RE: [AMRadio] TVI/BCI

2005-03-23 Thread Donald Chester



I THINK IT WAS THE SAME LADY.  She finally found that it was Otis's voice
coming from the appliance but she was never convinced that what he was 
doing

was not bad for her health.


Looks  like the FCC has come to the same conclusion, now with the RF 
radiation standards in the rules.






I think the best Otis-and-his-neighbor story is the one when the Mexican
lady next door heard his voice coming out of the oven whenever he 
modulated

his rig, and she thought her kitchen stove had evil spirits in it.





Re: [AMRadio] TVI/BCI

2005-03-09 Thread Geoff

Todd, KA1KAQ wrote:

> On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 19:21:48 -0600, Geoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>  
>

>> Jim candela wrote:
>>
>>   
>>

>>> I was accused once where my neighbor said that my voice came out of the
>>> electric can opener in their kitchen. I was running a GK 500 on 10 
Am then

>>> with a 3 element beam at 25' pointed at their house that was about 50'
>>> away...
>>>
>>> 
>>

>> which is *exactly* why I want to get out of living in a neighborhood.
>>   
>

>
> Me too, Geoff  - I have no desire to get my WACCA (Worked All Cheap
> Chinese Appliances) award. I thought it was bad 15 years ago, I can't
> imagine how much worse things have gotten with all of the new
> plug-n-play crap around.
>

I mean, really... in MY case, I've got a pair of 250TH's in push-pull, 
link coupled... and in order to
keep World War III from occuring in the neighborhood, from the hours of 
6AM to 12Midnight, I
limit my power output to 100w of carrier.  ONE HUNDERED WATTS OUT, from 
a *pair* of
250TH's.  down to 1500v on the plates, 100mA... hell the modulator is 
dissapating more power than

what the final is. (another pair of 250TH's w/1500v @ 100mA bias)
From Midnight to 6am, I endulge my 'high power' craving by shoving the 
link in, until I reach 200w
of carrier output.  The final tubes -still- don't know that they're even 
on, but with a full-wave loop fed
w/450ohm ladder line, I've gotten some good reports from fairly distance 
places (like Skowhegan, ME).


My plan, all along, was to run the final around 1500v @350mA, and then 
modulate that, with the 250TH's

at 3kVDC, biased off at 150mA.  THEN, those tubes show some color ;-)

but, alas, that's only into a dummy load... only 200w output, durning 
self-imposed quiet hours...

and I still get complaints about that.

Had a neighbor, at one time, call my house at 3am, to tell me I was 
screwing up his TV (on rabbitt ears, in his garage, while he was doing 
machine-shop type work, with drills and lathes and milling machine 
running into my bedroom window, was is next to the garage he was in).  I 
said "I don't get on during the day time, except early morning, and even 
then, the power is limited... and it's 3am in the morning, I can't sleep 
because of the noise you're making, and you're bitching about me messing 
up your TV that's on RABBITT ears?  WHEN do I get to enjoy -my- hobby?"


I hung up, and he apologized the next day.

73 = Best Regards,
-Geoff/W5OMR








 






Re: [AMRadio] TVI/BCI

2005-03-09 Thread Barrie Smith
About 12 years ago I built a PP pair or 450TH's, modulated by a pair of 
304TL's.


I used "old" construction practices, and it got into everything in the 
neighborhood, including a "talking stove" about a block away.


Of course, the thing made quite a bit of power.  It's active life was very 
short.


73, Barrie, W7ALW
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To: "Discussion of AM Radio" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:26 AM
Subject: RE: [AMRadio] TVI/BCI


In the mid 70's when I was still living with my parents, I fired up my 
newly-built SB-220 amplifier and put it on the air for a while.  The next 
day our next door neighbor told me that I was causing his bathroom lights to 
glow on and off whenever I transmitted.


73, Don K2FY

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On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 19:21:48 -0600, Geoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Jim candela wrote:

>I was accused once where my neighbor said that my voice came out of the
>electric can opener in their kitchen. I was running a GK 500 on 10 Am 
>then

>with a 3 element beam at 25' pointed at their house that was about 50'
>away...
>

which is *exactly* why I want to get out of living in a neighborhood.


