RE: [AMRadio] Audio Warble?

2007-09-13 Thread Bow
Thanks Grant

I'll have to figure out how to do that without a mic pre... I don't have
another one 



Bow

W5EFR


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Subject: RE: [AMRadio] Audio Warble?

> It seems that I am getting this warble even with nothing on except the 
> Phantom power on the VX-2000, and the EQ, UltraFlex and Compressor 
> turned off.

It was my impession from listening to the recording that I could hear
something going on before you turned on the expander in the VX-2000.

If you have a separate mic pre, have you tried leaving the VX-2000 out of
the mix altogether to see if the audio is clean without it?

Grant/NQ5T

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RE: [AMRadio] Audio Warble?

2007-09-13 Thread Grant Youngman
> It seems that I am getting this warble even with nothing on except the
> Phantom power on the VX-2000, and the EQ, UltraFlex and 
> Compressor turned
> off.

It was my impession from listening to the recording that I could hear
something going on before you turned on the expander in the VX-2000.

If you have a separate mic pre, have you tried leaving the VX-2000 out of
the mix altogether to see if the audio is clean without it?

Grant/NQ5T

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[AMRadio] Johnson Valiant Part Search

2007-09-13 Thread w0ng
I'm looking for the white solid ceramic post (4 inch tall, 1/2 diameter, 
threaded holes in both ends) for my Johnson Valiant transmitter that serves as 
a connector post for the three 6146 plate parasitic suppressor leads. If anyone 
has one they would consider selling, please contact me at w0ng at comcast dot 
net with a "shipped" price. I'm kinda desperate and have had no luck finding 
one. Appreciate any help in finding one. 73, Bill, w0ng
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RE: [AMRadio] Audio Warble?

2007-09-13 Thread Bow
Steven,

Thanks for the reply.

It seems that I am getting this warble even with nothing on except the
Phantom power on the VX-2000, and the EQ, UltraFlex and Compressor turned
off.

I even get it using a dynamic mic (Shure SM-57) instead of the condenser...

I wonder if my VX-2000 is heading south?

Bow

W5EFR


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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 00:13
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Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Audio Warble?

I listened to your audio clip.  It really sounds to me like all your FX
units are fighting each other to some degree.  Example:  I can tell you have
a fair amount of de-essing set on your VX2000, you also have a good amount
of high-mid and high EQ set on your PEQ-2200.  This in itself creates a
small amount of compression in those frequency ranges as they oppose each
other in the different units.  This also muddies up the sound as one unit
tries to cancel the effects of the other.  The complete opposite of what you
wanted to achieve, no doubt.  Then there's the matter of the EX-3200 AND the
Alesis Compressor.  They pretty much duplicate the stages included in your
mic processor.

I've been a broadcast engineer for more than half my life and I've set up a
lot of audio processing for production studios, FM transmitters, and AM
transmitters.  The best way to set ANY processing is one step at a time.
Follow the manufacturer's suggested starting points.  I'm actually a
Behringer fan and have used quite a bit of Behringer equipment.  Most
everyone that bad-mouths Behringer does it out of ignorance.  They haven't
read the book.  Behringer stuff will do an outstanding job for you IF you
read the book first.  They made the stuff, they can sure tell you how to
make it work.  Same goes with anybody else's products.  See what they say
and then experiment on your own from there.

So, follow the book's recommendations for basic setup and then spend a while
fine-tuning each parameter.  When you are satisfied with your mic proc,
sparingly add one of the other units and play with it for a while.  I'm
betting you won't be able to improve things much over what you get with your
mic proc since it is an "all-in-one" processor.  The "warble" you mentioned
is introduced early on in the mic proc.  If you follow the book's
recommendations and still get no satisfaction, yank it out altogether and
use just your mixer and your compressor by themselves.  It may be that the
mic proc has a problem.  Whatever you do, resist the urge to cascade the two
sides of your stereo units.  
Also, the surround proc setting will be of no use since you're not
processing a stereo signal.  It will introduce some funky junk you won't
like.

