Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m

2008-06-09 Thread Jim Wilhite
Hope you get it Ken, it will help.  For an all around transmitter, 
the DX 100 is one of the simplest and best.  Quality of parts is 
unparalled and if the construction is proper it will last a long 
time if care is taken.


I hope to contact you some day too.  Listen on 10 AM, in the late 
afternoon and early evening.  I had a nice 30 minute conversation 
with K9HZ the other day out in Goshen, IN.


73 for now.

Jim


- Original Message - 
From: "Ken Zuercher"



Jim,

"The more work you put into the antenna the better the
payoff no matter
what the transmitter."
Truer words have never been spoken!
My lot is 48X108ft. I do have a Hygain vertical and a
MiniQuad that may get put back into service. I used to
run QRP with the vertical on 80-10 meters with a Heath
HW-8. I worked all over when conditions were fair to
better. I also used the 75 meter half sloper to check
in toa cw net every day. They could hear me so I guess
it was oK. I'm negotiating with a friend here in
Toledo to take custody of his DX-100. That should help
on 75 AM. "Have some splainin to do Lucy" about the
size of the stuff I am bringing into the house. Thanks
for the advice and good conversation. Hope to meet you
on the air some time.
Ken
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Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m

2008-06-09 Thread Ken Zuercher
Jim,
 
"The more work you put into the antenna the better the
payoff no matter 
what the transmitter."
Truer words have never been spoken!
My lot is 48X108ft. I do have a Hygain vertical and a
MiniQuad that may get put back into service. I used to
run QRP with the vertical on 80-10 meters with a Heath
HW-8. I worked all over when conditions were fair to
better. I also used the 75 meter half sloper to check
in toa cw net every day. They could hear me so I guess
it was oK. I'm negotiating with a friend here in
Toledo to take custody of his DX-100. That should help
on 75 AM. "Have some splainin to do Lucy" about the
size of the stuff I am bringing into the house. Thanks
for the advice and good conversation. Hope to meet you
on the air some time.
Ken
--- Jim Wilhite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Ken,
> 
> How much space do you have?  If your tower is 50-60
> ft. could you 
> possibly install an Inverted L?  Say 55 ft vertical
> (the more the 
> better) with the rest horizontal out to about
> 160-170 ft and the end 
> as high as possible.  Feed that with 50 ohm coax and
> use a series 
> cap in the center of 100-300 pico farads.  If you
> will do that, you 
> will be able to tune the thing on all bands with a
> good tuner at the 
> transmitter.  The downside is that it will be a
> better antenna for 
> long distant communications and not as good for
> distances out to 500 
> miles.  I have 44 ft. vertical and the rest
> horizontal and it works 
> on 160 both close in and at a distance (as many
> radials as you can 
> put in).
> 
> On 75 meters, however it is distance dependent. 
> Close in stations 
> are weak, stations out over 500 miles do well.  As
> for power, the DX 
> 40 will have trouble on 160 and 75 on AM in the
> evening.  However on 
> 40 and above you will make adequate contacts.  On CW
> you will do 
> fine on 75-10 and ok on 160.  I have a 40/75 meter
> dipole (the poles 
> support the ends as high as the center), the
> inverted L plus a 5 
> band beam for the upper bands.  I find the L works
> fine on the upper 
> bands.
> 
> For transmitters I use a B&W 5100B for SSB, a B&W
> 5100 , Globe 
> Champion 300A and a Globe King 500A.  On the upper
> bands, power is 
> not that important, but on 75, especially at night,
> it is.  CW is 
> much more forgiving than AM so take that into
> consideration.  The 
> more work you put into the antenna the better the
> payoff no matter 
> what the transmitter.
> 
> 73
> 
> Jim/W5JO
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Ken Zuercher" <
> 
> 
> > Jim, If I had a little more land, I'd put up
> dipoles
> > also. I am however using half slopers on 40,20,
> and 10
> > meters. the longest is only 32 feet. The 40 meter
> unit
> > tunes well on 15 also. i haven't worked anyone on
> 15
> > as I haven't been around when the band is open. I
> am
> > just about able to put up a 75 meter half sloper
> to a
> > point on a tree from the tower. What do you use to
> > tickle the dipoles? I have a Heath DX-40 which is
> more
> > than enough for any cw contact but I haven't done
> more
> > than test on AM. Do you think the higher bands
> will go
> > with the lower power on AM?
> > Thanks for the advice in advance!
> > Ken KC8QO
> >
> 
>
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Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m

2008-06-05 Thread alsan19420

My HW-16 still goes well with only 25 watts.

