Re: [AMRadio] 3600-3700
I'm puzzled by their premise. CW can already be utilized between 3600-3700Kc, limited only by license class. What is their point? Reserved space for operators who seldom showed up was the reason the FCC scaled back the size of the reservation, to more closely match the level of activity. But to Don't point, ues, it's up to everyone to populate a clear spot on the dial with whatever mode or activity can fit. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] 3600-3700
Maybe things will improve when the propagation returns to a higher level. Right now IT'S IN THE TANK! Bob Macklin K5MYJ Kent (Seattle), Wa, Real Radios Glow in the Dark - Original Message - From: VJB wa3...@yahoo.com To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 4:34 AM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 3600-3700 I'm puzzled by their premise. CW can already be utilized between 3600-3700Kc, limited only by license class. What is their point? Reserved space for operators who seldom showed up was the reason the FCC scaled back the size of the reservation, to more closely match the level of activity. But to Don't point, ues, it's up to everyone to populate a clear spot on the dial with whatever mode or activity can fit. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] 3600-3700
Propagation is very good here on 75/80 and 160. When the sunspots come back up, the lower frequencies suffer. I think the whiners must be some of the digital crowd, not CW ops. I just need to get back on the air. I believe I do have a 3638 crystal.I am about to trade my AM Ghetto crystals. Joe W4AAB - Original Message - From: Bob Macklin macklin...@msn.com To: wa3...@yahoo.com; Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 7:37 AM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 3600-3700 Maybe things will improve when the propagation returns to a higher level. Right now IT'S IN THE TANK! Bob Macklin K5MYJ Kent (Seattle), Wa, Real Radios Glow in the Dark - Original Message - From: VJB wa3...@yahoo.com To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 4:34 AM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 3600-3700 I'm puzzled by their premise. CW can already be utilized between 3600-3700Kc, limited only by license class. What is their point? Reserved space for operators who seldom showed up was the reason the FCC scaled back the size of the reservation, to more closely match the level of activity. But to Don't point, ues, it's up to everyone to populate a clear spot on the dial with whatever mode or activity can fit. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Effort afoot to reclaim 3600-3700 CW subband
Every body that wants to run A.M. go ahead and move down to the extra band, then don't ask why A.M. is a dying mode !! A lot of working stiff still have to work 40 to 60 hrs a week, and for what ever reason don't have our extra but I really love A.M. Got to say, I'm beginning to feel like it's a one way relationship , you see. I'm not retired yet, and no I don't have a room full of old tube xmitters (but would love to have )Do have a old DX 40 that I'm close to getting on the air, and a three tube 811 amp, that may allow me to get into a short QSO with some of you. It's really sad that in order to be in the group you've got to run a tube xmitter and a amp, at 300 to 800 watts, other wise, your just noise, and something to be tolerated with a short reply, and then move on to another big rig sounding station. This will most likely be my last post, sorry about the bitter mood, just letting my feeling show I guess. Maybe after the bands get better in a few years, I can have a little A.M. fun on 10 20 meters. A.M.,,,the EXTRA mode Bob Carpenter KB4WEC bcarpenter_...@bellsouth.net -Original Message- From: amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of QED Consultants Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 5:35 PM To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Effort afoot to reclaim 3600-3700 CW subband Hi Don: what does he even mean by these percentages? if he would treat cw at abt 500 cycles then there is almost no cw use. I have been running at or below 3.7 for weeks, last night I could not find a spot from 3675 to 3710 called cq on 3725and a guy on ssb came back and commented how good the audio sounded, he said it sounded as good as AM. I told him to put the rx on AM and have a good laugh. I think I will start dropping down to the 3650 to 3675 range. Bernie - Original Message - From: D. Chester k4...@charter.net To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 4:22 PM Subject: [AMRadio] Effort afoot to reclaim 3600-3700 CW subband The following message is being forwarded around on the internet via e-mail and on some of the mailing lists. They do have a point. There is very little phone activity in this portion of the band, now that the novelty of the expanded phone band has worn off. Why not re-warm the band with AM? I'll be exercising my 3620 kHz xtal a little more often. (QUOTE): Since the changes were made taking away exclusive use of the 3600-3700 portion of the 80 meter band for CW, I have done extensive monitoring in it. There is very little use of this portion of the band now. I have heard some ssb activity in the upper 25 khz (3675-3700). Percentage of use during a one month period is less than 10%. From 3650-3675, percentage is less than 7%. From 3600-3650, percentage is less than 4%. That is an awful waste of band space. There has been ample time for someone to make use of these frequencies. Since they are not being used enough, I think it should be given back to CW/RTTY/Digital. During contest weekends, the present allocation of frequencies for CW,etc. makes it almost unusable for net operation and QSO's. Who else should I contact with these recommendations and statistics? I will be glad to do so. Me and thousands of other CW ops would like to see this portion given back to us. Thanks for your help and 73, Rodney Baker, W5DY STX Section Traffic Manager Tex CW Asst Net Manager TCC Member ORS (END QUOTE) Click or copy/paste the following link to read some of the replies to this message: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/cw/2009-January/subject.html Don k4kyv ___ This message was typed using the DVORAK keyboard layout. http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/ http://gigliwood.com/abcd/ __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net
[AMRadio] Heath manuals gone?
