Re: [AMRadio] Fighting deed restrictions (long story)
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Bob Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am living in an apartment at present in MA (you think VT is bad) It is! We used to laugh about 'Taxachussetts' because of the insanity there, but we've since surpassed you in both tax burden (highest in the US) and ridiculous politics. Uncle Teddy would probably be seen as a conservative up here. I have considered moving here someday as prices are cheap, the weather is great, and the people are nice, but I will NEVER buy or rent a condo again anywhere, here or in the States. That one Condo Cop experience was enough for me and there was no antenna restriction there. Precisely. When we decided to move to the Raleigh NC area, I started looking online long before any move, checking zoning, taxes, and so on. We were both there in April (Jen had work meetings for her new job, I was scoping out real estate), I spent a couple days with a Realtor. She showed me some very nice houses in new developments, most with an acre of land or close. Trees, country settings...and HOA restrictions. She had printed out one sheet for a property about 25 miles north of Raleigh, but figured it would be too far out for us (wife works on north Raleigh, who knows where I'll end up?). It ended up being perfect, nearly 3 acres in a very rural setting with minimal zoning restrictions meant mostly to control industrial development. Realtor was surprised, particularly since it was only meant to give us some ideas to ponder. Instead we found a house and ended up buying it. We were pretty much resigned to taking an apartment at least for a while. Many of the new homes were much 'nicer' with the latest/greatest appliances, closer to the city, and other 'pluses'. We could've chosen any of them and been happy, if the main focus had been convenience. Instead, we chose what we wanted and would be most comfortable with. Amusing part is - there are two new developments nearby, same .5 to 1 acre lots, HOAs and so on. I figure in a few years our little investment will be one of the few in the area with land, privacy, and only light zoning to deal with. That didn't happen by mistake. And when the time comes to move again, it will be to a place with more land and the same or fewer restrictions. It's called ''choice'. Far easier and more sensible than expecting others to adapt to my wishes, and certainly better than hoping for the League to solve my problems for me. You've got the right idea, Bob. Learn by past mistakes, and don't put yourself in a situation you know you won't like. BTW - don't miss George's next R-390A workshop at the October NEAR-Fest, it's going to be great! ~ Todd, KA1KAQ __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
[AMRadio] Fighting deed restrictions (long story)
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:19:02 -0400 From: Todd, KA1KAQ On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Bob Young wrote: I am living in an apartment at present in MA (you think VT is bad) It is! We used to laugh about 'Taxachussetts' because of the insanity there, but we've since surpassed you in both tax burden (highest in the US) and ridiculous politics. Uncle Teddy would probably be seen as a conservative up here. I think our states have traded places, except it is far too congested unlike your's and is still regulated to the point of stupidity, I'm looking to move too within the next couple of years and probably somewhere near you. My wife loves Miami which I really don't like very much so I figure perhaps NC is a good compromise. (Seems to be a lot of good radio people there too with one more coming) I have considered moving here someday as prices are cheap, the weather is great, and the people are nice, but I will NEVER buy or rent a condo again anywhere, here or in the States. That one Condo Cop experience was enough for me and there was no antenna restriction there. Precisely. When we decided to move to the Raleigh NC area, I started looking online long before any move, checking zoning, taxes, and so on. We were both there in April (Jen had work meetings for her new job, I was scoping out real estate), I spent a couple days with a Realtor. She showed me some very nice houses in new developments, most with an acre of land or close. Trees, country settings...and HOA restrictions. She had printed out one sheet for a property about 25 miles north of Raleigh, but figured it would be too far out for us (wife works on north Raleigh, who knows where I'll end up?). It ended up being perfect, nearly 3 acres in a very rural setting with minimal zoning restrictions meant mostly to control industrial development. Realtor was surprised, particularly since it was only meant to give us some ideas to ponder. Instead we found a house and ended up buying it. We were pretty much resigned to taking an apartment at least for a while. Sounds great to me, I think I dreamed about your house last night, hi! BTW - don't miss George's next R-390A workshop at the October NEAR-Fest, it's going to be great! ~ Todd, KA1KAQ I hope to be there, I had to work all weekend this spring, which was not fun especially since I knew what was going on in NH. His workshop was the high point of the NEAR-Fest for me last year. Bob Young KB1OKL _ Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_family_safety_072008__ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Fighting deed restrictions (long story)
I lived in a condo for one year and that was enough i didnt fight the assn because i new going in what i signed.If you buy in a deed restricted community being a ham you got what you deserved .I ran psk31 and enjoyed it to a magnet wire antenna under the eve.But the grown men who move in there should stop whining...imho.w4bni--- On Wed, 7/16/08, Bob Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bob Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AMRadio] Fighting deed restrictions (long story) To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 1:54 PM Message: 3 Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:19:02 -0400 From: Todd, KA1KAQ On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Bob Young wrote: I am living in an apartment at present in MA (you think VT is bad) It is! We used to laugh about 'Taxachussetts' because of the insanity there, but we've since surpassed you in both tax burden (highest in the US) and ridiculous politics. Uncle Teddy would probably be seen as a conservative up here. I think our states have traded places, except it is far too congested unlike your's and is still regulated to the point of stupidity, I'm looking to move too within the next couple of years and probably somewhere near you. My wife loves Miami which I really don't like very much so I figure perhaps NC is a good compromise. (Seems to be a lot of good radio people there too with one more coming) I have considered moving here someday as prices are cheap, the