Al Perkins KA1KIX

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From: "Ellen Rugowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 5:42 AM
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 


Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m


Hi Ken,

Yes, very much so, due to their lower noise levels (especially in the 
spring
and summer, when thunderstorms are more prevalent in the US).  I've had 
good
success with 20W of carrier power or less, on 10M, when the band is in 
good

shape.

73,
Ellen - AF9J

- Original Message - 
From: "Ken Zuercher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"

Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m




I have a Heath DX-40 which is more
than enough for any cw contact but I haven't done more
than test on AM. Do you think the higher bands will go
with the lower power on AM?
Thanks for the advice in advance!
Ken KC8QO



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Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m

2008-06-05 Thread Jim Wilhite

Hi Ken,

How much space do you have?  If your tower is 50-60 ft. could you 
possibly install an Inverted L?  Say 55 ft vertical (the more the 
better) with the rest horizontal out to about 160-170 ft and the end 
as high as possible.  Feed that with 50 ohm coax and use a series 
cap in the center of 100-300 pico farads.  If you will do that, you 
will be able to tune the thing on all bands with a good tuner at the 
transmitter.  The downside is that it will be a better antenna for 
long distant communications and not as good for distances out to 500 
miles.  I have 44 ft. vertical and the rest horizontal and it works 
on 160 both close in and at a distance (as many radials as you can 
put in).


On 75 meters, however it is distance dependent.  Close in stations 
are weak, stations out over 500 miles do well.  As for power, the DX 
40 will have trouble on 160 and 75 on AM in the evening.  However on 
40 and above you will make adequate contacts.  On CW you will do 
fine on 75-10 and ok on 160.  I have a 40/75 meter dipole (the poles 
support the ends as high as the center), the inverted L plus a 5 
band beam for the upper bands.  I find the L works fine on the upper 
bands.


For transmitters I use a B&W 5100B for SSB, a B&W 5100 , Globe 
Champion 300A and a Globe King 500A.  On the upper bands, power is 
not that important, but on 75, especially at night, it is.  CW is 
much more forgiving than AM so take that into consideration.  The 
more work you put into the antenna the better the payoff no matter 
what the transmitter.


73

Jim/W5JO


- Original Message - 
From: "Ken Zuercher" <




Jim, If I had a little more land, I'd put up dipoles
also. I am however using half slopers on 40,20, and 10
meters. the longest is only 32 feet. The 40 meter unit
tunes well on 15 also. i haven't worked anyone on 15
as I haven't been around when the band is open. I am
just about able to put up a 75 meter half sloper to a
point on a tree from the tower. What do you use to
tickle the dipoles? I have a Heath DX-40 which is more
than enough for any cw contact but I haven't done more
than test on AM. Do you think the higher bands will go
with the lower power on AM?
Thanks for the advice in advance!
Ken KC8QO



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Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m

2008-06-05 Thread Ellen Rugowski
Hi Ken,

Yes, very much so, due to their lower noise levels (especially in the spring
and summer, when thunderstorms are more prevalent in the US).  I've had good
success with 20W of carrier power or less, on 10M, when the band is in good
shape.

73,
Ellen - AF9J

- Original Message - 
From: "Ken Zuercher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"

Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m



> I have a Heath DX-40 which is more
> than enough for any cw contact but I haven't done more
> than test on AM. Do you think the higher bands will go
> with the lower power on AM?
> Thanks for the advice in advance!
> Ken KC8QO
>

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Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m

2008-06-04 Thread Ken Zuercher
Jim, If I had a little more land, I'd put up dipoles
also. I am however using half slopers on 40,20, and 10
meters. the longest is only 32 feet. The 40 meter unit
tunes well on 15 also. i haven't worked anyone on 15
as I haven't been around when the band is open. I am
just about able to put up a 75 meter half sloper to a
point on a tree from the tower. What do you use to
tickle the dipoles? I have a Heath DX-40 which is more
than enough for any cw contact but I haven't done more
than test on AM. Do you think the higher bands will go
with the lower power on AM?
Thanks for the advice in advance!
Ken KC8QO