ARRL reports a company has bought the rights to the Heathkit manuals. Just checked BAMA and they are no longer there, or I was looking at it crosseyed. Wonder what they will buy next? Charlie W4MEC __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Effort afoot to reclaim 3600-3700 CW subband
I run a DX 60B on AM and enjoy many Son's. Yes the SB200 is ready if need and gives me a 250watt voice. But it is enjoyable to qso at 50 watts for qsos within about 500 miles. I also use the HG-10 for qsos in the lower parts of rthe 80 and 40 meter bands as well as crystals in the getto. See you there. Don W4BWS - Original Message - From: Bob Carpenter bcarpenter_...@bellsouth.net To: 'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service' amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Effort afoot to reclaim 3600-3700 CW subband Every body that wants to run A.M. go ahead and move down to the extra band, then don't ask why A.M. is a dying mode !! A lot of working stiff still have to work 40 to 60 hrs a week, and for what ever reason don't have our extra but I really love A.M. Got to say, I'm beginning to feel like it's a one way relationship , you see. I'm not retired yet, and no I don't have a room full of old tube xmitters (but would love to have )Do have a old DX 40 that I'm close to getting on the air, and a three tube 811 amp, that may allow me to get into a short QSO with some of you. It's really sad that in order to be in the group you've got to run a tube xmitter and a amp, at 300 to 800 watts, other wise, your just noise, and something to be tolerated with a short reply, and then move on to another big rig sounding station. This will most likely be my last post, sorry about the bitter mood, just letting my feeling show I guess. Maybe after the bands get better in a few years, I can have a little A.M. fun on 10 20 meters. A.M.,,,the EXTRA mode Bob Carpenter KB4WEC bcarpenter_...@bellsouth.net -Original Message- From: amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of QED Consultants Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 5:35 PM To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Effort afoot to reclaim 3600-3700 CW subband Hi Don: what does he even mean by these percentages? if he would treat cw at abt 500 cycles then there is almost no cw use. I have been running at or below 3.7 for weeks, last night I could not find a spot from 3675 to 3710 called cq on 3725and a guy on ssb came back and commented how good the audio sounded, he said it sounded as good as AM. I told him to put the rx on AM and have a good laugh. I think I will start dropping down to the 3650 to 3675 range. Bernie - Original Message - From: D. Chester k4...@charter.net To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 4:22 PM Subject: [AMRadio] Effort afoot to reclaim 3600-3700 CW subband The following message is being forwarded around on the internet via e-mail and on some of the mailing lists. They do have a point. There is very little phone activity in this portion of the band, now that the novelty of the expanded phone band has worn off. Why not re-warm the band with AM? I'll be exercising my 3620 kHz xtal a little more often. (QUOTE): Since the changes were made taking away exclusive use of the 3600-3700 portion of the 80 meter band for CW, I have done extensive monitoring in it. There is very little use of this portion of the band now. I have heard some ssb activity in the upper 25 khz (3675-3700). Percentage of use during a one month period is less than 10%. From 3650-3675, percentage is less than 7%. From 3600-3650, percentage is less than 4%. That is an awful waste of band space. There has been ample time for someone to make use of these frequencies. Since they are not being used enough, I think it should be given back to CW/RTTY/Digital. During contest weekends, the present allocation of frequencies for CW,etc. makes it almost unusable for net operation and QSO's. Who else should I contact with these recommendations and statistics? I will be glad to do so. Me and thousands of other CW ops would like to see this portion given back to us. Thanks for your help and 73, Rodney Baker, W5DY STX Section Traffic Manager Tex CW Asst Net Manager TCC Member ORS (END QUOTE) Click or copy/paste the following link to read some of the replies to this message: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/cw/2009-January/subject.html Don k4kyv ___ This message was typed using the DVORAK keyboard layout. http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/ http://gigliwood.com/abcd/ __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the
Re: [AMRadio] Heath manuals gone?
David Knepper, W3ST/W3CRA Editor of the Collins Journal Collins Radio Association www.collinsra.com Join the CRA - Original Message - From: charles L. mjca...@yahoo.com To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 10:01 AM Subject: [AMRadio] Heath manuals gone? ARRL reports a company has bought the rights to the Heathkit manuals. Just checked BAMA and they are no longer there, or I was looking at it crosseyed. Wonder what they will buy next? Charlie W4MEC __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Effort afoot to reclaim 3600-3700 CW subband
Hi Rob, True there is AM activity in the extra portion of the band.This was part of the motivation for me to upgrade after being a Tech/General from !960 to Dec of last year.There is a lot of activity in the general portion also, listen up around 3880 or so Many stations use their SS rigs with power in the 30/ 40 watt range and do quite well.That should be enuff for good signals in the 3/500 mile range, on 40/80 meters. When we get some propagation, on 10 meters,50 watts and a decent ground plane or dipole gets you worldwide.Give it a whirl, you will be surprised WA2FNS In a message dated 1/9/2009 10:04:58 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, w4...@comcast.net writes: I run a DX 60B on AM and enjoy many Son's. Yes the SB200 is ready if need and gives me a 250watt voice. But it is enjoyable to qso at 50 watts for qsos within about 500 miles. I also use the HG-10 for qsos in the lower parts of rthe 80 and 40 meter bands as well as crystals in the getto. See you there. Don W4BWS - Original Message - From: Bob Carpenter bcarpenter_...@bellsouth.net To: 'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service' amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Effort afoot to reclaim 3600-3700 CW subband Every body that wants to run A.M. go ahead and move down to the extra band, then don't ask why A.M. is a dying mode !! A lot of working stiff still have to work 40 to 60 hrs a week, and for what ever reason don't have our extra but I really love A.M. Got to say, I'm beginning to feel like it's a one way relationship , you see. I'm not retired yet, and no I don't have a room full of old tube xmitters (but would love to have )Do have a old DX 40 that I'm close to getting on the air, and a three tube 811 amp, that may allow me to get into a short QSO with some of you. It's really sad that in order to be in the group you've got to run a tube xmitter and a amp, at 300 to 800 watts, other wise, your just noise, and something to be tolerated with a short reply, and then move on to another big rig sounding station. This will most likely be my last post, sorry about the bitter mood, just letting my feeling show I guess. Maybe after the bands get better in a few years, I can have a little A.M. fun on 10 20 meters. A.M.,,,the EXTRA mode Bob Carpenter KB4WEC bcarpenter_...