Add stages only if they produce a desirable result.  Otherwise leave them
out altogether.  Less IS more.  Really!  Let us know what you discover.

Best Regards,
Stevan A. White, W5SAW
SW Commercial Electronics
928 South Crockett Street
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Bow wrote:
> OK.. I was playing around with my Icom IC-718 and the audio setup that 
> I normally run for SSB.
>
> I was playing around with AM, because I have never used it for AM 
> before, and recording the audio, because someone on an internet forum 
> actually said the outboard processing is a waste on AM... (HUH?!?!?)
>
> Any way, I noticed this warble in the audio... Anyone have an idea of 
> what it is?
> I'm running:
>
> MXL V57M Condenser Mic
> Behringer VX2000 Mic Preamp
> Behringer PEQ-2200 5 Band Parametric EQ Behringer EX-3200 Ultrafex Pro 
> Alesis Compressor Behringer Mixer Then to the transmitter.
>
> The audio is injected through the ACC jack in the rear of the radio.
>
> >From just the Mic and Transmitter to the full rack, turned on 
> >one-by-one
>
> http://www.riley-music.com/BowsStuff/BlackFace/718AMRackSample.mp3
>
> The power setting was on the lowest setting and I was transmitting 
> into a dummy load. The warble was also there on a low power on-Air 
> check... But not while using SSB mode.
>
> Help?
>
> Bow
>
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Re: [AMRadio] 51J3 price

2007-09-13 Thread Michael Student
John, Recovered from the Big Party?
   
  Mike

John Lawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, david knepper wrote:

> $600 and up.
>

Previously, perhaps but in the last couple of months, even 
relatively 'nice' ones (J3s and R-388s) have only been going in the 
near-$400 range, and this seems to be trending down currently.


Not sure why this is... also it appears that R-390 prices are lowering, 
As and non-As alike, in general.



> - Original Message - From: "Gary Schafer" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:33 PM
> Subject: [AMRadio] 51J3 price
>
>
>> Can someone tell me what a 51J3 is going for these days? One was donated to
>> our club and they would like to sell it to raise funds for some projects.
>> The 51J3 is in very nice condition. Has top and bottom covers.
>> 
>> Thanks for the help.
>> Gary K4FMX



Cheers

John
KB6SCO
DM09fg








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Re: [AMRadio] Anybody on 3885?

2007-09-13 Thread Ellen Rugowski
MY bad on the awful typos.  SOrry about that .

Ellen - AF9J

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Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Anybody on 3885?


> Hi Jim,
>
> Unfortunately, when I took a break to eat a late supper, a group occupied
> the freq. !  Here's another thoughts - I took a look, and like a big dummy
I
> was calling CQ into the dummy load!! Ugh!  The band sounds like it's in
good
> shape.  I HAVE to get that VFO up and running, so I can get don around
3700,
> which isusually a lot loess occupied.Oh well, it looks like I'm
> going to have to wait.  I thought the latest group was going to sign
clear -
> no luck, just one of the roundtablers went clear.
>
> 73,
> Ellen - AF9J
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
> 
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Anybody on 3885?
>
>
> > Ill be on shortly as soon as the warm up delay on my 3cx800s goes off
> > wb5oxq
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Ellen Rugowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:05 PM
> > Subject: [AMRadio] Anybody on 3885?
> >
> >
> > > Is anybody on (or going to be on) 3885 tonight?  My noise level is
lower
> > > than it's been in ages (only S5-S6), and 3885 is clear (along with
being
> > > the only crystal I have for the Scout [until the VFO is up and
> running]).
> > > I called cQ for about 10 minutes, with no takers.
> > >
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Re: [AMRadio] Anybody on 3885?