--- Jim Wilhite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> No cable where I have lived in the past 10 years.  I
> have been in 
> rural areas and there may be only two or three
> houses near me.  No 
> only that but we don't watch enough TV to put an
> antenna on the 
> tower.  My poles are used in conjunction with the
> tower to support 
> dipoles.  I like dipoles better than inverted Vees.
> 
> Jim/W5JO
> 
> 

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Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m

2008-06-03 Thread Jim Wilhite
No cable where I have lived in the past 10 years.  I have been in 
rural areas and there may be only two or three houses near me.  No 
only that but we don't watch enough TV to put an antenna on the 
tower.  My poles are used in conjunction with the tower to support 
dipoles.  I like dipoles better than inverted Vees.


Jim/W5JO


- Original Message - 
From: "Ken Zuercher"



Why don't you get cable like any intelligent person?
(LOL) I don't have cable I use the 55 foot tower to
hold up ham antennas and a good TV antenna, keeps my
wife happy. My neighbors think i'm Amish (or just
cheap). I am the latter.
Ken, KC8QO


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Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m

2008-06-03 Thread Ken Zuercher
Why don't you get cable like any intelligent person?
(LOL) I don't have cable I use the 55 foot tower to
hold up ham antennas and a good TV antenna, keeps my
wife happy. My neighbors think i'm Amish (or just
cheap). I am the latter.
Ken, KC8QO
--- Jim Wilhite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It is amazing what putting poles or towers in the
> air gather.  Over 
> the years I have moved several times and when I
> installed the tower 
> neighbors all wanted to know what that thing at the
> top was.  I 
> finally wised up and told them it was just a special
> TV antenna so I 
> could watch stations in the next state.
> 
> The only person that didn't like that was the lady
> in New Mexico who 
> said it ruined her view, even though it was not in
> her line of 
> sight.
> 
> Jim/W5JO
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Peter Markavage"
> 
> > My neighbors love me (cough). For years they
> though my hobby was 
> > climbing
> > up on my roof and sticking metal poles in the air.
> >
> > Pete, wa2cwa
> 
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Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m

2008-06-02 Thread Jim Wilhite
It is amazing what putting poles or towers in the air gather.  Over 
the years I have moved several times and when I installed the tower 
neighbors all wanted to know what that thing at the top was.  I 
finally wised up and told them it was just a special TV antenna so I 
could watch stations in the next state.


The only person that didn't like that was the lady in New Mexico who 
said it ruined her view, even though it was not in her line of 
sight.


Jim/W5JO




- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Markavage"


My neighbors love me (cough). For years they though my hobby was 
climbing

up on my roof and sticking metal poles in the air.

Pete, wa2cwa


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Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m

2008-06-02 Thread Larry Szendrei

From: "M. K. Hess" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Hi folks,
>
> I love AM, and 160m .. Does anyone operate AM on 160m, and where can I find
> you?
> I've spent a few nites scanning 160, and it seems unusual that I can't find
> any AM signals!
>
> Where are you hanging out?
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike - N3EAQ
>

If you're in 3-land, chances are good you'll be within earshot of the Gray
Hair Net which operates on Tuesday nites on 1945 at 8:30PM EDT or 8:00PM
EST. On AM, of course. This net has been active weekly since the 1950s.
It's New England-based with stations as far away as Maryland checking in.

-Larry/NE1S

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Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m

2008-06-02 Thread Peter Markavage
My neighbors love me (cough). For years they though my hobby was climbing
up on my roof and sticking metal poles in the air.

Pete, wa2cwa
www.manualman.com

On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 09:56:44 -0700 "Bob Macklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> Because I am still working on getting the new antenna up. The first 
> 1/2 may
> be able to go up this week.
> 
> At 74 standing on a ladder can be a "Life Threatening Experience"!
> 
> I also don't think the people that manage this complex think highly 
> about my
> radio activities.
> 
> The manage commented that "I HAVE A LOT OF STUFF HERE"! Told her 
> that's not
> what my wife called it.
> 
> Bob Macklin
> K5MYJ
> Seattle, Wa,
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Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m

2008-06-02 Thread Ellen Rugowski
I had a blast working Jim, W5JO on 10m AM this last Friday night.
   