@bellsouth.net -Original Message- From: amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of QED Consultants Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 5:35 PM To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Effort afoot to reclaim 3600-3700 CW subband Hi Don: what does he even mean by these percentages? if he would treat cw at abt 500 cycles then there is almost no cw use. I have been running at or below 3.7 for weeks, last night I could not find a spot from 3675 to 3710 called cq on 3725and a guy on ssb came back and commented how good the audio sounded, he said it sounded as good as AM. I told him to put the rx on AM and have a good laugh. I think I will start dropping down to the 3650 to 3675 range. Bernie - Original Message - From: D. Chester k4...@charter.net To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 4:22 PM Subject: [AMRadio] Effort afoot to reclaim 3600-3700 CW subband The following message is being forwarded around on the internet via e-mail and on some of the mailing lists. They do have a point. There is very little phone activity in this portion of the band, now that the novelty of the expanded phone band has worn off. Why not re-warm the band with AM? I'll be exercising my 3620 kHz xtal a little more often. (QUOTE): Since the changes were made taking away exclusive use of the 3600-3700 portion of the 80 meter band for CW, I have done extensive monitoring in it. There is very little use of this portion of the band now. I have heard some ssb activity in the upper 25 khz (3675-3700). Percentage of use during a one month period is less than 10%. From 3650-3675, percentage is less than 7%. From 3600-3650, percentage is less than 4%. That is an awful waste of band space. There has been ample time for someone to make use of these frequencies. Since they are not being used enough, I think it should be given back to CW/RTTY/Digital. During contest weekends, the present allocation of frequencies for CW,etc. makes it almost unusable for net operation and QSO's. Who else should I contact with these recommendations and statistics? I will be glad to do so. Me and thousands of other CW ops would like to see this portion given back to us. Thanks for your help and 73, Rodney Baker, W5DY STX Section Traffic Manager Tex CW Asst Net Manager TCC Member ORS (END QUOTE) Click
[AMRadio] [CW] Fw: 3600-3700 frequencies
Returning 3600-3700 kc to CW mode only operation is a solution looking for a problem, as CW mode operation is already allowed there. I do operate CW between 3600-3700 kc but there is little in the way of activity there. Even 3500-3525 kc has little activity also compared to 5-10 years ago. I also operate AM regularly on 3675 kc and SSB on 3690 kc From hear in Florida I see more SSB activity between 3600-3700 kc than I do CW between 3500-3525 kc. I became an Advanced class ham in 1990 with the callsign KN4LF. I passed the 13 wpm for my General also in 1990. I was against dropping the 20 wpm code test for Extra and out of protest did not get my Extra for the next 7-8 years. I did recently pass the Extra exam and am awaiting my new 2 x 1 call of WU5D. I finally upgraded to get at all of the DX between 7000-7025 kc and 14000-14025 kc. I have confirmed 8 new countries on 40 meters since upgrading bringing my DXCC total to 200. I did find the Extra class exam easy. Not because I memorized the answers but because I already new the material from being a ham for 20 years. I certainly could not memorize the answers to the math related questions so spent a month learning how to figure it all out. Memorizing almost 800 questions and passing the Extra class exam without understanding the material is beyond my capability and I'm no dummy. BTW the AM group that operates on 3675 kc that I check into used to operate on 3880 kc but moved down when 3600-3700 kc opened up for phone operation. Instead of whining about being left out of the group as an Advanced class ham I passed my Extra. 73 GUD DX, Thomas F. Giella, KN4LF Lakeland, FL, USA kn...@arrl.net KN4LF Amateur SWL Radio Autobiography: http://www.kn4lf.com __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
[AMRadio] Here is Where the 813's are Going Now
http://tinyurl.com/a7hkvr -- *** Dave N7RK Boatanchors Home Page: http://members.cox.net/n7rk Phoenix, Arizona *DXCC Honor Roll**WAZ#22 - 75 Meter SSB* ex-XE2/N7RK, N7RK/ZB2, VK2ERK, ZM0AJN, WB6NRK, WN6IWX Boatanchor and Antique Radio Collector __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Effort afoot to reclaim 3600-3700 CW subband
When I get on the air, class of license is not a prerequisite with me. If an amateur can put more then one syllable words together in a somewhat logical fashion, I will engage them in a QSO on whatever frequency is legal for us. Pete, wa2cwa On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 08:19:46 -0600 Jim Wilhite w...@brightok.net writes: Some of it is habit. Another reason is that those of us who are Extra wish to talk to those who are General Class and it is the known gathering area. But there is no reason we can't move after making contact. General class guys can move down to 3.8, so why not find an empty place and have another QSO going elsewhere, I don't know. Some of the guys on this reflector have urged moving to other segments of the band, particularly 3.6 to 3.7, but no one seems to follow. I do hope you will break the mold and not feel that anyone wants to ostracize you for your equipment. Jim/W5JO __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Effort afoot to reclaim 3600-3700 CW subband
Most of my tube gear has been sitting around idle for quite a while. I'm having more fun operating AM, and other modes, with a Flex 5000. I love the mode; the type of equipment is far less important to me. Pete, wa2cwa On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 09:18:45 -0500 Bob Carpenter bcarpenter_...@bellsouth.net writes: Every body that wants to run A.M. go ahead and move down to the extra band, then don't ask why A.M. is a dying mode !! A lot of working stiff still have to work 40 to 60 hrs a week, and for what ever reason don't have our extra but I really love A.M. Got to say, I'm beginning to feel like it's a one way relationship , you see. I'm not retired yet, and no I don't have a room full of old tube xmitters (but would love to have )Do have a old DX 40 that I'm close to getting on the air, and a three tube 811 amp, that may allow me to get into a short QSO with some of you. It's really sad that in order to be in the group you've got to run a tube xmitter and a amp, at 300 to 800 watts, other wise, your just noise, and something to be tolerated with a short reply, and then move on to another big rig sounding station. This will most likely be my last post, sorry about the bitter mood, just letting my feeling show I guess. Maybe after the bands get better in a few years, I can have a little A.M. fun on 10 20 meters. A.M.,,,the EXTRA mode __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Effort afoot to reclaim 3600-3700 CW subband