2007-09-13 Thread Ellen Rugowski
Hi Jim,

Unfortunately, when I took a break to eat a late supper, a group occupied
the freq. !  Here's another thoughts - I took a look, and like a big dummy I
was calling CQ into the dummy load!! Ugh!  The band sounds like it's in good
shape.  I HAVE to get that VFO up and running, so I can get don around 3700,
which isusually a lot loess occupied.Oh well, it looks like I'm
going to have to wait.  I thought the latest group was going to sign clear -
no luck, just one of the roundtablers went clear.

73,
Ellen - AF9J
- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"

Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Anybody on 3885?


> Ill be on shortly as soon as the warm up delay on my 3cx800s goes off
> wb5oxq
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Ellen Rugowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:05 PM
> Subject: [AMRadio] Anybody on 3885?
>
>
> > Is anybody on (or going to be on) 3885 tonight?  My noise level is lower
> > than it's been in ages (only S5-S6), and 3885 is clear (along with being
> > the only crystal I have for the Scout [until the VFO is up and
running]).
> > I called cQ for about 10 minutes, with no takers.
> >
> > Ellen - AF9J
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Re: [AMRadio] Anybody on 3885?

2007-09-13 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco

Ill be on shortly as soon as the warm up delay on my 3cx800s goes off
wb5oxq

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From: "Ellen Rugowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:05 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] Anybody on 3885?


Is anybody on (or going to be on) 3885 tonight?  My noise level is lower 
than it's been in ages (only S5-S6), and 3885 is clear (along with being 
the only crystal I have for the Scout [until the VFO is up and running]). 
I called cQ for about 10 minutes, with no takers.


Ellen - AF9J
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Re: [AMRadio] 51J3 price

2007-09-13 Thread John Lawson



On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, david knepper wrote:


$600 and up.



  Previously, perhaps  but in the last couple of months, even 
relatively 'nice' ones (J3s and R-388s) have only been going in the 
near-$400 range, and this seems to be trending down currently.



   Not sure why this is... also it appears that R-390 prices are lowering, 
As and non-As alike, in general.





- Original Message - From: "Gary Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:33 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] 51J3 price



Can someone tell me what a 51J3 is going for these days? One was donated to
our club and they would like to sell it to raise funds for some projects.
The 51J3 is in very nice condition. Has top and bottom covers.

Thanks for the help.
Gary  K4FMX




  Cheers

John
KB6SCO
DM09fg








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[AMRadio] Anybody on 3885?

2007-09-13 Thread Ellen Rugowski
Is anybody on (or going to be on) 3885 tonight?  My noise level is lower than 
it's been in ages (only S5-S6), and 3885 is clear (along with being the only 
crystal I have for the Scout [until the VFO is up and running]).  I called cQ 
for about 10 minutes, with no takers.

Ellen - AF9J
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Re: [AMRadio] 51J3 price

2007-09-13 Thread david knepper

$600 and up.


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To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:33 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] 51J3 price


Can someone tell me what a 51J3 is going for these days? One was donated 
to

our club and they would like to sell it to raise funds for some projects.
The 51J3 is in very nice condition. Has top and bottom covers.

Thanks for the help.
Gary  K4FMX


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Re: [AMRadio] Transmitting Mica F2 -vs- G2 types

2007-09-13 Thread Jim Wilhite

Hey Brad, neat new call.

Jim/W5JO





Brad
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Formerly KB7FQR



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[AMRadio] 51J3 price

2007-09-13 Thread Gary Schafer
Can someone tell me what a 51J3 is going for these days? One was donated to
our club and they would like to sell it to raise funds for some projects.
The 51J3 is in very nice condition. Has top and bottom covers.

Thanks for the help.
Gary  K4FMX


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RE: [AMRadio] capacitors

2007-09-13 Thread Rick Brashear
Thanks to all for your help with my mica capacitor argument.  It seems the
silver mica won hands down from all of the personal and public email I
received.  That means I won the argument!  Man, that's a first.  My opponent
was adamant about "film" capacitors and while I agree in some instances they
would be just fine in general I think it's a safer bet to use silver mica.

