RE: [AMRadio] CHU has to move?

2006-10-19 Thread John E. Coleman (ARS WA5BXO)
I am not a listener of CHU but I am curious as to what would be the
disadvantage to changing the license from FIXED service to BROADCASTING
service.  Are there fees involved and special broadcasting requirements that
would cost a lot of money?

John, WA5BXO


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Re: [AMRadio] CHU has to move?

2006-10-19 Thread Peter Markavage
And, overall, why do we care about this particular CHU frequency. They're
still going to be transmitting on their other frequencies, there's WWV on
a number of stops on the dial, and inexpensive atomic-type clocks all
over the market that can provide accurate time.

Pete, wa2cwa

On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:51:58 -0500 John E. Coleman (ARS WA5BXO)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I am not a listener of CHU but I am curious as to what would be the
 disadvantage to changing the license from FIXED service to 
 BROADCASTING
 service.  Are there fees involved and special broadcasting 
 requirements that
 would cost a lot of money?
 
 John, WA5BXO
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Re: [AMRadio] CHU has to move?

2006-10-19 Thread k0ng


Pete: In times past, CHU has been the 40 Meter Frequency Calibrator for me
and I am sure many others. Also propagation marker etc. Outdated,?? Perhaps
but it would be like a chair in the dark to me, dont move it.

PS, it keeps good time and I learned a few clean French words from it. HI.

73, Charlie, K0NG


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[AMRadio] CHU has to move?

2006-10-18 Thread Bob Bruhns
I read on the RX-320 group that Canadian time station CHU has been
announcing that they have to do something, either move or relicense
as a broadcaster, because ITU has allocated their 7.335 MHz
frequency to broadcasting.  Evidently they are looking for feedback
as to how this will affect listeners and users.

I think the Canadian time broadcasts are primarily for Canadian
users - but  the exact frequency is not important to me, so the
7335 KHz outlet could move anywhere in the approximate 6 to 8 MHz
range, and I would not be adversely affected.  The WWV
transmissions are especially useful because they are on even-MHz
frequencies, so if CHU moved to 8.000 MHz, that might be good.

I grew up with CHU and WWV all over shortwave, pretty much as they
are now.  I think that the shortwave era will be officially over
when they cease transmissions.  I don't want to see that happen.

  Bacon, WA3WDR
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Re: [AMRadio] CHU has to move?

2006-10-18 Thread Mark Foltarz
The response I received from Raymond Pelletier of the Institute for National
Measurement Standards states just that. They have to either move, redefine the
CHU service on 7335 or close up shop there.

The message follows :


This outreach is to collect information from users of CHU to help shape
recommendations concerning what should be done concerning changes to CHU that
will have to be in place by April 2007. 

 

In April 2007 the licence on 7.335 MHz will have to be modified to reflect
changes on the status of the band allocation by the International
Telecommunications Union. This frequency has been changed from “fixed service”
to “broadcast”. (The ITU decision does not affect the frequencies 3.33 MHz and
14.67 MHz.) Some alternatives are:

Re-licencing just might be possible, calling the 7.335 MHz a “broadcast”.  
It is also possible to stop using that frequency (the most useful of the three
we use). Stopping one signal is the easiest solution but could create problems
for some clients who are counting on this particular signal. 
Change the frequency from 7.335 MHz to a nearby fixed-service frequency. It
would need some investment from our part in new hardware and in manpower. It
could also create problems for clients, and likely not all radios will be able
to tune to the new frequency.
 

To be seriously considered, any of the above alternatives will need to have a
zero-based budgeting justification prepared, comparing it against the least
expensive alternative of closing CHU entirely. CHU is entering a phase where
major investment in new transmitters will be required if it is to be kept
operating. In the absence of input from the CHU user community, concerning the
importance of CHU’s contribution in the modern world, this last option is an
inescapable recommendation. 

 

The CHU code is also used as a radio clock, which can be used as a reference
clock for an NTP time server. Software drivers have been written that can
obtain the date and time from the code and that tune a digitally tuned radio to
one of our 3 frequencies, to get the best signal. Users of this service
generally don’t listen to the audio broadcast. So we cannot gauge the usage by
sending this announcement. 

 

Please, if you know of anyone using CHU but not aware of the possible changes
to its frequency usage, let them know and ask them to contact us. Also if you
have an important use for CHU signals, please tell us how you use our signals.

 

Be assured that we will try our best to maintain the CHU service as it is,
keeping the three frequencies as they are.

 

Thank you for your support.
Raymond Pelletier

Frequency and Time
Institute for National Measurement Standards
National Research Council Canada
M-36, room 1026
1200 Montreal Road
Ottawa, Canada K1A 0R6
Tel: (613) 993-3430
Fax: (613) 952-1394
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Government of Canada

--- Bob Bruhns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I read on the RX-320 group that Canadian time station CHU has been
 announcing that they have to do something, either move or relicense
 as a broadcaster, because ITU has allocated their 7.335 MHz
 frequency to broadcasting.  Evidently they are looking for feedback
 as to how this will affect listeners and users.
 
 I think the Canadian time broadcasts are primarily for Canadian
 users - but  the exact frequency is not important to me, so the
 7335 KHz outlet could move anywhere in the approximate 6 to 8 MHz
 range, and I would not be adversely affected.  The WWV
 transmissions are especially useful because they are on even-MHz
 frequencies, so if CHU moved to 8.000 MHz, that might be good.
 
 I grew up with CHU and WWV all over shortwave, pretty much as they
 are now.  I think that the shortwave era will be officially over
 when they cease transmissions.  I don't want to see that happen.
 
   Bacon, WA3WDR
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[AMRadio] CHU

2006-07-15 Thread david knepper
Is CHU-Canada on the air on 7335 Khz.  I cannot hear them and, yes, I did 
connect the antenna!!


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Re: [AMRadio] CHU

2006-07-15 Thread W4AWM
Hi Dave,

I have beeh having a lot of trouble hearing CHU here also. Used to get them 
on my TR-7 with NO antenna connected! Now I cannot hear them on my Sony Yacht 
Boy!

73,

John,  W4AWM


Re: [AMRadio] CHU

2006-07-15 Thread W4AWM
PS,  Just checked and there is nothing there.  I am hearing WWV on 10 and 
15MHz.

John


Re: [AMRadio] CHU

2006-07-15 Thread Larry Taft

John,

Suggest you check the bilge, maybe your yacht sank.

Larry K2LT

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Hi Dave,

I have beeh having a lot of trouble hearing CHU here also. Used to get them 
on my TR-7 with NO antenna connected! Now I cannot hear them on my Sony Yacht 
Boy!


73,

John,  W4AWM
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Re: [AMRadio] CHU

2006-07-15 Thread W4AWM
Hi Larry,

Mast is still up and receiver works on WWV...Blub, blub!

73,

John


RE: [AMRadio] CHU

2006-07-15 Thread Ed Sieb
Check 3335 and 14670. See if they're there.   Could be down for maintenance?


Ed, VA3ES




Dave, W3ST Wrote:
 Is CHU-Canada on the air on 7335 Khz.  I cannot hear them and, yes, I did
 connect the antenna!!
 Thank
 Dave, W3ST



Re: [AMRadio] CHU

2006-07-15 Thread W4AWM
Hi Ed.

I have them on 14.670, but not on 7.335. Have them both on the TR-7 with no 
antenna and the Yacht Boy. You may be correct about the maintenance.  I can 
usually hear 7.335  24/7.

73,

John,  W4AWM