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Bob Carpenter bcarpenter_...@bellsouth.net wrote: Every body that wants to run A.M. go ahead and move down to the extra band, then don't ask why A.M. is a dying mode !! A lot of working stiff still have to work 40 to 60 hrs a week, and for what ever reason don't have our extra but I really love A.M. AM isn't a dying mode from where I sit, it's one of the few modes that seems to be gaining in activity through new interest. Many of us who have worked down in th 80m portion of the expanded phone band have worked many newcomers trying out their Yaecomwood radios on AM for the first time. In fact, a couple days back I heard a 4 Lander using SSB break into a group on 3733 who then helped him make the switch to AM mode. He was trying out an Icom 781 and IIRC, it was his first AM contact ever. He hung in there for quite a while and did say he'd be back for more. Got to say, I'm beginning to feel like it's a one way relationship , you see. I'm not retired yet, and no I don't have a room full of old tube xmitters (but would love to have )Do have a old DX 40 that I'm close to getting on the air, and a three tube 811 amp, that may allow me to get into a short QSO with some of you. It's really sad that in order to be in the group you've got to run a tube xmitter and a amp, at 300 to 800 watts, other wise, your just noise, and something to be tolerated with a short reply, and then move on to another big rig sounding station. Bob, where are you getting your info? Are you on the air at all? If so, you must realize that some of the strongest, best sounding signals out there are guys running Class E solid state rigs, or Flex radios as Pete mentions. There is no doubt that if you're going to hang around up in the AM ghetto area at night, you're going to need to run some decent power and have a decent signal to be heard. But that's been the case as long as I can remember, it's nothing new. The 'new' thing is that we now have additional spectrum to stretch out and enjoy instead of trying to all squeeze into a few popular frequencies. You should be embracing this, not complaining about it. I've been a 'working stiff' too, through most of my amateur career and through all my upgrades. There was never time to practice the code or study for me either, unless *I* made the time. Once it became a priority for me and not just a passing interest, there was plenty of time. Funny how that works. A.M.,,,the EXTRA mode Huh. I'm only an Advanced. Maybe I should feel bad for myself too? Nah, the energy could be better spent working on upgrading. Too many folks seem to want the luxury of amateur radio being on their terms, whenever they happen to turn on the radio it should just be happening in a place where they can enjoy it. Hopefully more are realizing that *they* are amateur radio, in this case the AMers who will make a difference if they're on the air instead of online. Other than some weekly AM net and the rare QSO, I'm amazed at how little local AM activity I hear since moving to 4 Land. Plenty of 1,2, and 3 Landers, with 8s and 5s in there too. It's almost like that Verizon dead zone commercial. Let's do something positive about it, Bob. I'll make you a deal: you upgrade (much easier these days) and I'll get some wires back up in the air, then we can both be part of the solution. I do need to reorganize my priorities from all that moving/domestic stuff back to radio and fun activities. ~ Todd, KA1KAQ/4 __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] [Boatanchors] Here is Where the 813's are Going Now
The CRA has a small warehouse of transmitting/audio tubes, such as the 813, 810, 211, 4-250A, etc. What do you need? Of course, prices are held private, so please call. David Knepper, W3ST/W3CRA Editor of the Collins Journal Collins Radio Association www.collinsra.com Join the CRA - Original Message - From: Carl k...@jeremy.mv.com To: n...@cox.net; Discussion of AM Radio AMRadio@mailman.qth.net; BOATANCHORS boatanch...@mailman.qth.net; boatanch...@listserv.tempe.gov boatanch...@lists.tempe.gov Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Here is Where the 813's are Going Now As well as 829B's in another amp. At least he isnt using NOS USA tubes. Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: David Hollander n...@cox.net To: Discussion of AM Radio AMRadio@mailman.qth.net; BOATANCHORS boatanch...@mailman.qth.net; boatanch...@listserv.tempe.gov boatanch...@lists.tempe.gov Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 11:44 AM Subject: [Boatanchors] Here is Where the 813's are Going Now http://tinyurl.com/a7hkvr -- *** Dave N7RK Boatanchors Home Page: http://members.cox.net/n7rk Phoenix, Arizona *DXCC Honor Roll**WAZ#22 - 75 Meter SSB* ex-XE2/N7RK, N7RK/ZB2, VK2ERK, ZM0AJN, WB6NRK, WN6IWX Boatanchor and Antique Radio Collector ___ ___ __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Effort afoot to reclaim 3600-3700 CW subband
Todd, I want to thanks all of you for your thoughts and advice. Rev Don, Jim, John, Thomas, Pete. Most all kind comments, and well meaning. First, yes Todd I'm on the air , do a lot of listening in the ghetto as it's called. I guess my location here in Jacksonville Fl. Allows for a north and west listing area, and a few A.M. nets that I do check in on every now and then. A quick check of my call on QRZ.com and a picture of the station can be seen, as well as comments regarding my love for A.M. I do have some success at 40 watt level and can run a small solid state amp. That gives me a good 100 watt key down with 120 to 150 voice peaks. I'm using a 160 meter dipole at 50ft with 450 ohm latter and a Johnson match box. My whole comment this morning was directed at the A.M. stations giving up the range of 3880 to 3990 and moving down to a more comfortable and clearer location .(really can't fault them ) just felt abandoned I guess. I just need to en-gauge brain and up grade but at the same time, would hope for more activity in the southeast on 3885 with some of the big guy's moving down 3880 or even 3875, just start working on a bigger hole in the ghetto and not give it up, there will always be generals. Bob Carpenter KB4WEC bcarpenter_...@bellsouth.net -Original Message- From: amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Todd, KA1KAQ Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:05 PM To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Effort afoot to reclaim 3600-3700 CW subband On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Bob Carpenter bcarpenter_...@bellsouth.net wrote: Every body that wants to run A.M. go ahead and move down to the extra band, then don't ask why A.M. is a dying mode !! A lot of working stiff still have to work 40 to 60 hrs a week, and for what ever reason don't have our extra but I really love A.M. AM isn't a dying mode from where I sit, it's one of the few modes that seems to be gaining in activity through new interest. Many of us who have worked down in th 80m portion of the expanded phone band have worked many newcomers trying out their Yaecomwood radios on AM for the first time. In fact, a couple days back I heard a 4 Lander using SSB break into a group on 3733 who then helped him make the switch to AM mode. He was trying out an Icom 781 and IIRC, it was his first AM contact ever. He hung in there for quite a while and did say he'd be back for more. Got to say, I'm beginning to feel like it's a one way relationship , you see. I'm not retired yet, and no I don't have a room full of old tube xmitters (but would love to have )Do have a old DX 40 that I'm close to getting on the air, and a three tube 811 amp, that may allow me to get into a short QSO with some of you. It's really sad that in order to be in the group you've got to run a tube xmitter and a amp, at 300 to 800 watts, other wise, your just noise, and something to be tolerated with a short reply, and then move on to another big rig sounding station. Bob, where are you getting your info? Are you on the air at all? If so, you must