Thanks everyone!
Rick/K5IAR

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Re: [AMRadio] Transmitting Mica F2 -vs- G2 types

2007-09-13 Thread A.R.S. - WA5AM
Sorry, I meant the two I have now are both 3000pF.  Yeah, that would
have worked out great Barrie.  I do plan to use the two 3000pF's in
series for 160m however...

Thanks,
Brian

On 9/13/07, Barrie Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why not put the two you have in there now in series?
>
> That would equal 750 pf, with plenty of voltage and current capability.
>
> 73, Barrie, W7ALW
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "A.R.S. - WA5AM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
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> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:01 AM
> Subject: [AMRadio] Transmitting Mica F2 -vs- G2 types
>
>
> > I am getting ready to convert my Gates BC-1T to 75 and 160 and need
> > some opinions on the loading cap.  The 1T uses fixed capacitance and a
> > variable inductor for loading.  I need about 750 pF for the loading
> > cap on 75 meters.  The original loading caps (two in parallel) are G2
> > micas at 8000 vdc, however they are both 1500 pF.  I have a type F2B
> > that is 800 pF at 6000 vdc, that would be close enough, but I'm afraid
> > it may not handle the current.  The F2 is a much smaller unit than the
> > G2's that are in there now.  Anyone have any opinions on what the F2
> > can handle?  Being on a higher freq. than original design I think the
> > 6KV rating might be okay, but I'm still concerned with the current
> > rating of the F2 as opposed to the type G2.
> >
> > Nebraska Surplus has what I'm looking for, but they want $175 for it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brian / wa5am
> >
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Re: [AMRadio] Transmitting Mica F2 -vs- G2 types

2007-09-13 Thread Barrie Smith
Why not put the two you have in there now in series?

That would equal 750 pf, with plenty of voltage and current capability.

73, Barrie, W7ALW


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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:01 AM
Subject: [AMRadio] Transmitting Mica F2 -vs- G2 types


> I am getting ready to convert my Gates BC-1T to 75 and 160 and need
> some opinions on the loading cap.  The 1T uses fixed capacitance and a
> variable inductor for loading.  I need about 750 pF for the loading
> cap on 75 meters.  The original loading caps (two in parallel) are G2
> micas at 8000 vdc, however they are both 1500 pF.  I have a type F2B
> that is 800 pF at 6000 vdc, that would be close enough, but I'm afraid
> it may not handle the current.  The F2 is a much smaller unit than the
> G2's that are in there now.  Anyone have any opinions on what the F2
> can handle?  Being on a higher freq. than original design I think the
> 6KV rating might be okay, but I'm still concerned with the current
> rating of the F2 as opposed to the type G2.
>
> Nebraska Surplus has what I'm looking for, but they want $175 for it.
>
> Thanks,
> Brian / wa5am
>
>
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Re: [AMRadio] capacitors

2007-09-13 Thread ne1s
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Subject: [AMRadio] capacitors
Date: Thu, September 13, 2007 10:52
From: "Rick Brashear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> What is the general consensus here on the reflector as to which type of
> capacitor should be used in place of the old molded mica capacitors?
>

If it's really a mica, I'd replace it with a silver mica, or if you need a
voltage rating beyond 500V, use a "snubber capacitor" (which I THINK is a
silver-mica, made by Cornell-Dublier, sold by Mouser. Usual disclaimers
apply).

If it's one of those mica look-alike wannabes, but really a wax-paber
capacitor (typically vales .01uF and above), replace it with a mylar cap.

-Larry/NE1S
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[AMRadio] wanted flex radio for 390 A

2007-09-13 Thread uvcm inc.
I have a very clean R390 A (not despotized), all matching modules, new
tubes, diode pick, new caps in critical areas, 1963 model etc etc

 

Want to trade for Flex radio

 

Brad 

 

N7RCA

 

Former KB7FQR

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RE: [AMRadio] Transmitting Mica F2 -vs- G2 types

2007-09-13 Thread uvcm inc.

