RE: [AMRadio] k1man fined
This thread is painful at best. In the late 50s the then sales manager for Walter Ashe Radio in St. Louis, MO ran A2 code practice on 10 meters. From letter recognition to maybe 10 WPM. This was done on a regular schedule and was one way broadcasting. It helped a lot of young hams including me get their first ticket. The ARRL information broadcasts including CW code practice have always been for the benefit of hams. There has never been a commercial or political component involved in any of their broadcasts that I know of. It is possible with the changing times these broadcasts are not as important as they once were with email bulletins and such. However still to this day not everyone has a computer and some still get information from these broadcasts. Just because it does not work for you does not mean it does not work for others. It amazes me at how much serious talent on this page is so very narrow minded and self centered. 73 and yes I will be going now. K0AZ Mike Sanders 18169 Highway 174 MT Vernon, Missouri 65712-9171 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Phil Galasso Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 9:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Discussion of AM Radio Subject: Re: [AMRadio] k1man fined - Original Message - Subject: Re: [AMRadio] k1man fined Also I would think ARRL in Newington should be VERY careful before they fire up their W1AW Broadcasts now. This precedent could easily be applied to them, if someone wanted to entrap them. The difference between the W1AW broadcasts and the K1MAN broadcasts is that W1AW does not openly promote any merchandise sold by the League. For that reason, W1AW was not the subject of any FCC enforcement action. W1AW is not doing anything illegal under the current rules. Several years ago, a Petition for Rulemaking was filed with the FCC. This petition would have eliminated ALL broadcasting activity on the congested HF phone bands. The FCC never put it up for public comment. Broadcasting, whether by K1MAN, W1AW, or anyone else, does not belong on the amateur bands. If someone wants to play broadcaster, let him or her buy time on the numerous commercial shortwave stations that operate in this country. The rates on most of them are quite reasonable and those stations run a minimum of 50 kW transmitter power (not including antenna gain). Phil G. K2PG __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 3/31/06 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 3/31/06
RE: [AMRadio] 51J3 or 75A3?
If you want AM reception you want an HRO 50-1. Just my opinion of course. Unmodified excepting normal component replacements and upgrades. I have two HRO 50T1s. Now you can bench a lot of receivers that are 50 plus years old and hear different things no doubt. But these receivers in good condition and alignment are very tough to beat for that AM sound. My 50T1s have one purpose and one purpose only. Listening to AM. On higher bands I agree with the previous poster on the NC183D. I just sold my beautiful 183D to a friend. He is a lucky guy. The problem with these receivers is that it is hard to get the audio gain pot past 1 on the knob dial without causing some pain in a normal size room. The bigger the room the better. CRANK IT UP! Use the matching speaker too. Any big speaker will do but the matching speakers work very well and look cool too. I have a Halli R-46B hooked to my TenTec OMNI 6. Even light weight radios sound better with a good sized speaker. So to do a real AM receiver like the SX28s, HROs etc. justice don't strangle them with a so so speaker. I have actually seen guys do that. Don't know why. It should be obvious. Right? K0AZ Mike Sanders 18169 Highway 174 MT Vernon, Missouri 65712-9171 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I am shopping for a receiver to use on AM. I think I want either a 75A3 or a 51J3. Which one is best for AM use as far as making pleasing sounds come out of the speaker? I used to have a 51J4 and a 75A4, and they worked fine (especially the 'J4), but I have heard that the 'J3 may have the best sounding audio section for AM. True? Thanks, Theo K4MO __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/273 - Release Date: 3/2/06 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/273 - Release Date: 3/2/06 __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.2/274 - Release Date: 3/3/06 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.2/274 - Release Date: 3/3/06
RE: [AMRadio] hecklers
Actually CW is used up to about 144.250 regularly on Aurora openings and other weak signal openings. The 144.000 to 144.100 has been pretty much set aside for EME and most ops honor that convention. The K1JT suite of digital modes FSK441A and so on are being run from 144.140 plus or minus with 140 as the calling frequency. There is not much of a problem on 2 meters that I know of regarding mode to mode feuds. At least in my part of the country. Of course on the more populated coasts it may be a problem but I have not heard anything to that effect. K0AZ Mike Sanders 18169 Highway 174 MT Vernon, Missouri 65712-9171 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter Markavage Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 11:53 AM To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [AMRadio] hecklers 144.0 to 144.1 MHz is generally used for EME(CW), general CW, and weak-signal(DX) CW. Pete, wa2cwa On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 02:25:37 + Donald Chester [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Mike Sanders K0AZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] The low end of 6 meters is used EXTENSIVELY on CW for weak signal intercontinental DX. I don't find this so much a problem. I believe there is a similar CW subband on 2 m. as well. That represents only 1/40 of the 6m band. It would be the equivalent of a 12.5 kHz kHz CW band on 80m. The real problem is with the outdated subband restrictions we have on HF. For example, 50% of the 3.5-4.0 mHz band is restricted to accomodate communications that could easily fit into less than 20% of the band, even during CW contests. Don k4kyv __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/243 - Release Date: 1/27/06 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/243 - Release Date: 1/27/06