weather is great, and the people are nice, but I will NEVER buy or rent a condo again anywhere, here or in the States. That one Condo Cop experience was enough for me and there was no antenna restriction there. Precisely. When we decided to move to the Raleigh NC area, I started looking online long before any move, checking zoning, taxes, and so on. We were both there in April (Jen had work meetings for her new job, I was scoping out real estate), I spent a couple days with a Realtor. She showed me some very nice houses in new developments, most with an acre of land or close. Trees, country settings...and HOA restrictions. She had printed out one sheet for a property about 25 miles north of Raleigh, but figured it would be too far out for us (wife works on north Raleigh, who knows where I'll end up?). It ended up being perfect, nearly 3 acres in a very rural setting with minimal zoning restrictions meant mostly to control industrial development. Realtor was surprised, particularly since it was only meant to give us some ideas to ponder. Instead we found a house and ended up buying it. We were pretty much resigned to taking an apartment at least for a while. Sounds great to me, I think I dreamed about your house last night, hi! BTW - don't miss George's next R-390A workshop at the October NEAR-Fest, it's going to be great! ~ Todd, KA1KAQ I hope to be there, I had to work all weekend this spring, which was not fun especially since I knew what was going on in NH. His workshop was the high point of the NEAR-Fest for me last year. Bob Young KB1OKL _ Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_family_safety_072008__ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
[AMRadio] Fighting deed restrictions (long story)
I didn't buy the place, just rented it for 6 months here in Lima Peru. I didn't whine, I WON and THERE WAS NOTHING ABOUT ANTENNAS in the agreement we signed, also it was not a deed restricted community, here in Lima most condos are in very big tall buildings, not sprawling communities like in the states and the antenna was a LW on the roof of this 5 story building out of sight of everyone with the lead in wire coming down a pipe right into the cable outlet. Most of the people there were very nice, it was the idiot 20 year old security guard who thought he was a cop who caused all the problems. This taught me that in a condo where everyone owns a piece of it, it only takes one Culo (if you don't speak Spanish you can guess what that means, apologies to all who can) to cause problems. Bob Young KB1OKL Message: 3 Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:05:30 -0700 (PDT) From: alton young Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Fighting deed restrictions (long story) To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I lived in a condo for one year and that was enough i didnt fight the assn because i new going in what i signed.If you buy in a deed restricted community being a ham you got what you deserved .I ran psk31 and enjoyed it to a magnet wire antenna under the eve.But the grown men who move in there should stop whining...imho.w4bni--- On Wed, 7/16/08, Bob Young wrote: _ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobile_072008__ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Fighting deed restrictions (long story)
Bob that security guard sounds a lot like a bunch of them I have met here. Jim/W5JO it was the idiot 20 year old security guard who thought he was a cop who caused all the problems. Bob Young KB1OKL __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
RE: [AMRadio] Fighting deed restrictions (long story)
Up here in Canada, we call those culos, trou de cul. Same thing. Ed, VA3ES Bob Young wrote: it only takes one Culo (if you don't speak Spanish you can guess what that means, __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
[AMRadio] Fighting deed restrictions (long story)
I am living in an apartment at present in MA (you think VT is bad) and the first thing I did was scout out the area, was lucky and found a place about half mile from my father's house one day driving home from there, it's a decent place with a lot of woods in the back. I then asked the landlord if he minded if I put up some LW antennas as I was a BCB DXer, (wasn't licensed at that time), he asked me a few questions about it and said yeah, sure go ahead. Being a BCB DXer, you need very long wires, so I then asked both my neighbors who were on the other side of the short amount of woods behing my building if them minded if I ran wires through their trees, assured them they would never see them nor experience any interference, they both thought about it and said yes go ahead. I ran 2 400 ft LW's out in different directions. I then got licensed and put up a full length 160 M dipole. My landlord now knows I have a ham license but doesn't care. I have three antennas hanging off the back of the house with no problems at all. I was lucky but was polite and it didn't hurt that my father was a mailman in town and knows virtually everyone and these two guys happened to know both my father and my brother. My wife is Peruvian and I have lived here also at times (I'm here right now in Lima) We rented a condo, I wanted to put a LW on the roof, I put one up without anyone knowing until I got caught sneaking up on the roof one day through the access hole at the top of the stairs, (5 story building) It started a big mess, finally we had a big meeting with all the tenents whch took over an hour and finally they agreed, but after I got the antenna all up under the watchful eye of the idiot condo security guard who made Barney Fife seem like a genius and thought he owned the place, he then placed a lock on the hatch. When I wanted to go up there to check things I had Barney follow me every time as of course he had the key and would drive me nuts every time I went up. I wanted to throw him off the roof a couple of times. I have considered moving here someday as prices are cheap, the weather is great, and the people are nice, but I will NEVER buy or rent a condo again anywhere, here or in the States. That one Condo Cop experience was enough for me and there was no antenna restriction there. Bob KKB1OKL Message: 9 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:46:34 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [AMRadio] ARRL initiative To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed I don't have too much sympathy for a ham who would willingly move into a restricted neighborhood and then complain he can't put up antennas. But I've found it is becoming harder to find newer houses that do not have at least some deed restrictions. And folks who can't afford to buy a house and instead need to rent often face similar troubles. Apartments are the worst. _ Making the world a better place one message at a time. http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_BetterPlace__ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
