[AMRadio] Crystals Rock ! ( sorry for the pun )

2010-03-05 Thread Bry Carling
Interesting Mark...

I have a number of quartz crystal blanks available for the large 
FT171B crystals used in the BC610. Some I have marked - some 
random. They are almost all in the 3500 - 4000 kHz range if anyone 
wants to try some pencilling,  penning or grinding with these.

Drop me an e-mail of fthe list and I can supply information.

73 - Bry, AF4K

From:   Mark Foltarz folt...@rocketmail.com

 Did my first crystal grind for the BC 610 last night.  
 Got darn close.
 Started with a 3570 and ground up to 3655.3 .
 Overshot by 300 hz.
 Might try to pencil it down.
 
 de KA4JVY
 Mark


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Re: [AMRadio] Crystals Rock ! ( sorry for the pun )

2010-03-05 Thread Bry Carling
Bruce  Co... 

If you overshoot you can usually bring them back down 5 to 10 kHz 
with a felt tip marker. If you go too far with the ink,  than a solvent 
will take some off.

73 - Bry, AF4K

From:   w7aac w7...@net70.net

 Mark Foltarz wrote:
  220 grit wet sand paper.
 
  worked like a champ.
 
  Mark
 
 
 

 We used to use Ajax cleanser on a glass plate with water. Took
 longer to 
 over shoot.
 
 Bruce
 
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Re: [AMRadio] AM IARU Region 2 Bandplan

2010-03-05 Thread Bry Carling
We should try to get them to include language stating that AM may 
be used ANYWHERE that other amplitude modulated telephony modes
such as SB are allowed, AND they should state that there are areas 
in which regular AM operation is noted, such as from 3870 to 3890 kHz.
(Also now 3650 to 3750 kHz is being used more and more too)

We do NOT want AM to become ghetto-ized. This could eventually lead 
to specific limitations.

73 - Bry, AF4K

From:   screwdriver he...@swbell.net

 The inadvertent omission of the AM center of activity frequency
 (calling
 frequency) -- 3.885 MHz on 80 meters -- has already been noted, and
 this
 will be one of the recommended revisions.


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Re: [AMRadio] AM IARU Region 2 Bandplan

2010-03-05 Thread Bernie Doran
As always, everyone has an opinion. Mine is that this is not a calling 
frequency, as it is certainly not utilized that way. it is a common area for 
AM to  hang out  I feel that it should not even be mentioned as the is no 
 SSB or CW  calling frequency, this only gives rogue ssb ops a chance to 
squawk that we are off freq.  That said I almost never operate in that 
region as there is simply too much QRM, much better at the low end of the 
band, I find a lot of contacts from 3685 to 3725.   Bernie
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Subject: [AMRadio] AM IARU Region 2 Bandplan



ARRL Seeks Input for New IARU Region 2 Band Plan
The International Amateur Radio Region 2 (IARU R2) conference -- held later 
this year in El Salvador -- brings together delegations from the national 
Amateur Radio Societies in the Western Hemisphere. One of the topics on the 
agenda will be the Region 2 HF band plan. This band plan is harmonized 
with -- spectrum management-speak for very similar to -- the IARU Region 
1 and Region 3 band plans.
According to ARRL President Kay Craigie, N3KN, many hams in the USA probably 
did not know there was such as thing as a Region 2 band plan until recently. 
Now, however, many more American hams have heard of it, but may not know 
how -- if at all -- this band plan affects them. Here are important facts 
for American hams to keep in mind:

IARU band plans are voluntary guidelines. They do not have the force of FCC 
regulations.
It would be inappropriate to incorporate Region 2 band plans into the FCC 
rules, and the ARRL has no plan to petition the FCC to do so.
Most other countries do not have the detailed sub-band regulations that are 
in Part 97 of the FCC Rules; for amateurs in those countries, IARU band 
plans offer the only guidance on frequency use.
The recognition of a calling frequency or band segment for a particular 
purpose or mode in the IARU band plan does not convey any special rights or 
exclusivity of use.
A new, more transparent procedure will be followed this year for considering 
possible changes to the Region 2 band plan. The ARRL is cooperating with 
this procedure by inviting input to be sent to the ARRL Board of Directors' 
Band Planning Committee. The committee will review the existing Region 2 
band plan, consider input from the amateur community and make 
recommendations to the ARRL Board for submission to IARU Region 2.
The inadvertent omission of the AM center of activity frequency (calling 
frequency) -- 3.885 MHz on 80 meters -- has already been noted, and this 
will be one of the recommended revisions.
The deadline line set by Region 2 for gathering input and formulating 
recommendations is rather short. Amateurs who would like to submit input 
should take the following steps:

First, study the existing IARU Region 2 band plan posted on the Region 2 Web 
site. The Region 1 and Region 3 band plans are also posted there, so be sure 
you are looking at the band plan for Region 2.
Next, formulate a clear statement of any change you propose. Include a brief 
explanation of why you think the change would be beneficial. Please include 
your name and call sign in your input.
Finally, send your input via e-mail no later than April 5, 2010. Messages 
will be automatically acknowledged
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Re: [AMRadio] AM IARU Region 2 Bandplan

2010-03-05 Thread Todd, KA1KAQ
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Bry Carling bcarl...@cfl.rr.com wrote:
 We should try to get them to include language stating that AM may
 be used ANYWHERE that other amplitude modulated telephony modes
 such as SB are allowed,

This is easily covered by using the term 'phone' rather than
separating AM and trying to make it some 'specialty' that somehow
deserves special treatment or special frequencies. The more we try to
stand out, the easier we make it for others to make AM some kind of
exception.