realize that some of the strongest, best sounding signals out there are guys running Class E solid state rigs, or Flex radios as Pete mentions. There is no doubt that if you're going to hang around up in the AM ghetto area at night, you're going to need to run some decent power and have a decent signal to be heard. But that's been the case as long as I can remember, it's nothing new. The 'new' thing is that we now have additional spectrum to stretch out and enjoy instead of trying to all squeeze into a few popular frequencies. You should be embracing this, not complaining about it. I've been a 'working stiff' too, through most of my amateur career and through all my upgrades. There was never time to practice the code or study for me either, unless *I* made the time. Once it became a priority for me and not just a passing interest, there was plenty of time. Funny how that works. A.M.,,,the EXTRA mode Huh. I'm only an Advanced. Maybe I should feel bad for myself too? Nah, the energy could be better spent working on upgrading. Too many folks seem to want the luxury of amateur radio being on their terms, whenever they happen to turn on the radio it should just be happening in a place where they can enjoy it. Hopefully more are realizing that *they* are amateur radio, in this case the AMers who will make a difference if they're on the air instead of online. Other than some weekly AM net and the rare QSO, I'm amazed at how little local AM activity I hear since moving to 4 Land. Plenty of 1,2, and 3 Landers, with 8s and 5s in there too. It's almost like that Verizon dead zone commercial. Let's do something positive about it, Bob. I'll make you a deal: you upgrade (much easier these days) and I'll get some wires back up in the air, then we can both be part of the solution. I do need to reorganize my priorities from all that
Re: [AMRadio] 3600-3700
Every body that wants to run A.M. go ahead and move down to the extra band, then don't ask why A.M. is a dying mode !! A lot of working stiff still have to work 40 to 60 hrs a week, and for what ever reason don't have our extra but I really love A.M. Got to say, I'm beginning to feel like it's a one way relationship , you see. I'm not retired yet, and no I don't have a room full of old tube xmitters (but would love to have )Do have a old DX 40 that I'm close to getting on the air, and a three tube 811 amp, that may allow me to get into a short QSO with some of you. It's really sad that in order to be in the group you've got to run a tube xmitter and a amp, at 300 to 800 watts, other wise, your just noise, and something to be tolerated with a short reply, and then move on to another big rig sounding station. This will most likely be my last post, sorry about the bitter mood, just letting my feeling show I guess. Maybe after the bands get better in a few years, I can have a little A.M. fun on 10 20 meters. A.M.,,,the EXTRA mode Bob Carpenter KB4WEC You don't need to worry about everybody moving down to the Extra portion. If some of the AM operators do QSY, it will make operation on 3870-90 a lot more tolerable. I tend to stay away from the Ghetto during prime time early evening hours because it has become too chaotic. Start a QSO, and within 20 minutes the group will have grown to 5 to 8 members or more, one or two of which are guaranteed to have unreadable signals. Add to that, mutual interference from another AM QSO 5 kHz away or possibly one to each side of the frequency, plus all the SSB trying to nudge in between. If the QSO's become more manageable in size, everyone will enjoy AM operation more. We need to maintain solid AM presence in EVERY segment of the band. Another segment that begs for some nighttime AM activity is somewhere between 3800 and 3850. That's within the General privileges, new General-class territory created with the phone band expansion. I often hear some activity there in the afternoon, but it always seems to disappear by sundown. Best to get started in the late afternoon before the rock-bound VFO crowd shows up. There was PLENTY of AM activity in the new Extra and Advanced segments right after the expansion (remember the AM Bandwarming Party?), but as soon as the novelty wore off, most of the AM ops retreated back to the congestion and QRM. I don't think those CW guys have anything to gripe about, since they haven't lost any mode privileges, just licence class privileges. And I doubt that the FCC would reconsider returning to restricting the segment to CW/data or otherwise reversing the expansion, since that would imply that they made an erroneous decision when they initially expanded the band, and bureaucratic government agencies are not very prone to do that - witness the AM power debacle. So if they do start a petition, it might be more appropriate to seek to reduce or eliminate the exclusive Extra Class segments, not reduce phone privileges. Time and the CW ops' complaints about the dearth of activity on 3600-3700, are proof enough that their worries about hoards of SSB'ers moving down and wiping out the low end of the band as soon as the mode restrictions were lifted, were unfounded. It can only be a healthy move for the AM community to show more presence across 3600-3750 and 3800-3850. Some of the frequencies down below where AM activity has been noted in the past include the vicinity of 3720-30, 3705, 3685 and 3675. I have xtals for 3610, 3620, 3645, 3711 and 3720, which I like to exercise occasionally, although I have full VFO capability and my VFO is not rock-bound to a single frequency like the VFO's appear to be on many of the whizz-bang digital SSB appliances. Don k4kyv ___ This message was typed using the DVORAK keyboard layout. http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/ http://gigliwood.com/abcd/ __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] 3600-3700
Dont forget to give us Brits and Europeans a shout around 04.00+ GMT on 3705, during the weekends and sometimes during the week. 73 Max M0GHQ - Original Message - From: D. Chester k4...@charter.net To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 3600-3700 Every body that wants to run A.M. go ahead and move down to the extra band, then don't ask why A.M. is a dying mode !! A lot of working stiff still have to work 40 to 60 hrs a week, and for what ever reason don't have our extra but I really love A.M. Got to say, I'm beginning to feel like it's a one way relationship , you see. I'm not retired yet, and no I don't have a room full of old tube xmitters (but would love to have )Do have a old DX 40 that I'm close to getting on the air, and a three tube 811 amp, that may allow me to get into a short QSO with some of you. It's really sad that in order to be in the group you've got to run a tube xmitter and a amp, at 300 to 800 watts, other wise, your just noise, and something to be tolerated with a short reply, and then move on to another big rig sounding station. This will most likely be my last post, sorry about the bitter mood, just letting my feeling show I guess. Maybe after the bands get better in a few years, I can have a little A.M. fun on 10 20 meters. A.M.,,,the EXTRA mode Bob Carpenter KB4WEC You don't need to worry about everybody moving down to the Extra portion. If some of the AM operators do QSY, it will make operation on 3870-90 a lot more tolerable. I tend to stay away from the Ghetto during prime time early evening hours because it has become too chaotic. Start a QSO, and within 20 minutes the group will have grown to 5 to 8 members or more, one or two of