Re: [AMRadio] Re: New AM Swap list

2008-03-08 Thread A.R.S. - WA5AM
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 10:33 PM, Gary Schafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No one was erroneously put on the swap list. All that was done was to split
>  up the Am radio list into AM radio and AM swap list. All the subscribers
>  were also set up on the AM swap list by the kindness of the list
>  administrator.
>  It is no different than when the list was moved to another server and all
>  the members were moved by the administrator.
>
>  But since some people apparently bitched about being signed up on a list
>  without them doing it themselves (probably before they read what was going
>  on) the administrator removed all from the new list and advised everyone to
>  sign up themselves. So much for him trying to be helpful.
>

Thank You Gary!

73 - Brian / wa5am
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RE: [AMRadio] Re: New AM Swap list

2008-03-08 Thread Gary Schafer
No one was erroneously put on the swap list. All that was done was to split
up the Am radio list into AM radio and AM swap list. All the subscribers
were also set up on the AM swap list by the kindness of the list
administrator.
It is no different than when the list was moved to another server and all
the members were moved by the administrator.

But since some people apparently bitched about being signed up on a list
without them doing it themselves (probably before they read what was going
on) the administrator removed all from the new list and advised everyone to
sign up themselves. So much for him trying to be helpful.

73
Gary  K4FMX

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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 10:36 PM
> To: amradio@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [AMRadio] Re: New AM Swap list
> 
> 
> 
> What did I do wrong?
> 
>  First, I received a welcome message telling me how to unsubscribe.
> 
>  Then a received a "Dear John" with no information other than you're out!
> 
> 
> 
> I and many others received the same "stuff" in their inboxes
> recentlyleaving me to wonder when I had subscribed to another email
> list..then it
> occured to me, someone without asking first, dumped my email address among
> others
> into a new list.
> 
> You knowit would have been great to have been told about such a new
> list
>  -BEFORE- someone subscribed me to it. My email address is not a free for
> all
> for anyone to use as they see fit. Domain names get black listed when acts
> like the above mentioned occurs. Next time whomever creates a
> list...create it,
> test it with your own email addresses then put the word out. Auto
> subscribing
> some email addresses that are not yours to list without prior consent is
> just
> plain wrong.
> 
> Bob Carter - KC4QLP

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[AMRadio] Re: New AM Swap list

2008-03-08 Thread KC4QLP


What did I do wrong?
  
 First, I received a welcome message telling me how to unsubscribe.
  
 Then a received a "Dear John" with no information other than you're out! 



I and many others received the same "stuff" in their inboxes 
recentlyleaving me to wonder when I had subscribed to another email 
list..then it 
occured to me, someone without asking first, dumped my email address among 
others 
into a new list.

You knowit would have been great to have been told about such a new list
 -BEFORE- someone subscribed me to it. My email address is not a free for all 
for anyone to use as they see fit. Domain names get black listed when acts 
like the above mentioned occurs. Next time whomever creates a list...create it, 
test it with your own email addresses then put the word out. Auto subscribing 
some email addresses that are not yours to list without prior consent is just 
plain wrong.

Bob Carter - KC4QLP
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Re: [AMRadio] Ice Storm

2008-03-08 Thread doxemf

Hadn't thought of that !
Makes sense for a mostly resistive type load.
 I had been thinking from a dipole or ballanced line standpoint where 
you could actually heat up the wire at the current nodes due to the 
miss match.

Bill, KB3DKS

-Original Message-
From: Joe Crawford
I knew a guy who used a 30 amp variac to feed a 5 volt, 30 amp filament
transformer on his quad driven element.Worked real good to melt the ice.
  Joe W4AAB


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Re: [AMRadio] Ice Storm

2008-03-08 Thread Robert Lawson

Bob,

I'll make you a real deal.   You send me yall's ice,  I'll send you our 
HurricanesOK?