  73,
  Ellen - AF9J

Peter Markavage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  And, of course, there's always 20, 15, 10, and 6 meters to working those
AM'ers well beyond the horizon.

Pete, wa2cwa
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Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m

2008-06-02 Thread Bob Macklin
Because I am still working on getting the new antenna up. The first 1/2 may
be able to go up this week.

At 74 standing on a ladder can be a "Life Threatening Experience"!

I also don't think the people that manage this complex think highly about my
radio activities.

The manage commented that "I HAVE A LOT OF STUFF HERE"! Told her that's not
what my wife called it.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa,
"Real Radios Glow in the Dark"
- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Markavage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m


> I guess one have to ask; why don't you make(start) your own activity?
> Calling CQ is still in vogue. If everyone sits around and waits for
> activity, that's a poor use of the spectrum.
>
> Pete, wa2cwa
> www.manualman.com
>
>
> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:20:40 -0700 "Bob Macklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
> > I have not listened to 14,286 is some time. I guess I will start
> > parking the
> > receiver on some of these places and see if anything happens!
> >
> > Part of the problem is knowing when to expect activity.
> >
> > Bob Macklin
> > K5MYJ
> > Seattle, Wa,
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Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m

2008-06-02 Thread Peter Markavage
I guess one have to ask; why don't you make(start) your own activity?
Calling CQ is still in vogue. If everyone sits around and waits for
activity, that's a poor use of the spectrum.

Pete, wa2cwa
www.manualman.com


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> I have not listened to 14,286 is some time. I guess I will start 
> parking the
> receiver on some of these places and see if anything happens!
> 
> Part of the problem is knowing when to expect activity.
> 
> Bob Macklin
> K5MYJ
> Seattle, Wa,
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Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m

2008-06-02 Thread Bob Macklin
I have not listened to 14,286 is some time. I guess I will start parking the
receiver on some of these places and see if anything happens!

Part of the problem is knowing when to expect activity.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa,
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From: "Peter Markavage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m


> I heard several AM QSO's this past weekend around 14.286. Also heard some
> AM activity on 10 meters (several stations) and one AM QSO (4 land to 9
> land) on 6 meters. There is AM life beyond 75 and/or 160 meters.
>
> Pete, wa2cwa
> www.manualman.com
>
> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 07:48:36 -0700 "Bob Macklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
> > Is there still any AM activity on 14,286. I have not heard anything
> > here in
> > Seattle in at least 3 years.
> >
> > Bob Macklin
> > K5MYJ
> > Seattle, Wa,
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Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m

2008-06-02 Thread Peter Markavage
I heard several AM QSO's this past weekend around 14.286. Also heard some
AM activity on 10 meters (several stations) and one AM QSO (4 land to 9
land) on 6 meters. There is AM life beyond 75 and/or 160 meters.

Pete, wa2cwa
www.manualman.com

On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 07:48:36 -0700 "Bob Macklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Is there still any AM activity on 14,286. I have not heard anything 
> here in
> Seattle in at least 3 years.
> 
> Bob Macklin
> K5MYJ
> Seattle, Wa,
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Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m

2008-06-02 Thread Todd, KA1KAQ
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Peter Markavage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And, of course, there's always 20, 15, 10, and 6 meters to working those
> AM'ers well beyond the horizon.

Yes indeed, without the 'big' antenna issues. Fired up the Clegg
station over the weekend Pete, no ant presently but hope to change
that this week/weekend. Looking forward to working you on 6 after all
these years. Who knows where else?

