[AMRadio] What about SB-200 with FT-101E?

2006-03-18 Thread Jose HF Silva
Hi,

I have been using this combination and got some good
reports but I have not a reasonable idea of power
output. 
So I would like to have a good estimation from those
who are better prepared to do it.

Thanks^6

73 de Jose' CT1AXG


Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:03:50 -0500
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Don K4KYV said:

I hear a lot of guys on the air with AM linears, and
most of the time 
they 
claim to be running way too much carrier  for the
tubes they are using.  
I 
often hear stuff like 200 watts out with a pair of
811A's or 250 watts 
out 
with a pair of 813's in g-g.  If so, they are cooking
the tubes, or 
else the 
efficiency is running too high, and they are 
flat-topping all over the 
place.

I agree with your comments and yes, there is no doubt
that those rigs 
are 
flat-topping.  I've been running linear amps on AM for
years and I find 
that 
the cleanest,  best sounding signal comes from a
linear with LOTS OF 
PLATE 
DISSIPATION and HEADROOM.  In addition, an audio
signal generator and 
an 
oscilloscope are mandatory to get clean results.  Not
everyone has this 
equipment and it is a hobby after all so folks do the
best they can.

As a rule of thumb I consider the plate dissipation
divided by 3 to be 
a 
general yardstick for AM linears, some tubes giving a
little more and 
some a 
little less.  In the case of a pair of 3-500Z's I rate
them in the 
333-350 
watt carrier class.  So while a pair of 813's can be a
wonderful plate 
modulated rig, as an AM linear they are not worth all
the trouble of 
building them.  It seems to me to be a waste of time
to build an AM 
linear 
with much less than 1000 watts of plate dissipation. 
Of course if you 
have 
a low power rice box and already own some kind of
linear, well go 
ahead, but 
if one is building an AM linear,  more dissipation is
better.

73,
Ken W2DTC



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Re: [AMRadio] What about SB-200 with FT-101E?

2006-03-18 Thread Peter Markavage
I've been using a SB-200 with various rigs (C.E. 100V, Laf. HA-410 (on
10, when 10 was hot), Icom 756 PRO II, Icom IC-706 MKIIG, Johnson Ranger,
and Kenwood Twins on AM for the last 15 years. Sometimes I use the
Johnson Courier as an alternative  to the SB-200. Courier also runs with
572B's. Simple to use, simple to interface, provide an extra fan on top
of the SB-200 to exhaust the heat. The SB-200 is a great workhorse. Still
using the same 572B's that were put in it in 1969. I generally run the
output between 100 and 130 watts.

Pete, wa2cwa

On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 07:48:02 -0800 (PST) Jose HF Silva
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Hi,
 
 I have been using this combination and got some good
 reports but I have not a reasonable idea of power
 output. 
 So I would like to have a good estimation from those
 who are better prepared to do it.
 
 Thanks^6
 
 73 de Jose' CT1AXG
 
 
 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:03:50 -0500
 From: kenw2dtc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Don K4KYV said:
 
 I hear a lot of guys on the air with AM linears, and
 most of the time 
 they 
 claim to be running way too much carrier  for the
 tubes they are using.  
 I 
 often hear stuff like 200 watts out with a pair of
 811A's or 250 watts 
 out 
 with a pair of 813's in g-g.  If so, they are cooking
 the tubes, or 
 else the 
 efficiency is running too high, and they are 
 flat-topping all over the 
 place.
 
 I agree with your comments and yes, there is no doubt
 that those rigs 
 are 
 flat-topping.  I've been running linear amps on AM for
 years and I find 
 that 
 the cleanest,  best sounding signal comes from a
 linear with LOTS OF 
 PLATE 
 DISSIPATION and HEADROOM.  In addition, an audio
 signal generator and 
 an 
 oscilloscope are mandatory to get clean results.  Not
 everyone has this 
 equipment and it is a hobby after all so folks do the
 best they can.
 
 As a rule of thumb I consider the plate dissipation
 divided by 3 to be 
 a 
 general yardstick for AM linears, some tubes giving a
 little more and 
 some a 
 little less.  In the case of a pair of 3-500Z's I rate
 them in the 
 333-350 
 watt carrier class.  So while a pair of 813's can be a
 wonderful plate 
 modulated rig, as an AM linear they are not worth all
 the trouble of 
 building them.  It seems to me to be a waste of time
 to build an AM 
 linear 
 with much less than 1000 watts of plate dissipation. 
 Of course if you 
 have 
 a low power rice box and already own some kind of
 linear, well go 
 ahead, but 
 if one is building an AM linear,  more dissipation is
 better.
 
 73,
 Ken W2DTC