I have a BC1G I also want to convert from 960 to 3870, I have lots of caps
and other stuff.
YOU HELP ME I HELP YOU, (Maxwell smart 1965)

Brad
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[AMRadio] Transmitting Mica F2 -vs- G2 types

2007-09-13 Thread A.R.S. - WA5AM
I am getting ready to convert my Gates BC-1T to 75 and 160 and need
some opinions on the loading cap.  The 1T uses fixed capacitance and a
variable inductor for loading.  I need about 750 pF for the loading
cap on 75 meters.  The original loading caps (two in parallel) are G2
micas at 8000 vdc, however they are both 1500 pF.  I have a type F2B
that is 800 pF at 6000 vdc, that would be close enough, but I'm afraid
it may not handle the current.  The F2 is a much smaller unit than the
G2's that are in there now.  Anyone have any opinions on what the F2
can handle?  Being on a higher freq. than original design I think the
6KV rating might be okay, but I'm still concerned with the current
rating of the F2 as opposed to the type G2.

Nebraska Surplus has what I'm looking for, but they want $175 for it.

Thanks,
Brian / wa5am


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RE: [AMRadio] capacitors

2007-09-13 Thread Rick Brashear
Do you have trouble finding the proper capacitance in higher voltages, 600
wvdc and up?

Thanks,
Rick/K5IAR


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I use new Silver Mica Capacitors and have never had any issues with them. 
Tolerances are tighter, case is improved and they are inexpensive.

One hams opinion...


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Re: [AMRadio] capacitors

2007-09-13 Thread W6OM
I use new Silver Mica Capacitors and have never had any issues with them. 
Tolerances are tighter, case is improved and they are inexpensive.


One hams opinion...

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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:52 AM
Subject: [AMRadio] capacitors



What is the general consensus here on the reflector as to which type of
capacitor should be used in place of the old molded mica capacitors?

...I hope to settle an argument with your results. :-)

Thanks,
Rick/K5IAR

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[AMRadio] capacitors

2007-09-13 Thread Rick Brashear
What is the general consensus here on the reflector as to which type of
capacitor should be used in place of the old molded mica capacitors?

...I hope to settle an argument with your results. :-)

Thanks,
Rick/K5IAR

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RE: [AMRadio] Audio Warble?

2007-09-13 Thread Ed Sieb
Bow,

I suggest that something early in the chain is generating a low-frequency
oscillation, which is beating with your audio, particularly your lows,
generating a form of intermodulation distortion. .  Maybe something in the
Behringer VX2000 Mic Preamp is either taking off, or maybe it's low-level 60
Hz hum?

Ed, VA3ES

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Re: [AMRadio] Audio Warble?

2007-09-13 Thread Bry Carling
Bow - I think a LIMITER is nice for AM. Maybe you could add that 
to the chain (LOL) and how about adding a T.C. Helicon CREATE
for when you want to add that "Jazz Effect" to your transmission, hi 
hi
 
> OK.. I was playing around with my Icom IC-718 and the audio setup that I
> normally run for SSB.
> 
> I was playing around with AM, because I have never used it for AM before,
> and recording the audio, because someone on an internet forum actually said
> the outboard processing is a waste on AM... (HUH?!?!?)
> 
> Any way, I noticed this warble in the audio... Anyone have an idea of what
> it is?
> I'm running:
> 
> MXL V57M Condenser Mic
> Behringer VX2000 Mic Preamp
> Behringer PEQ-2200 5 Band Parametric EQ
> Behringer EX-3200 Ultrafex Pro
> Alesis Compressor
> Behringer Mixer
> Then to the transmitter.
> 
> The audio is injected through the ACC jack in the rear of the radio.
> 
> >From just the Mic and Transmitter to the full rack, turned on one-by-one
> 
> http://www.riley-music.com/BowsStuff/BlackFace/718AMRackSample.mp3
> 
> The power setting was on the lowest setting and I was transmitting into a
> dummy load. The warble was also there on a low power on-Air check... But not
> while using SSB mode.
> 
> Help?
> 
> Bow
> 
> W5EFR
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