Hope all of your sky hooks put themselves back into pre-iced forms 
soon...really. 
I do know where there is lots of hot air, but discussing very recent 
political debates on TV is certainly not proper on this forum.


73 es bst of luck with ur antennas.

Robert W4RL Pensacola Florida



Bob Bruno - K2KI wrote:

Hey all,

This is pointed mostly to the New England folks who are getting hit 
hard with Freezing rain.


I just came from outside where I had to "beat" my wire antennas to 
knock off the better that 1/4" of ice that has accumulated over the 
past hour.


My TH6DXX is also getting hammered but I can't get to it. :-(

Go out and knock the ice off before the ice "Knocks-off" your antennas.

Good luck es 73...

Bob de k2ki
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Re: [AMRadio] Ice Storm

2008-03-08 Thread Joe Crawford
I knew a guy who used a 30 amp variac to feed a 5 volt, 30 amp filament 
transformer on his quad driven element.Worked real good to melt the ice.

  Joe W4AAB
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To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 


Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Ice Storm


Not sure how that would work on the beam. I used to do something similar 
on an old loop I had up. I would feed it with a filament xfrmr and 
resistor. Lemme tell ya Mr. Bubby, you could see the ice fall from it. :-)


73, cul...
Bob de k2ki

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm probably way off base here, but couldn't you feed power to the 
antenna and/or feedline at a non resonany frq. and heat it up. Shouldn't 
take much to loosen up the ice enough to easily break loose.

 Ya got to have some power but why wouldn't it work?

Bill, KB3DKS.


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Re: [AMRadio] Ice Storm

2008-03-08 Thread Bob Bruno - K2KI
Not sure how that would work on the beam. I used to do something similar 
on an old loop I had up. I would feed it with a filament xfrmr and 
resistor. Lemme tell ya Mr. Bubby, you could see the ice fall from it. :-)


73, cul...
Bob de k2ki

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm probably way off base here, but couldn't you feed power to the 
antenna and/or feedline at a non resonany frq. and heat it up. 
Shouldn't take much to loosen up the ice enough to easily break loose.

 Ya got to have some power but why wouldn't it work?

Bill, KB3DKS.


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Re: [AMRadio] Ice Storm

2008-03-08 Thread doxemf
I'm probably way off base here, but couldn't you feed power to the 
antenna and/or feedline at a non resonany frq. and heat it up. 
Shouldn't take much to loosen up the ice enough to easily break loose.

 Ya got to have some power but why wouldn't it work?

Bill, KB3DKS.

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Re: [AMRadio] Ice Storm

2008-03-08 Thread Bob Bruno - K2KI
Hmmm. I wonder if I can get my ex-wife up here to do that for me :-) am EVIL>


73, cul...
Bob de k2ki

Barrie Smith wrote:



If the ice is very thick, I wouldn't stand under the antenna or tower 
to do it.  I would find a stick long enough to be far away.


Jim/W5JO

Or have someone else do it.
Barrie, W7ALW

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Re: [AMRadio] Ice Storm

2008-03-08 Thread Barrie Smith



If the ice is very thick, I wouldn't stand under the antenna or tower to 
do it.  I would find a stick long enough to be far away.


Jim/W5JO

Or have someone else do it.
Barrie, W7ALW

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Re: [AMRadio] Ice Storm

2008-03-08 Thread Jim Wilhite
If the ice is very thick, I wouldn't stand under the antenna or tower to 
do it.  I would find a stick long enough to be far away.


Jim/W5JO




A homebrew tennis ball launcher fired at the boom might knock the ice 
loose for antennas up to high to do it by hand. Or smacking the tower 
legs with a dead blow plastic hammer.


Mike
WE0H



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Re: [AMRadio] Ice Storm

2008-03-08 Thread Bob Bruno - K2KI

Hi Mike,

I would really love to have a tennis ball launcher. I saw a YouTube 
video demonstrating one.


I tried the hammer part. It took some off the tower and maybe some off 
the ends but that's it.