which are guaranteed to have unreadable signals. Add to that, mutual interference from another AM QSO 5 kHz away or possibly one to each side of the frequency, plus all the SSB trying to nudge in between. If the QSO's become more manageable in size, everyone will enjoy AM operation more. We need to maintain solid AM presence in EVERY segment of the band. Another segment that begs for some nighttime AM activity is somewhere between 3800 and 3850. That's within the General privileges, new General-class territory created with the phone band expansion. I often hear some activity there in the afternoon, but it always seems to disappear by sundown. Best to get started in the late afternoon before the rock-bound VFO crowd shows up. There was PLENTY of AM activity in the new Extra and Advanced segments right after the expansion (remember the AM Bandwarming Party?), but as soon as the novelty wore off, most of the AM ops retreated back to the congestion and QRM. I don't think those CW guys have anything to gripe about, since they haven't lost any mode privileges, just licence class privileges. And I doubt that the FCC would reconsider returning to restricting the segment to CW/data or otherwise reversing the expansion, since that would imply that they made an erroneous decision when they initially expanded the band, and bureaucratic government agencies are not very prone to do that - witness the AM power debacle. So if they do start a petition, it might be more appropriate to seek to reduce or eliminate the exclusive Extra Class segments, not reduce phone privileges. Time and the CW ops' complaints about the dearth of activity on 3600-3700, are proof enough that their worries about hoards of SSB'ers moving down and wiping out the low end of the band as soon as the mode restrictions were lifted, were unfounded. It can only be a healthy move for the AM community to show more presence across 3600-3750 and 3800-3850. Some of the frequencies down below where AM activity has been noted in the past include the vicinity of 3720-30, 3705, 3685 and 3675. I have xtals for 3610, 3620, 3645, 3711 and 3720, which I like to exercise occasionally, although I have full VFO capability and my VFO is not rock-bound to a single frequency like the VFO's appear to be on many of the whizz-bang digital SSB appliances. Don k4kyv ___ This message was typed using the DVORAK keyboard layout. http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/ http://gigliwood.com/abcd/ __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main
[AMRadio] Taylor Tube Cross Reference
I have a number of Taylor tubes that I would like to test. Looks like they used their own numbering system with their TZ prefixes. This used to drive us crazy when I worked in the semiconductor industry!!! Does a cross reference exist from Taylor tubes to industry standard numbers and does anybody have one? Or a chart with settings for a TV-7 or Hickok tester? Tnx and 73, Dave N7RK -- *** Dave N7RK Boatanchors Home Page: http://members.cox.net/n7rk Phoenix, Arizona *DXCC Honor Roll**WAZ#22 - 75 Meter SSB* ex-XE2/N7RK, N7RK/ZB2, VK2ERK, ZM0AJN, WB6NRK, WN6IWX Boatanchor and Antique Radio Collector __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Taylor Tube Cross Reference
http://w5jgv.com/downloads/Taylor-1939.PDF That is the 1939 Taylor book. I also have it on my drive but it is a 20+ meg file. I can upload it to my site if Ralph's server has any issues. Hope this helps... Mike WE0H Dave wrote: I have a number of Taylor tubes that I would like to test. Looks like they used their own numbering system with their TZ prefixes. This used to drive us crazy when I worked in the semiconductor industry!!! Does a cross reference exist from Taylor tubes to industry standard numbers and does anybody have one? Or a chart with settings for a TV-7 or Hickok tester? Tnx and 73, Dave N7RK __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
[AMRadio] Transatlantic AM (was 3600-3700)
Dont forget to give us Brits and Europeans a shout around 04.00+ GMT on 3705, during the weekends and sometimes during the week. 73 Max M0GHQ I hear you blokes on the band from time to time, but signals usually are right at the noise level, just a bit too weak for me, 1200 miles into the hinterlands where that extra hop over land attenuates signals into the noise floor. The east coast AM'ers have a much better pipeline into Europe. I did have a nice QSO with Jean from France a couple of weeks ago. Henke called in, but his signal was unreadable in the noise. I regularly hear British and European slopbuckets in the so-called DX window at 3780-3900, and many of their signals are comparable to those of N. American stations if not stronger, kicking the S-meter above S-9, but the European stations I hear in QSO on 3600-3700 are usually very weak. I don't know what kind of power and antennas the DX'ers use to put such strapping signals this way, but if a few AM'ers across the pond could generate comparable signals, transatlantic AM QSO's would be routine. For years I have attempted to monitor the French-speaking AM group on 3550, but they are usually just barely too weak to catch the callsigns, even though some of the conversations are comprehensible at times. Don k4kyv ___ This message was typed using the DVORAK keyboard layout. http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/ http://gigliwood.com/abcd/ __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] [CW] Fw: 3600-3700 frequencies
Thomas F. Giella KN4LF wrote: I did recently pass the Extra exam and am awaiting my new 2 x 1 call of WU5D. Tom, is that a vanity call or did the FCC assign it? A ham I know well in NH has the callsign WU2D. Mike is a great guy, operates a lot of AM as well as CW, and is a fellow active member of the Antique Wireless Association. 73, -Larry/NE1S __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] WABOOF - Good News on HAM RADIO
I remember what sparked my interest, an old radio shack dx100 I think it was, a little, crappy receiver that LOOKED nice, it was really a transistor radio with some short wave bands and a BFO. But I heard some interesting AM qso's on it, got my general so I could join in. Way back, CB was nice, no foul mouth or CB lingo, just people talking, and I was into that before the ham stuff. I would not bother with CB these days. Realistically, I don't think ham radio has much future, not when you can call someone on a cell phone, text them, surf the web, do VoIP, etc, its kind of silly to have a basement full of equipment so you can talk with the other 20 old guys about their basement full of equipment. I don't see much to attract young people to the hobby. Most hams would not think of building any radio stuff as far as I can tell. Kids might be interested in the flex radio stuff, with its computers and displays and so on Brett N2DTS - Original Message - From: D. Chester k4...@charter.net To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] WABOOF - Good News on HAM RADIO WABOOF WHAT A BUNCH OF OLD FARTS!! ( I can say that because I am old too! ) Here a guy is trying to convey a little good news and all you guys can do is make disparaging remarks!! ... A new ham is a new ham, it doesn't matter what the initial motivation was, if they have a license it's our job as Elmer's to mold them into amateur radio operators! Don't sit around and whine!!! Get up and do something to help them appreciate and enjoy the hobby. K3PID Ron H To me, what really counts is hams who gain HF privileges, and who might potentially become AM'ers. I doubt that would be of interest to many of the shack-on-a-belt wannabe cops the the least bit. But maybe a few will become curious enough to listen to what's on HF. There certainly isn't anything much on shortwave to attract SWL's any more. Once upon a time most new hams who didn't happen to have a personal mentor, first got exposed to radio by listening to foreign broadcasts on AM radios that also included a couple of shortwave bands, and ran across hams conversing on AM phone. When most hams converted to SSB, we lost that avenue, and CB became the new gateway. Now that interest in CB has about fizzled, what do we have left? Don k4kyv __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] WABOOF - Good News on HAM RADIO