RE: [AMRadio] hecklers
Thanks Pete, I also can answer Yes and Yes. Plus I suspect that the digital modes would end up in the CW sub band if such an animal continues to exist. That would be OK as long as it is for the most part shared as on 20 meters. As CW winds down the needed protected spectrum will be less and less of course. As the new modes continue to come and improve there will obviously be more demand on spectrum for them as you suggest 5 or 10 years on. I have known for years that CW was gone as a license requirement but for those who do not use CW to make decisions for us who do is a bit much. AM is a tough choice to make in this same environment. We are going to get bashed with the intent of some to get rid of it totally. What a shame that we have to stop something so someone else can do something else. And next week their ham ticket may be gathering dust while they take up knitting or whatever. I just don't understand why it cannot be understood that a transition over time to manage the spectrum in a logical fashion to accommodate all interests (modes) is the right thing to do. Why does it have to be all or nothing right this minute? Does anyone have an answer to that? K0AZ Mike Sanders 18169 Highway 174 MT Vernon, Missouri 65712-9171 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter Markavage Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 12:57 PM To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [AMRadio] hecklers Yes; Yes; currently in the CW subbands. Where should I (we) transmit digital voice or digital multimedia when it becomes more of a part of the amateur radio's arsenal of modes to use. I'm not talking about today or tomorrow but 5 to 10 years down the road which is what the ARRL proposal is targeting. Of course with the CTT proposal, it's jungle law, any mode any where, subject only to your class of license. Pete, wa2cwa On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:00:52 -0600 Mike Sanders K0AZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you work CW? Do you work HF digital Modes? What do you think? K0AZ Mike Sanders 18169 Highway 174 MT Vernon, Missouri 65712-9171 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter Markavage Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 11:50 AM To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [AMRadio] hecklers Where do you want to put all the current and future digital (voice and data) type modes on 75/80 meters; in the CW subband or the phone subband?? Pete, wa2cwa On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 20:31:46 -0600 Mike Sanders K0AZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree. The 75 meter band needs to be opened up to voice lower in frequency. The current allocation for CW only makes no sense. Even running a CW subband from 3500 to 3600 would be a help but I suspect it could be smaller than that and still be no problem for CW ops. Just because I intend to use CW forever I am not in favor of protecting a larger than needed subband. I am in favor of subbands though. 73 K0AZ Mike Sanders 18169 Highway 174 MT Vernon, Missouri 65712-9171 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Chester Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 8:26 PM To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [AMRadio] hecklers From: Mike Sanders K0AZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] The low end of 6 meters is used EXTENSIVELY on CW for weak signal intercontinental DX. I don't find this so much a problem. I believe there is a similar CW subband on 2 m. as well. That represents only 1/40 of the 6m band. It would be the equivalent of a 12.5 kHz kHz CW band on 80m. The real problem is with the outdated subband restrictions we have on HF. For example, 50% of the 3.5-4.0 mHz band is restricted to accomodate communications that could easily fit into less than 20% of the band, even during CW contests. Don k4kyv __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/243 - Release Date: 1/27/06 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/243 - Release Date: 1/27/06
RE: [AMRadio] hecklers
The low end of 6 meters is used EXTENSIVELY on CW for weak signal intercontinental DX. Those who do not use CW just miss out. CW is legal on all 4 Mcs. of 6 meters yet when used above 50.100 or better yet 50.125 is usually met with an ill informed jammer who thinks it is illegal to use in the phone portion of the band. 73 de K0AZ 6 Meter DXCC #436 and 6 Meter WAZ #37 not all but mostly CW. K0AZ Mike Sanders 18169 Highway 174 MT Vernon, Missouri 65712-9171 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter Markavage Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 1:50 PM To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [AMRadio] hecklers I guess a lot depends on what you do on 6 and 2 meters. Many of the Technicians, Generals, Advanced, and Extra Class amateurs use the dedicated CW sub bands to work weak-signal DX during times of tropo, aurora, Sporadic E, and F2 type conditions and also for those who experiment with moonbounce. With today's arsenal of digital code readers and computer generated code sending, one does not have to pass a code test to send and receive code. PSK-31 and other digital coded formats are also becoming very popular in the VHF bands for weak-signal work. Pete, wa2cwa On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:53:39 -0500 Phil Galasso [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Original Message - And, BTW, why do we have to have subbands on the low ends of 6 and 2 meters that are restricted to CW only, especially since most of our VHF operators are Technicians and most of the newer ones did not have to take a code test? Isn't that a bit asinine? Phil Galasso K2PG __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/243 - Release Date: 1/27/06 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/243 - Release Date: 1/27/06