Me too, Geoff  - I have no desire to get my WACCA (Worked All Cheap
Chinese Appliances) award. I thought it was bad 15 years ago, I can't
imagine how much worse things have gotten with all of the new
plug-n-play crap around.

de Todd/'Boomer'  KA1KAQ
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Re: RE: [AMRadio] TVI/BCI

2005-03-09 Thread KB2WIG
I cleared up my TVI by going to my local Army/Navy surplus store. Bought some 
cammos...I worked nights, so I would sit in the bushes facing my neighbors 
house and watch him go to work. After a few days of this no more 
complaints, he didnt talk to me at all. The local Sherrif dept. was stafed by 
some nice officers...got to meet them.. told them I was practicing for 
turkey season... klc

- Original Message -
From: "Schichler, Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2005 1:26 pm
Subject: RE: [AMRadio] TVI/BCI

> In the mid 70's when I was still living with my parents, I fired 
> up my newly-built SB-220 amplifier and put it on the air for a 
> while.  The next day our next door neighbor told me that I was 
> causing his bathroom lights to glow on and off whenever I transmitted.
> 
> 73, Don K2FY
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Todd, KA1KAQ
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 10:48 AM
> To: Discussion of AM Radio
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TVI/BCI
> 
> 
> On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 19:21:48 -0600, Geoff 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Jim candela wrote:
> > 
> > >I was accused once where my neighbor said that my voice came 
> out of the
> > >electric can opener in their kitchen. I was running a GK 500 on 
> 10 Am then
> > >with a 3 element beam at 25' pointed at their house that was 
> about 50'
> > >away...
> > >
> > 
> > which is *exactly* why I want to get out of living in a 
> neighborhood.
> Me too, Geoff  - I have no desire to get my WACCA (Worked All Cheap
> Chinese Appliances) award. I thought it was bad 15 years ago, I can't
> imagine how much worse things have gotten with all of the new
> plug-n-play crap around.
> 
> de Todd/'Boomer'  KA1KAQ
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RE: [AMRadio] TVI/BCI

2005-03-09 Thread Schichler, Don
In the mid 70's when I was still living with my parents, I fired up my 
newly-built SB-220 amplifier and put it on the air for a while.  The next day 
our next door neighbor told me that I was causing his bathroom lights to glow 
on and off whenever I transmitted.

73, Don K2FY

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 10:48 AM
To: Discussion of AM Radio
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] TVI/BCI


On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 19:21:48 -0600, Geoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jim candela wrote:
> 
> >I was accused once where my neighbor said that my voice came out of the
> >electric can opener in their kitchen. I was running a GK 500 on 10 Am then
> >with a 3 element beam at 25' pointed at their house that was about 50'
> >away...
> >
> 
> which is *exactly* why I want to get out of living in a neighborhood.

Me too, Geoff  - I have no desire to get my WACCA (Worked All Cheap
Chinese Appliances) award. I thought it was bad 15 years ago, I can't
imagine how much worse things have gotten with all of the new
plug-n-play crap around.

de Todd/'Boomer'  KA1KAQ
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Re: [AMRadio] TVI/BCI

2005-03-09 Thread Todd, KA1KAQ
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 19:21:48 -0600, Geoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jim candela wrote:
> 
> >I was accused once where my neighbor said that my voice came out of the
> >electric can opener in their kitchen. I was running a GK 500 on 10 Am then
> >with a 3 element beam at 25' pointed at their house that was about 50'
> >away...
> >
> 
> which is *exactly* why I want to get out of living in a neighborhood.

Me too, Geoff  - I have no desire to get my WACCA (Worked All Cheap
Chinese Appliances) award. I thought it was bad 15 years ago, I can't
imagine how much worse things have gotten with all of the new
plug-n-play crap around.

de Todd/'Boomer'  KA1KAQ


RE: [AMRadio] TVI/BCI

2005-03-09 Thread John Coleman
I THINK IT WAS THE SAME LADY.  She finally found that it was Otis's voice
coming from the appliance but she was never convinced that what he was doing
was not bad for her health.

John, WA5BXO 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Chester
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 6:07 PM
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Subject: RE: [AMRadio] TVI/BCI


I think the best Otis-and-his-neighbor story is the one when the Mexican 
lady next door heard his voice coming out of the oven whenever he modulated 
his rig, and she thought her kitchen stove had evil spirits in it.

(Years ago when I had  my kilowatt transmitter in the upstairs bedroom my 
voice sometimes came out of the oven too.  Of course now that we have a gas 
stove that is no longer a problem.)

Don K4KYV






Re: [AMRadio] TVI/BCI

2005-03-08 Thread Geoff

Jim candela wrote:


I was accused once where my neighbor said that my voice came out of the
electric can opener in their kitchen. I was running a GK 500 on 10 Am then
with a 3 element beam at 25' pointed at their house that was about 50'
away...



which is *exactly* why I want to get out of living in a neighborhood.