Funny today I received a message from a friend that listed 24 thing about to become extinct in America. I don't know who published the list but it wasn't anyone involved in ham radio. Ham Radio was about # 16 on the list. It was there along with Yellow Pages, film cameras, classified ads, movie rental places and the #1 selection was family farms. 16. Ham Radio Amateur radio operators enjoy personal (and often worldwide) wireless communications with each other and are able to support their communities with emergency and disaster communications if necessary, while increasing their personal knowledge of electronics and radio theory. However, proliferation of the Internet and its popularity among youth has caused the decline of amateur radio. In the past five years alone, the number of people holding active ham radio licenses has dropped by 50,000, even though Morse Code is no longer a requirement. Jim/W5JO - Original Message - Realistically, I don't think ham radio has much future, not when you can call someone on a cell phone, text them, surf the web, do VoIP, etc, its kind of silly to have a basement full of equipment so you can talk with the other 20 old guys about their basement full of equipment. I don't see much to attract young people to the hobby. Brett N2DTS - Original Message - From: D. Chester k4...@charter.net To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] WABOOF - Good News on HAM RADIO WABOOF WHAT A BUNCH OF OLD FARTS!! ( I can say that because I am old too! ) Here a guy is trying to convey a little good news and all you guys can do is make disparaging remarks!! ... A new ham is a new ham, it doesn't matter what the initial motivation was, if they have a license it's our job as Elmer's to mold them into amateur radio operators! Don't sit around and whine!!! Get up and do something to help them appreciate and enjoy the hobby. K3PID Ron H To me, what really counts is hams who gain HF privileges, and who might potentially become AM'ers. I doubt that would be of interest to many of the shack-on-a-belt wannabe cops the the least bit. But maybe a few will become curious enough to listen to what's on HF. There certainly isn't anything much on shortwave to attract SWL's any more. Once upon a time most new hams who didn't happen to have a personal mentor, first got exposed to radio by listening to foreign broadcasts on AM radios that also included a couple of shortwave bands, and ran across hams conversing on AM phone. When most hams converted to SSB, we lost that avenue, and CB became the new gateway. Now that interest in CB has about fizzled, what do we have left? Don k4kyv __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Effort afoot to reclaim 3600-3700 CW subband
I don't bother getting on AM on 80 meters hardly at all, and would never do so at night. Its often just the 'usual suspects' around here, its not often interesting to me, and I don't have a fantastic antenna , I do have lots of power though, which equals qrm to people around my housenot popular during prime time... Low power AM on 80 at prime time in the AM window is pointless in my book. Its no fun for anyone to try and copy a signal in the fringe, or that 1/2 the group cant hear at all. I don't feel like tuning all over the band to find some AM, it was nice when it was in a window, you knew where to look. 40 meters on weekends used to be, and sometimes still is nice and active. I personally like to talk with new people, find out what they are doing/using. I have not found much interesting on AM lately, when I have time to get on, and think I will try to get back into CW and do that instead. I sure am rusty at it! Brett N2DTS - Original Message - From: Bob Carpenter bcarpenter_...@bellsouth.net To: 'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service' amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Effort afoot to reclaim 3600-3700 CW subband Every body that wants to run A.M. go ahead and move down to the extra band, then don't ask why A.M. is a dying mode !! A lot of working stiff still have to work 40 to 60 hrs a week, and for what ever reason don't have our extra but I really love A.M. Got to say, I'm beginning to feel like it's a one way relationship , you see. I'm not retired yet, and no I don't have a room full of old tube xmitters (but would love to have )Do have a old DX 40 that I'm close to getting on the air, and a three tube 811 amp, that may allow me to get into a short QSO with some of you. It's really sad that in order to be in the group you've got to run a tube xmitter and a amp, at 300 to 800 watts, other wise, your just noise, and something to be tolerated with a short reply, and then move on to another big rig sounding station. This will most likely be my last post, sorry about the bitter mood, just letting my feeling show I guess. Maybe after the bands get better in a few years, I can have a little A.M. fun on 10 20 meters. A.M.,,,the EXTRA mode Bob Carpenter KB4WEC bcarpenter_...@bellsouth.net -Original Message- From: amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:amradio-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of QED Consultants Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 5:35 PM To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Effort afoot to reclaim 3600-3700 CW subband Hi Don: what does he even mean by these percentages? if he would treat cw at abt 500 cycles then there is almost no cw use. I have been running at or below 3.7 for weeks, last night I could not find a spot from 3675 to 3710 called cq on 3725and a guy on ssb came back and commented how good the audio sounded, he said it sounded as good as AM. I told him to put the rx on AM and have a good laugh. I think I will start dropping down to the 3650 to 3675 range. Bernie - Original Message - From: D. Chester k4...@charter.net To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 4:22 PM Subject: [AMRadio] Effort afoot to reclaim 3600-3700 CW subband The following message is being forwarded around on the internet via e-mail and on some of the mailing lists. They do have a point. There is very little phone activity in this portion of the band, now that the novelty of the expanded phone band has worn off. Why not re-warm the band with AM? I'll be exercising my 3620 kHz xtal a little more often. (QUOTE): Since the changes were made taking away exclusive use of the 3600-3700 portion of the 80 meter band for CW, I have done extensive monitoring in it. There is very little use of this portion of the band now. I have heard some ssb activity in the upper 25 khz (3675-3700). Percentage of use during a one month period is less than 10%. From 3650-3675, percentage is less than 7%. From 3600-3650, percentage is less than 4%. That is an awful waste of band space. There has been ample time for someone to make use of these frequencies. Since they are not being used enough, I think it should be given back to CW/RTTY/Digital. During contest weekends, the present allocation of frequencies for CW,etc. makes it almost unusable for net operation and QSO's. Who else should I contact with these recommendations and statistics? I will be glad to do so. Me and thousands of other CW ops would like to see this portion given back to us. Thanks for your help and 73, Rodney Baker, W5DY STX Section Traffic Manager Tex CW Asst Net Manager TCC Member ORS (END QUOTE) Click or copy/paste the following link to read some of the replies to this message: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/cw/2009-January/subject.html Don k4kyv