RE: [AMRadio] hecklers
I agree. The 75 meter band needs to be opened up to voice lower in frequency. The current allocation for CW only makes no sense. Even running a CW subband from 3500 to 3600 would be a help but I suspect it could be smaller than that and still be no problem for CW ops. Just because I intend to use CW forever I am not in favor of protecting a larger than needed subband. I am in favor of subbands though. 73 K0AZ Mike Sanders 18169 Highway 174 MT Vernon, Missouri 65712-9171 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Chester Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 8:26 PM To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [AMRadio] hecklers From: Mike Sanders K0AZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] The low end of 6 meters is used EXTENSIVELY on CW for weak signal intercontinental DX. I don't find this so much a problem. I believe there is a similar CW subband on 2 m. as well. That represents only 1/40 of the 6m band. It would be the equivalent of a 12.5 kHz kHz CW band on 80m. The real problem is with the outdated subband restrictions we have on HF. For example, 50% of the 3.5-4.0 mHz band is restricted to accomodate communications that could easily fit into less than 20% of the band, even during CW contests. Don k4kyv ___ This message was typed using the DVORAK keyboard layout. Try it - you'll like it. http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/ http://gigliwood.com/abcd/ __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/243 - Release Date: 1/27/06 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/243 - Release Date: 1/27/06
RE: [AMRadio] Coleman Powermate Cold Heat Soldering iron review
Thanks for the report Jim. K0AZ Mike Sanders 18169 Highway 174 MT Vernon, Missouri 65712-9171 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim candela Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 9:05 AM To: Discussion of AM Radio Subject: [AMRadio] Coleman Powermate Cold Heat Soldering iron review Hi All, I received one of these soldering irons for Christmas. I've long seen the ads, and wondered if this device would be a useful addition to my ham shack. They take 3 AA batteries, and I had 3 freshly charged 2000 ma / hr NIMH batteries handy. The device appears to have a graphite split tip such that no current flows until something conductive is put into the gap. I tried solder, and had to wiggle it around to make connection, and then yes it did melt briefly until the blob fell out opening the current path. Next step was to solder something. I tried to unsolder a wire from a PCB. I had to change angle to get the connection, and the pad warmed, cooled, warmed, cooled as I moved the iron to regain the connection. After about 30 seconds, no more heat...just cold heat I guess. I looked at the tip, and plastic from the tip mount had melted and filled the gap between the graphite elements. The tip was shot! Right now my Coleman soldering iron is in the trash can alongside my Tornado fuel saver. %^$^%$*^^%*$*$ Don't waste your money on this soldering iron... Regards, Jim Candela WD5JKO -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.18/230 - Release Date: 1/14/2006 __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.18/230 - Release Date: 1/14/06 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.18/230 - Release Date: 1/14/06
RE: [AMRadio] Who Sets the AM Window Frequencies?
Lemme see, if I remember correctly the SSB window on 20 was about 14.290 to 14.300 or something like that back in 1959. Can't remember who set it but suspect those pesky AMers had something to do with that. 8) K0AZ Mike Sanders 18169 Highway 174 MT Vernon, Missouri 65712-9171 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of peter markavage Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 1:38 AM To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Who Sets the AM Window Frequencies? There are no AM window frequencies. It's a myth probably started by sideband operators years ago to keep the AM'ers contained. Any frequency is a gateway to AM fun and enjoyment. The current band plan(cough) identifies AM calling frequencies. Pete, wa2cwa On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:46:22 -0600 Mike Duke, K5XU [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm just curious to know about how the current AM window frequencies were determined. The one for 15 meters appears to have drifted up and down the band over several years. I recall it being 21.330 one year, then 21.390, 21.415, 21.430, and now apparently 21.425. I'm delighted to see the recent attempts at activity on 15 meters, and will make additional comments relative to that band later. Mike Duke, K5XU __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/197 - Release Date: 12/9/05 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/197 - Release Date: 12/9/05
