSES ARRL PETITION FOR RECONSIDERATION, NO-CODE PROPOSAL

2006-12-17 Thread Anthony W. DePrato

At 05:23 AM 12/17/2006 -0500, you wrote:

ARRL's term Automatically controlled is just a euphemism
for Unattended Robot Jammer when it comes to Pator /
Winlink stations.

Brian
there are a bunch of them now from 3560 to 3600. they never cared if they 
were manned or unmanned anyway.
man i need to get back on AM in a big way. a T -series transmitter would be 
nice hi hi. hummm wonder if i could trade a in box ts 950sd for one 
installed at my qth . now the next questions do they do CW ?

Merry Christmas to all
73 Tony

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[AMRadio] Telephone Wiring RFI Treatment

2006-12-17 Thread Mike Duke, K5XU
Here's one for those wishing a break from the current hot topic!

I need to do some maintenance on the telephone wiring in my house in order 
to cure a hum that is now constant on all phones.

While I'm at it, I'd like to take appropriate measures to eliminate, or at 
least reduce the rfi that occurs whenever I operate on 80 or 40 meters with 
any mode.


Which ferrite beads or filtering should I use, and should I place any such 
devices on the house side of the entry box rather than, or in addition to at 
the connection point for each phone?

The rfi was present before the hum appeared, so I doubt curing the hum will 
cure the rfi, although it certainly might at least reduce it.



Mike Duke, K5XU
American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs


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[AMRadio] RE:Telephone Wiring RFI Treatment

2006-12-17 Thread Bill Ramsey
Hi Mike,

  I have had hum in the phone lines here on several occasions. When it shows
up, I begin un-plugging devices on the phone line one at a time until I find
the source. This has, in the past, found a device that was causing the
problem. One time the phone company had to replace the service box on the
outside of the house. It was so old the service man could not believe that
it still worked! It had screw in fuses for line protection. He ended up
replacing the service line from the pole.

  The worst case I had required me to replace the line that runs underground
in a PVC pipe to my workshop. The line came out all wet so I used my shop
vac to pull air through the pipe for about 2 hours. When the pipe was dry, I
replaced the line and the hum was gone.

 

  Good Luck!

 

Bill KA8WTK

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Re: [AMRadio] RE:Telephone Wiring RFI Treatment

2006-12-17 Thread Mike Duke, K5XU
Bill,

Thanks for the reminder about checking the devices before going into the 
wiring.

Unfortunately, I've done that already.



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Re: [AMRadio] RE:Telephone Wiring RFI Treatment

2006-12-17 Thread W4AWM
Hi Mike,

The hum on your phone line is most likely caused by a ground somewhere in the 
system.  If you have revently installed wiring, there should be a test jack 
where the lines come in from outside.  Disconnect the plastic plyg from this 
jack which isolates your inside telephone wiring.  Plug a separate phone into 
this jack and listen.  If the hum is there, the problem is outside your home 
and 
you shoule call the phone company for service. 

If it disappears, the problem is inside your house.  If you are paying for 
inside wiring service which you shoule be able to detirmnine from your bill, 
the 
phone company service will fix it for free. If you are not paying for 
service, you will have to find it yourself or pay the price to the phone 
company to 
find the problem for you which is not exactly cheap.

If you want to find it yourself, oner thing to check is the wall outlets.  
Remove them from the wall and determine if there is a greenish blue oxide on 
the 
connector. This sometimes happens when the connector gets damp from 
condensation or a leak in the insulation somewhere. If you find this problem, 
do not 
bother trying to clean the connector. The problem will return soon.  It is 
better to just replace it with a new one.

As far as RFI, there is a very good filter sold by an outfit that advertises 
in QST.  They are expensive and you will probably need one for each phone, bit 
my experience is that they will solve most problems.  

You can also go the ferrite bead route on the leads behind the wall or try 
with one of the larger ferrite units that snaps apart and you then wrap several 
turns of the cable from the wall to the phone around it and snap it closed. 
This also work in some instances and are far cheaper that the filters I first 
mentioned.

Good luck and let us know what you find.

73 and Top of the Season to you,

John,  W4AWM
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Re: [AMRadio] RE:Telephone Wiring RFI Treatment

2006-12-17 Thread W4AWM
Please excuse the spelling typos.  I just came in from working on my G5RV and 
checked the mail.  Wanted to get the answer back asap. 

 Well, back to the roof.  The high SWR was caused by a broken lead where the 
ladder line connects to the antenna.  Could not be seen from the ground.  I 
checked the balun yesterday and was up there ready to replace the whole antenna 
today.  When I pulled it down, I found the problem so I am headed back up 
there with the trusty Bernz 0 Matic torch.

73, 

 John,  W4AWM
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Re: [AMRadio] the 3600 - 3635 spectrum

2006-12-17 Thread david knepper
Perhaps, we should send a nice thank you card to members of the FCC for this 
swift and decisive decision.


I am really tired of all the grumbling.  Thank goodness they did not take 
any frequencies from us and you know that they could.


Let's be pleased for what we got.

Merry Christmas

Dave, W3ST
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- Original Message - 
From: Geoff/W5OMR [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service 
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Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] the 3600 - 3635 spectrum



crawfish wrote:
I didn't see what was wrong with 5 w.p.m. for Generals and above. Oh, 
well,

the dumbing down of America continues...
 Joe W4AAB


Exactly.

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Re: [AMRadio] the 3600 - 3635 spectrum

2006-12-17 Thread Jack Schmidling

david knepper wrote:

I am really tired of all the grumbling.  Thank goodness they did not 
take any frequencies from us and you know that they could.