Re: [AMRadio] WABOOF - Good News on HAM RADIO
Film camera's! I have a REAL nice high end (Japanese) camera my dad had, he spent a lot of money on it and had many lenses, special flash, etc. Since my wife had almost the same model, I looked on ebay to see what it was worth. Zero! Lots on ebay for $30.00 and they were not selling. I gave it to my son to play with. Brett N2DTS - Original Message - From: Jim Wilhite w...@brightok.net To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] WABOOF - Good News on HAM RADIO Funny today I received a message from a friend that listed 24 thing about to become extinct in America. I don't know who published the list but it wasn't anyone involved in ham radio. Ham Radio was about # 16 on the list. It was there along with Yellow Pages, film cameras, classified ads, movie rental places and the #1 selection was family farms. 16. Ham Radio Amateur radio operators enjoy personal (and often worldwide) wireless communications with each other and are able to support their communities with emergency and disaster communications if necessary, while increasing their personal knowledge of electronics and radio theory. However, proliferation of the Internet and its popularity among youth has caused the decline of amateur radio. In the past five years alone, the number of people holding active ham radio licenses has dropped by 50,000, even though Morse Code is no longer a requirement. Jim/W5JO - Original Message - Realistically, I don't think ham radio has much future, not when you can call someone on a cell phone, text them, surf the web, do VoIP, etc, its kind of silly to have a basement full of equipment so you can talk with the other 20 old guys about their basement full of equipment. I don't see much to attract young people to the hobby. Brett N2DTS - Original Message - From: D. Chester k4...@charter.net To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] WABOOF - Good News on HAM RADIO WABOOF WHAT A BUNCH OF OLD FARTS!! ( I can say that because I am old too! ) Here a guy is trying to convey a little good news and all you guys can do is make disparaging remarks!! ... A new ham is a new ham, it doesn't matter what the initial motivation was, if they have a license it's our job as Elmer's to mold them into amateur radio operators! Don't sit around and whine!!! Get up and do something to help them appreciate and enjoy the hobby. K3PID Ron H To me, what really counts is hams who gain HF privileges, and who might potentially become AM'ers. I doubt that would be of interest to many of the shack-on-a-belt wannabe cops the the least bit. But maybe a few will become curious enough to listen to what's on HF. There certainly isn't anything much on shortwave to attract SWL's any more. Once upon a time most new hams who didn't happen to have a personal mentor, first got exposed to radio by listening to foreign broadcasts on AM radios that also included a couple of shortwave bands, and ran across hams conversing on AM phone. When most hams converted to SSB, we lost that avenue, and CB became the new gateway. Now that interest in CB has about fizzled, what do we have left? Don k4kyv __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website:
Re: [AMRadio] WABOOF - Good News on HAM RADIO
The dumbing of America is just about complete. I've been in the photo processing business since 1962 and I know a bit about it. Film is still better than digital, but most people don't know better from a hole in the ground. - Original Message - From: Brett Gazdzinski brett.gazdzin...@verizon.net To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] WABOOF - Good News on HAM RADIO Film camera's! I have a REAL nice high end (Japanese) camera my dad had, he spent a lot of money on it and had many lenses, special flash, etc. Since my wife had almost the same model, I looked on ebay to see what it was worth. Zero! Lots on ebay for $30.00 and they were not selling. I gave it to my son to play with. Brett N2DTS - Original Message - From: Jim Wilhite w...@brightok.net To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] WABOOF - Good News on HAM RADIO Funny today I received a message from a friend that listed 24 thing about to become extinct in America. I don't know who published the list but it wasn't anyone involved in ham radio. Ham Radio was about # 16 on the list. It was there along with Yellow Pages, film cameras, classified ads, movie rental places and the #1 selection was family farms. 16. Ham Radio Amateur radio operators enjoy personal (and often worldwide) wireless communications with each other and are able to support their communities with emergency and disaster communications if necessary, while increasing their personal knowledge of electronics and radio theory. However, proliferation of the Internet and its popularity among youth has caused the decline of amateur radio. In the past five years alone, the number of people holding active ham radio licenses has dropped by 50,000, even though Morse Code is no longer a requirement. Jim/W5JO - Original Message - Realistically, I don't think ham radio has much future, not when you can call someone on a cell phone, text them, surf the web, do VoIP, etc, its kind of silly to have a basement full of equipment so you can talk with the other 20 old guys about their basement full of equipment. I don't see much to attract young people to the hobby. Brett N2DTS - Original Message - From: D. Chester k4...@charter.net To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] WABOOF - Good News on HAM RADIO WABOOF WHAT A BUNCH OF OLD FARTS!! ( I can say that because I am old too! ) Here a guy is trying to convey a little good news and all you guys can do is make disparaging remarks!! ... A new ham is a new ham, it doesn't matter what the initial motivation was, if they have a license it's our job as Elmer's to mold them into amateur radio operators! Don't sit around and whine!!! Get up and do something to help them appreciate and enjoy the hobby. K3PID Ron H To me, what really counts is hams who gain HF privileges, and who might potentially become AM'ers. I doubt that would be of interest to many of the shack-on-a-belt wannabe cops the the least bit. But maybe a few will become curious enough to listen to what's on HF. There certainly isn't anything much on shortwave to attract SWL's any more. Once upon a time most new hams who didn't happen to have a personal mentor, first got exposed to radio by listening to foreign broadcasts on AM radios that also included a couple of shortwave bands, and ran across hams conversing on AM phone. When most hams converted to SSB, we lost that avenue, and CB became the new gateway. Now that interest in CB has about fizzled, what do we have left? Don k4kyv __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net