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Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m

2008-06-02 Thread Bob Macklin
Is there still any AM activity on 14,286. I have not heard anything here in
Seattle in at least 3 years.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
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From: "Peter Markavage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m


> And, of course, there's always 20, 15, 10, and 6 meters to working those
> AM'ers well beyond the horizon.
>
> Pete, wa2cwa
> www.manualman.com
>
> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 09:25:11 -0400 "Todd, KA1KAQ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
> > On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Jim Wilhite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Most stations are on 1885, 1915,1980 and 1985 depending on QRM.
> > You might
> > > catch someone but the chances are rare.  See you next fall.
> >
> > Have also heard stations on 1945 with some regularity over the last
> > few winters. 1885/1945 were the original frequencies mentioned to
> > me
> > years ago, with 1985 and others popping up as well.
> >
> > When all else fails - grab a frequency and use it for AM. The
> > limitations of crystal control are another matter, of course. (o:
> >
> > ~ Todd,  KA1KAQ
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Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m

2008-06-02 Thread Peter Markavage
And, of course, there's always 20, 15, 10, and 6 meters to working those
AM'ers well beyond the horizon.

Pete, wa2cwa
www.manualman.com

On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 09:25:11 -0400 "Todd, KA1KAQ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Jim Wilhite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Most stations are on 1885, 1915,1980 and 1985 depending on QRM.  
> You might
> > catch someone but the chances are rare.  See you next fall.
> 
> Have also heard stations on 1945 with some regularity over the last
> few winters. 1885/1945 were the original frequencies mentioned to 
> me
> years ago, with 1985 and others popping up as well.
> 
> When all else fails - grab a frequency and use it for AM. The
> limitations of crystal control are another matter, of course. (o:
> 
> ~ Todd,  KA1KAQ
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Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m

2008-06-02 Thread Todd, KA1KAQ
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Jim Wilhite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Most stations are on 1885, 1915,1980 and 1985 depending on QRM.  You might
> catch someone but the chances are rare.  See you next fall.

Have also heard stations on 1945 with some regularity over the last
few winters. 1885/1945 were the original frequencies mentioned to me
years ago, with 1985 and others popping up as well.

When all else fails - grab a frequency and use it for AM. The
limitations of crystal control are another matter, of course. (o:

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Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m

2008-06-02 Thread Tim Kass
Also try 1936 khz  
   
  73, Tim K8WBL

Jim Wilhite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Mike, most 160 AM people have gone into hibernation for the summer. 
Next fall when the atmospheric noise subsides, they will return.

Most stations are on 1885, 1915,1980 and 1985 depending on QRM. You 
might catch someone but the chances are rare. See you next fall.

73

Jim/W5JO


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From: "M. K. Hess"


> Hi folks,
>
> I love AM, and 160m .. Does anyone operate AM on 160m, and where 
> can I find
> you?
> I've spent a few nites scanning 160, and it seems unusual that I 
> can't find
> any AM signals!
>
> Where are you hanging out?
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike - N3EAQ

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Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m

2008-06-01 Thread Jim Wilhite
Mike, most 160 AM people have gone into hibernation for the summer. 
Next fall when the atmospheric noise subsides, they will return.


Most stations are on 1885, 1915,1980 and 1985 depending on QRM.  You 
might catch someone but the chances are rare.  See you next fall.


73

Jim/W5JO


- Original Message - 
From: "M. K. Hess"




Hi folks,

I love AM, and 160m .. Does anyone operate AM on 160m, and where 
can I find

you?
I've spent a few nites scanning 160, and it seems unusual that I 
can't find

any AM signals!

Where are you hanging out?

Regards,

Mike - N3EAQ


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Re: [AMRadio] AM on 160m

2008-06-01 Thread Mike Sawyer
1885 when the static crashes are held to a minimum. You just missed a good 
season. However, I found that I enjoy mid-afternoon QSO's because the S/N 
ratio is much better.
Mod-U-Lator,
Mike(y)
W3SLK
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Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 10:51 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] AM on 160m


Hi folks,

I love AM, and 160m .. Does anyone operate AM on 160m, and where can I find
you?
I've spent a few nites scanning 160, and it seems unusual that I can't find
any AM signals!

Where are you hanging out?

Regards,

Mike - N3EAQ


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[AMRadio] AM on 160m

2008-06-01 Thread M. K. Hess
Hi folks,

I love AM, and 160m .. Does anyone operate AM on 160m, and where can I find
you?
I've spent a few nites scanning 160, and it seems unusual that I can't find
any AM signals!

Where are you hanging out?

Regards,

Mike - N3EAQ


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