Thanks for the reply...
73, cul...
Bob de k2ki

Mike WE0H wrote:
A homebrew tennis ball launcher fired at the boom might knock the ice 
loose for antennas up to high to do it by hand. Or smacking the tower 
legs with a dead blow plastic hammer.


Mike
WE0H


Bob Bruno - K2KI wrote:

Hey all,

This is pointed mostly to the New England folks who are getting hit 
hard with Freezing rain.


I just came from outside where I had to "beat" my wire antennas to 
knock off the better that 1/4" of ice that has accumulated over the 
past hour.


My TH6DXX is also getting hammered but I can't get to it. :-(

Go out and knock the ice off before the ice "Knocks-off" your antennas.

Good luck es 73...

Bob de k2ki



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Re: [AMRadio] Ice Storm

2008-03-08 Thread Mike WE0H
A homebrew tennis ball launcher fired at the boom might knock the ice 
loose for antennas up to high to do it by hand. Or smacking the tower 
legs with a dead blow plastic hammer.


Mike
WE0H


Bob Bruno - K2KI wrote:

Hey all,

This is pointed mostly to the New England folks who are getting hit 
hard with Freezing rain.


I just came from outside where I had to "beat" my wire antennas to 
knock off the better that 1/4" of ice that has accumulated over the 
past hour.


My TH6DXX is also getting hammered but I can't get to it. :-(

Go out and knock the ice off before the ice "Knocks-off" your antennas.

Good luck es 73...

Bob de k2ki


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[AMRadio] Ice Storm

2008-03-08 Thread Bob Bruno - K2KI

Hey all,

This is pointed mostly to the New England folks who are getting hit hard 
with Freezing rain.


I just came from outside where I had to "beat" my wire antennas to knock 
off the better that 1/4" of ice that has accumulated over the past hour.


My TH6DXX is also getting hammered but I can't get to it. :-(

Go out and knock the ice off before the ice "Knocks-off" your antennas.

Good luck es 73...

Bob de k2ki
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[AMRadio] OT: Why do some people capitalise "ham"? Let's try English 101

2008-03-08 Thread Zengmeiste

 Gents, 

   S'amazing how an innocuous question can engender myriad responses,
 so let's try this one. Read QST? Notice how once hyphenated terms have
 become de-hyphenated, which totally changes their meaning? S'not just 
 QST, is media in general. Very disturbing, looks like American English
 is being Europeanized. (apologies to our friends across the big pond)

  Bad move! Won't be able to call them 10-watt resistors, grounded-grids,
 multi-tap transformers, crystal-controlled oscillators no more, no-how.

   Real examples from QST, Feb 2008:
  circularly polarized antenna; direct conversion receiver;
  dual band and dual-band in the same sentence; [g...]
  high end performance; 32 bit; floating point; dsp based; 
  qrm proof; noise blanker; self contained; built in; auto tuning;
  
QRM proof is whatcha get when you wave that el-cheapo SW receiver
 around and hear the hash.  Auto tuning is something my mechanic does.

 QST's staff never hear or have forgotten about compound adjectives?
  Or were they out of class the day they were taught?

 And no more 5-speed manual-transmissions, neither.  
  The only manual transmission stuff I do is downloading stuff from BAMA.
  Bye-bye snow-cones, astro-turf, second-hand goodies, low-level distortion
  (well, that would not be a bad thing), and Daisy-Dukes. Ouch!

   Like the man said, the times, they are a-changin'. Er, a changin'. 
 
   Me, I LIKE hyphens. I LIKE talking about multi-directional, 
  circularly-polarized, lightning-resistant antennas, ultra-selective
  filters, temperature-compensated oscillators, variable-width IFs...

 It's a sad, sad place we've come to, gents. I hope it 
 doesn't get worse, they'll start taking out the apostrophes next...

73, Terry Bakowski  KC9KEL,
 
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