After all, SSB is really just reduced AM, filtering the carrier and
one sideband. Phone is fone is phone.

~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4
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Re: [AMRadio] AM IARU Region 2 Bandplan

2010-03-05 Thread Rob Atkinson
Actually AM is true (radiotele)phone; SSB is wildly changing CW in
frequency and amplitude beating against an oscillator in the receiver.
 : )

rob
k5uj

On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Todd, KA1KAQ ka1...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Bry Carling bcarl...@cfl.rr.com wrote:
 We should try to get them to include language stating that AM may
 be used ANYWHERE that other amplitude modulated telephony modes
 such as SB are allowed,

 This is easily covered by using the term 'phone' rather than
 separating AM and trying to make it some 'specialty' that somehow
 deserves special treatment or special frequencies. The more we try to
 stand out, the easier we make it for others to make AM some kind of
 exception.

 After all, SSB is really just reduced AM, filtering the carrier and
 one sideband. Phone is fone is phone.

 ~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4
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[AMRadio] Input to IARU Region 2 Bandplan

2010-03-05 Thread JAMES HANLON
In reading over the IARU Region 2 MF/HF Band Plan, Effective January 1, 2008, I 
notice that the only frequencies between 1800 kHz and 297000 kHz where DSB AM 
Phone is allowed are from 3600 to 3625 kHz, 3875 to 3900 kHz, 7100 to 7300 kHz, 
14285 to 14300 kHz, and 29000 to 29300 kHz.  My position is that DSB AM should 
be recognized as a Preferred mode on all frequencies where SSB phone is also 
allowed.  

James T. Hanlon, W8KGI
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Re: [AMRadio] Input to IARU Region 2 Bandplan

2010-03-05 Thread manualman
One needs to understand that the IARU Region 2 band plan encompasses
quite a few countries, many of which do not have an equivalent U. S. FCC.
Members of Region 2:
http://www.iaru-r2.org/directory/

Pete, wa2cwa
 
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:04:20 -0700 JAMES HANLON knjhan...@msn.com
writes:
 In reading over the IARU Region 2 MF/HF Band Plan, Effective January 
 1, 2008, I notice that the only frequencies between 1800 kHz and 
 297000 kHz where DSB AM Phone is allowed are from 3600 to 3625 kHz, 
 3875 to 3900 kHz, 7100 to 7300 kHz, 14285 to 14300 kHz, and 29000 to 
 29300 kHz.  My position is that DSB AM should be recognized as a 
 Preferred mode on all frequencies where SSB phone is also allowed. 
  
 
 James T. Hanlon, W8KGI
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Re: [AMRadio] AM IARU Region 2 Bandplan

2010-03-05 Thread D. Chester
I haven't attempted to formulate a response yet, but two things immediately 
come to mind.

One, the bandwidth issue.  The Region 1 plan specifically accommodates AM on 
any phone frequency despite nominal maximum bandwidths posted in the chart. 
This is conspicuously absent from the current Region 2 plan.

Two, 40m. Although this would take FCC action to correct in the USA, 
phone/cw segregation should be more closely aligned with that of the other 
regions. Specifically, in light of the removal of (most) broadcast stations 
from 7100-7200, the N. American band plan should accommodate phone down AT 
LEAST to 7100 kHz. (Most other Region 2 countries are already operating 
phone well below 7100 anyway).

This would apply immediately to Canada, Mexico and other countries in the 
Americas, since nearly every country in the world, except for the U.S., long 
ago phased out government-mandated subbands.

It is ridiculous that 25% of the newly-vacated frequencies are off limits to 
US phone operators, yet at best there are hardly ever more than a half dozen 
or so CW/RTTY/data QSO's on 7100-7125 at any given moment, while 7060-7100 
remains under-used by U.S. non-phone ops as well. SSB ops are fond of 
complaining about AM activity in the vicinity of 7160 because of the 
limited band space to operate phone in the newly vacated segment. We need 
to be thinking of a petition to the FCC to further expand the 40m phone 
band.

Don k4kyv
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Re: [AMRadio] AM IARU Region 2 Bandplan

2010-03-05 Thread manualman
This is irrelevant to the current proposed action on the table. If you
want to write a proposal to the FCC, have at it. It doesn't take a broad
consensus of amateurs to push a proposal before the eyes of the FCC.

Pete, wa2cwa


On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:36:07 -0600 D. Chester k4...@charter.net
writes:
 Two, 40m. Although this would take FCC action to correct in the USA, 
 
 phone/cw segregation should be more closely aligned with that of the 
 other 
 regions. Specifically, in light of the removal of (most) broadcast 
 stations 
 from 7100-7200, the N. American band plan should accommodate phone 
 down AT 
 LEAST to 7100 kHz. (Most other Region 2 countries are already 
 operating 
 phone well below 7100 anyway).
 
 This would apply immediately to Canada, Mexico and other countries 
 in the 
 Americas, since nearly every country in the world, except for the 
 U.S., long 
 ago phased out government-mandated subbands.
 
 It is ridiculous that 25% of the newly-vacated frequencies are off 
 limits to 
 US phone operators, yet at best there are hardly ever more than a 
 half dozen 
 or so CW/RTTY/data QSO's on 7100-7125 at any given moment, while 
 7060-7100 
 remains under-used by U.S. non-phone ops as well. SSB ops are fond 
 of 
 complaining about AM activity in the vicinity of 7160 because of the 
 
 limited band space to operate phone in the newly vacated segment. 
 We need 
 to be thinking of a petition to the FCC to further expand the 40m 
 phone 
 band.
 
 Don k4kyv
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