---
73 = Best Regards,
-Geoff/W5OMR
(/5 New Orleans, LA)





RE: [AMRadio] TVI/BCI

2005-03-08 Thread Jim candela

I was accused once where my neighbor said that my voice came out of the
electric can opener in their kitchen. I was running a GK 500 on 10 Am then
with a 3 element beam at 25' pointed at their house that was about 50'
away...

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Re: [AMRadio] TVI/BCI

2005-03-08 Thread Anthony W. DePrato

At 10:59 AM 3/8/2005 -0500, Bill Connelly wrote:
My landlord in the 70's claimed that my 80 meter dipole was the cause of 
his burnt toast every morning.  It brought "electrical waves into the 
building"  It was only after his enlightened son interceded on my behalf 
that he purchased a new toaster.


Interesting. in 1971 i bought a quad and had it on a 8ft section of tower 
in the back yard putting it together . i worked out of town and only got to 
work on it a few hours during the weekends. it was up for about 3 weeks the 
guy across the street came over mad as could be . told me there was NO WAY 
i was putting up that big tv antenna and suck all the tv stations out of 
the air so he could not get any hi hi.. true story..

73 Tony

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RE: [AMRadio] TVI/BCI

2005-03-08 Thread John Coleman
I remember a story that Otis, K5SWK, told about his neighbor
complaining about chest pains.  They said that when Otis turned on his rig
that the neighbor's wife could feel it in her chest.  I hope I am quoting
this story correctly!  Anyway, the neighbor had sold the house because of
this but hadn't moved yet when she felt the pain again, and Otis was not
running the rig.  It turns out that when Otis would fire up the rig he would
also turn on the air conditioner which was wall mounted.  The initial
compressor start up shook the whole wall and reverberated in the garage.
The neighbor felt this and it bothered her, thinking that it was radiation
from Otis's rig.  She was very surprised to find that it was just the air
conditioner which Otis had turned on because it was a hot day and he
happened to be at home that day.

John, WA5BXO  



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Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 9:59 AM
To: Todd, KA1KAQ; Discussion of AM Radio
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My landlord in the 70's claimed that my 80 meter dipole was the cause of 
his burnt toast every morning.  It brought "electrical waves into the 
building"  It was only after his enlightened son interceded on my behalf 
that he purchased a new toaster.

Bill W3MJ


At 03:54 PM 3/7/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>Towers/antennae do this also. I once had neighbors complain that my
>tower was causing interference while I was away on a trip. Nice try,
>but it wasn't even stood up, muchless hooked up!
>
>de Todd/'Boomer'  KA1KAQ
>
>
>On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 11:37:18 -0600, John Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > I read somewhere that those license plates with your call letters on
them
> > produce TVI/BCI.
> >
> > John, WA5BXO
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Foltarz
> > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 11:02 AM
> > To: Discussion of AM Radio
> > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] QRP AM and world record?
> >
> > Well the neighbors claim I get into their TV set when my rig isn't even
on!
> >
> > Insofar miles/milliwatt is concerned, this would be a divide by zero
> > situation!
> > HI
> >
> > de KA4JVY
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> > Mark
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Re: [AMRadio] TVI/BCI

2005-03-07 Thread Todd, KA1KAQ
Towers/antennae do this also. I once had neighbors complain that my
tower was causing interference while I was away on a trip. Nice try,
but it wasn't even stood up, muchless hooked up!

de Todd/'Boomer'  KA1KAQ


On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 11:37:18 -0600, John Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I read somewhere that those license plates with your call letters on them
> produce TVI/BCI.
> 
> John, WA5BXO
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Foltarz
> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 11:02 AM
> To: Discussion of AM Radio
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] QRP AM and world record?
> 
> Well the neighbors claim I get into their TV set when my rig isn't even on!
> 
> Insofar miles/milliwatt is concerned, this would be a divide by zero
> situation!
> HI
> 
> de KA4JVY
> 
> Mark
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RE: [AMRadio] TVI/BCI

2005-03-07 Thread John Coleman
I read somewhere that those license plates with your call letters on them
produce TVI/BCI.

John, WA5BXO 

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Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 11:02 AM
To: Discussion of AM Radio
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] QRP AM and world record?

Well the neighbors claim I get into their TV set when my rig isn't even on!

Insofar miles/milliwatt is concerned, this would be a divide by zero
situation!
HI

de KA4JVY

Mark