Let's be pleased for what we got.


Before we bang our heads on the ground groveling, keep in mind that 
these people owe their jobs to taxpayers (that's us).  This is not a 
gift from god, it is the government doing what it should for a change.


js

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Re: [AMRadio] Telephone Wiring RFI Treatment

2006-12-17 Thread fralom
At work, we've had some success with K-Com filters, both wired and plug-in.
 -- Original message --
From: Mike Duke, K5XU [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Here's one for those wishing a break from the current hot topic!
 
 I need to do some maintenance on the telephone wiring in my house in order 
 to cure a hum that is now constant on all phones.
 
 While I'm at it, I'd like to take appropriate measures to eliminate, or at 
 least reduce the rfi that occurs whenever I operate on 80 or 40 meters with 
 any mode.
 
 
 Which ferrite beads or filtering should I use, and should I place any such 
 devices on the house side of the entry box rather than, or in addition to at 
 the connection point for each phone?
 
 The rfi was present before the hum appeared, so I doubt curing the hum will 
 cure the rfi, although it certainly might at least reduce it.
 
 
 
 Mike Duke, K5XU
 American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs
 
 
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Re: [AMRadio] Telephone Wiring RFI Treatment

2006-12-17 Thread Mike Sawyer
My problem with this has always been keeping RF out of the computer speakers 
on 40M. Its the only band I seem to have RF problems with and it comes 
regardless whether I'm running low power or QRO. Any suggestions would be 
greatly appreciated.
Mod-U-Lator,
Mike(y)
W3SLK 

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Re: [AMRadio] Telephone Wiring RFI Treatment

2006-12-17 Thread W4AWM
Since the problem is only there on 40 meters, one or both speaker leads may 
be resonant at the frequency used.  Try ferrite cores on the leads or change 
the lead length making sure they are nor resonant on any of the ham bands you 
use.

73, 

John,  W4AWM

  My problem with this has always been keeping RF out of the computer 
speakers 
on 40M. Its the only band I seem to have RF problems with...  
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Re: [AMRadio] Telephone Wiring RFI Treatment

2006-12-17 Thread Larry Knapp
Mike - I was successful getting rid of RF in my desktop computer speakers by 
using a split ferrite
core choke from MFJ by wrapping about four turns of the speaker leads around 
the choke then
closing the choke.  Never have rf into the computer speakers now when using any 
rig or even when
using my SB-200 at full power.  It's worth a try.
73, Larry KC8JX

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Since the problem is only there on 40 meters, one or both speaker leads may 
 be resonant at the frequency used.  Try ferrite cores on the leads or change 
 the lead length making sure they are nor resonant on any of the ham bands you 
 use.  73, John,  W4AWM
 
 Mike W3slk wrote:
 My problem with this has always been keeping RF out of the computer speakers 
 on 40M. Its the only band I seem to have RF problems with and it comes 
 regardless whether I'm running low power or QRO. Any suggestions would be 
 greatly appreciated.  Mod-U-Lator, Mike(y) W3SLK 


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Re: [AMRadio] the 3600 - 3635 spectrum

2006-12-17 Thread david knepper
Regardless, I am grateful for whomever  initiated this action, both at the 
FCC and within our ranks.


Merry Christmas

Dave, W3ST
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Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] the 3600 - 3635 spectrum



david knepper wrote:

I am really tired of all the grumbling.  Thank goodness they did not take 
any frequencies from us and you know that they could.


Let's be pleased for what we got.


Before we bang our heads on the ground groveling, keep in mind that these 
people owe their jobs to taxpayers (that's us).  This is not a gift from 
god, it is the government doing what it should for a change.


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[AMRadio] Coto Coil information

2006-12-17 Thread W1EOF

Anyone have a Coto Coil catalog, datasheet, or price list scanned? 
I've got a knob which I believe is Coto but I can't be sure.

Will be grateful for ANY information or pictures of Coto Coil.

73,

Mark W1EOF
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RE: [AMRadio] Telephone Wiring RFI Treatment

2006-12-17 Thread Stevan A. White
Try www.sandman.com.  Best site I know of for telephone related anything!

Also make sure you still have your twisted pair leads twisted all the way up
to their terminations and no phone wiring running parallel to power lines,
TV  satellite cables, etc.  Any place you have to cross other wiring with
phone lines, run them perpendicular to each other.  Said another way, make
sure telephone lines are run with up-to-date Category 3 or better twisted
pair wire and cross other wires and cables at 90 degree angles.

Best Regards,
Steve White, W5SAW
SW Commercial Electronics
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enough, we would never be afraid.  -- Earl Nightingale


-Original Message-
From: Mike Duke, K5XU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 12:57 PM
To: Discussion of AM Radio
Subject: [AMRadio] Telephone Wiring RFI Treatment


Here's one for those wishing a break from the current hot topic!

I need to do some maintenance on the telephone wiring in my house in order 
to cure a hum that is now constant on all phones.

While I'm at it, I'd like to take appropriate measures to eliminate, or at 
least reduce the rfi that occurs whenever I operate on 80 or 40 meters with 
any mode.


Which ferrite beads or filtering should I use, and should I place any such 
devices on the house side of the entry box rather than, or in addition to at

the connection point for each phone?

The rfi was present before the hum appeared, so I doubt curing the hum will 
cure the rfi, although it certainly might at least reduce it.



Mike Duke, K5XU
American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs





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