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21 Aug 2002 @ 23:52:49 UTC Logged in as K0PJG Log Out The QRZ Home Page » Welcome K0PJG [ Your Control Panel :: Log Out :: New Posts ] Your messenger (0 new) QRZ Forum > Open Forums > Talk and Opinions > CB Operations; Illegal Equipment es Use Topic: CB Operations; Illegal Equipment es Use, Re-Visited............... < Next Oldest | Next Newest > K0PJG Group: Members Posts: 49 Joined: -- Posted: Aug. 21 2002,16:52 ------------------------------------------------------------ Illegal CB Ops es the proliferation of Illegal equipment has not deminished one iota since the last round of discussions Ref: Illegal CB Ops in MX es US Truckers. If anything, sales have not been better for the equipment in use through out North America es MX. I am going to mention a few sites where anyone may purchase equipment targeted for the express use of Illegal CB operations es promoting Illegal Ops; http://www.cbrelectronics.com/keydowns.html http://www.paceradios.com/cart/connex_10_meter_.html http://hitmanpa118.hypermart.net/channelchart.htm http://www.cbcintl.com/, Do not miss this one, it gives you your Freq charts to operate with ( There are many more....................... A few comments from Hams Ref: above sites; #1 ( Name withheld by author's request ) It's worse than you think! In the last few years, a new type of CB activity has become very popular - the "Keydown Superbowl". A group, or club of CB'ers will organize a meet where the participants get together to compete over who has the biggest linear, with the most power. Amps with power levels of anywhere from 10 KW to even 50KW are operated, (often into ruggedized vertical antennas). To generate the DC required for these amps, several 72 volt railroad alternators are daisy-chained together under the hoods of trucks (Chevy Suburbans are popular). 7 alternator power plants are not uncommon. The DC goes to large DC regulators, and then to the amps, mostly solid state, but occasionally tube amps are used too. The solid state amps are typically multiple "pill" amps - "12 pill", "24 pill", up to "128" pill or more. Most of the amps are custom built by specialty shops, who advertise on the web, or at select CB shops. The favorite channel is 27.025, the "superbowl" channel. The winner gets a trophy, and sometimes some cash. Veterans of such skill-testing competitions, like to show off large pickle jars filled with "dead pills", the blown finals of their own, and competitor's amps. Some of the more technically talented prefer tube-type amps, with large broadcast tubes the preferred device. 3CX3000F1, and similar are quite popular, in pairs or quads. The amps often occupy most of the cargo space in the vehicles, shared with the requisite extra batteries. So, the next time you wonder why the CB band is always open, while 10M isn't, consider that these people have the means to make their own propagation! The other issue is not the spectrum polution, from these wickedly dirty often Class-C amps, but from the RF fields produced during the competition! Never mind FCC enforcement, maybe the EPA should get involved! #2 ( Name withheld by Author's request ) If you want to get a shock, do a serach on the phrase "10 meter" radios". These are targeted and being sold to CB'ers, and they all operate well above 28 mHz. Just one example, (check out the rebel flag).... http://www.paceradios.com/cart/connex_10_meter_.html Then take a look at this "CB channel chart". 29.655 is listed as "channel 40, band D"!!!...... http://hitmanpa118.hypermart.net/channelchart.htm Here's another...... http://www.cbcintl.com/ ("NEW! Expanded CB Channel & Frequency Chart (14Kb PDF). Free 1-page download covers Ch.1–40 in “legal” FCC band, plus 7 other bands, 4 down and 3 up. Total range shown is 25.165–28.755 MHz") #3 ( Name withheld ) Myself and others have tried and tried to get some action over this. We have sent countless e-mails to the "investigations" unit of ebay. No change. I and others have addressed the ARRL to take some kind of stand or action on this problem. They don't even answer email let alone do anything. We have sent email and examples of advertising to the FCC with no answer either. I guess it's just too much of a problem that all the above cant figure how to enforce the laws. When I was driving over the road, it was common knowledge where you could buy wide band amps up to 500 watts for CB. Plug and play, cash only. Under "ham radio" on ebay amps are blatantly listed as "base amps", or "ham radio amps". But specific questions to the sellers are rarely answered. One guy(shack_supplies_plus)imports them from Mexico or Spain. He does not allow any feedback to be shown and does not give a location. He also has automated e-mail that answers nothing when you send an inquirey. Anyway, I bought one just to make sure I had my facts straight. It was set up to transmit about 80 watts AM from about 20 MHz to 25 MHz. The guy sent along a piece of paper that gave a web site. That web site shows how to move a jumper plug over one pin, and your on the CB band. A check with my stuff here and sure enough, 80 watts from 3 to 4 on 19. Plus all KINDS of harmonics up and down the band. This was a little "cheepy" amp, but the guy also sold them on ebay up to 500 watts. You see a lot of the common names that everyone KNOWS are CB amps. Star Bright and Palomar are the most common. And, this is only the tiniest tip of the ice burg. I wonder how many hams have been ragged because of TVI, BCI, telephone interference and who knows what else, by folks with these amps in the area. They are very cheap and easy to make. I don't know how the law is going to do much about it, or they would have already by now. If it were only a few infractions, they could chase a couple down and make examples maybe, but I submit that there are THOUSANDS of these devices in use. Take a look at these items currently selling now as we speak on ebay. 1375120931 , 1374519437 ,1374954044,1374119655 . These are ALL CB amps......... Is that enough to get this discussion OFF THE GROUND All of this will AGAIN be sent to proper folks to deal with. By the way, there are Many CBer's out there that DO Not Operate Illegally.....es use the spectrum for good purposes. This discussion is not meant to demean ALL CB Operators ! Just those that BREAK Existing US LAWS..........No New Laws needed here. Just Enforce the ones we have. 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