Re: [AMRadio] A Reminder - ALL PLEASE READ

2004-01-16 Thread Geoff Edmonson
> Agreed!  I ocasionally hit "reply all" when responding to a message that has
> been CC'ed to another list that I am  not a memeber of.  I get an automated
> error message of "undeliverable" from that list.  I would expect that most
> people will eventually figure that one out.

Same here - I just did that, intentionally, so I could show Brian the
notification I get...

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Your mail to '(other_list)' with the subject

message test

Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.

The reason it is being held:

Post by non-member to a members-only list

Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive
notification of the moderator's decision.
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I'm sure that the text of the message can be set to whatever you like, Brian.

73 = Best Regards,
-Geoff/W5OMR




Re: [AMRadio] A Reminder - ALL PLEASE READ

2004-01-16 Thread Donald Chester


It's far more important to keep the list tidy and useful to all, and the 
web lids at bay.
And if you're spending time sifting thru bounced posts, I'd suggest just 
letting them fail.

Eventually we'll figure it out when we don't see our posts pop up.>



Agreed!  I ocasionally hit "reply all" when responding to a message that has 
been CC'ed to another list that I am  not a memeber of.  I get an automated 
error message of "undeliverable" from that list.  I would expect that most 
people will eventually figure that one out.


-k4kyv

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Re: [AMRadio] A Reminder - ALL PLEASE READ

2004-01-16 Thread Todd Bigelow - PS

Brian -

I'll echo what others have said, *please* don't change the list. If you 
think you have headaches now...


As far as the failed accounts problem, why not just make up a generic 
email stating what the problem is, how to fix it, and how to contact you 
if they have questions, then just unsubscribe any 'problem' accounts 
that may arise as a result?  I'm guessing that the list software would 
allow you to turn off the rejected posts so you don't have to be annoyed 
by them. While your desire is to to the right and best thing,  if you 
act as a conduit without the posters realizing their mistake or account 
problem, it'll only continue. Come to think of it, I've gotten responses 
before when hitting 'reply all' and one of the addresses happened to be 
a list I wasn't subscribed to. The return message informed me that I 
could not post to a list that I wasn't subscribed to, etc. If this 
software has that feature, why not just turn it on and let those who 
post incorrectly figure it out? If it doesn't have the feature, 
well...it should! (o:


Others are right - you don't want the free-for-all of just random posts 
and problems created by the idiots and script kiddies. The list really 
*is* open, afterall. It's not moderated, and all one needs to do to use 
it is subscribe. If people are too lazy or incapable of meeting this 
one, simple requirement (but are capable of using a computer and the 
internet), would you really want them here?


de Todd/'Boomer'  KA1KAQ



Re: [AMRadio] A Reminder - ALL PLEASE READ

2004-01-16 Thread Gary Blau
Hey, Brian:

As someone who is likely one of your occasional 'perps' in this matter, first 
let me apologize in advance.
Sometimes when hastily posting from work or home it's easy to forget what's 
what.  But that's no excuse.
I don't expect you, or any other list I belong to, to change your policy and be 
my nanny.

It's far more important to keep the list tidy and useful to all, and the web 
lids at bay.
And if you're spending time sifting thru bounced posts, I'd suggest just 
letting them fail.
Eventually we'll figure it out when we don't see our posts pop up.  No sense 
making yourself crazy over it.

g

"B. Morgan Sherrod" wrote:

> ...For those who use more than one email account, must use the one you 
> entered when you signed up to this list when
> sending
> a post to this list



Re: [AMRadio] A Reminder - ALL PLEASE READ

2004-01-16 Thread KC8OPP Roger S.
Brian,

Please leave things as they are.  The list should not
have to change to accommodate a few users.

Thanks,

73's
Roger
KC8OPP

--- "B. Morgan Sherrod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For those who use more than one email account, must
> use the one you entered when you signed up to this
> list when sending
> a post to this list.
> 
> If you belong to more than one QSL.NET mailing list,
> and have different email accounts setup on each,
> then it is likely
> you will not be able to "CC" the other ones as well.
> 
> I am getting a hoard of rejections from the list
> manager (software) that I have to sift through every
> day, simply
> because many posts are sent using the wrong (the one
> not subscribed to the AM List) account.
> 
> PLEASE be more careful when you post to this (and
> other) list in regard to what account you are
> sending from.
> 
> This is an "open" list, in other words, anyone can
> join, but you can only use the email account you
> setup.  I do this so
> that we do not have SPAMMERs trying to either post
> to the list, or farm email addresses from the
> members.  So far we
> have been blessed from that intrusion for the past
> several years.
> 
> If anyone would like to suggest we make the list
> totally open to anyone "without membership", please,
> let's discuss it
> openly on the list for all to see.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brian Sherrod
> W5AMI
> PS: I normally let the list flow without my
> intervention, and think that is a  good policy. 
> However, I must insist that
> we decide on what to do if so many folks want to
> post from different (those not subscribed) email
> accounts.
> 
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Re: [AMRadio] A Reminder - ALL PLEASE READ

2004-01-15 Thread Damon S Raphael MD (W7MD)
Don't open the list to all.  The crazies and spammers will take it over if
you do.
73
Damon Raphael, W7MD
Tucson, AZ

- Original Message - 
From: "B. Morgan Sherrod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "AMRadio" 
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 1:28 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] A Reminder - ALL PLEASE READ


> For those who use more than one email account, must use the one you
entered when you signed up to this list when sending
> a post to this list.
>
> If you belong to more than one QSL.NET mailing list, and have different
email accounts setup on each, then it is likely
> you will not be able to "CC" the other ones as well.
>
> I am getting a hoard of rejections from the list manager (software) that I
have to sift through every day, simply
> because many posts are sent using the wrong (the one not subscribed to the
AM List) account.
>
> PLEASE be more careful when you post to this (and other) list in regard to
what account you are sending from.
>
> This is an "open" list, in other words, anyone can join, but you can only
use the email account you setup.  I do this so
> that we do not have SPAMMERs trying to either post to the list, or farm
email addresses from the members.  So far we
> have been blessed from that intrusion for the past several years.
>
> If anyone would like to suggest we make the list totally open to anyone
"without membership", please, let's discuss it
> openly on the list for all to see.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian Sherrod
> W5AMI
> PS: I normally let the list flow without my intervention, and think that
is a  good policy.  However, I must insist that
> we decide on what to do if so many folks want to post from different
(those not subscribed) email accounts.
>
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>




RE: [AMRadio] A Reminder - ALL PLEASE READ

2004-01-15 Thread Donald Chester


If anyone would like to suggest we make the list totally open to anyone 
"without membership", please, let's discuss it

openly on the list for all to see.


Let's leave it like it is.  Recall what recently happened to the "AM Window" 
open-without-membership BB.


-k4kyv

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Re: [AMRadio] A Reminder - ALL PLEASE READ

2004-01-15 Thread Gary Schafer

Brian,

Part of the problem may be that some of the ISP's have gotten bought out 
 and a new email address is required for everyone. The old company 
still forwards the email via the old address for many months.




I was subscribed on AT&T in the past. Comcast bought them out. I had to 
unsubscribe the old address and resubscribe with the new address at Comcast.


If I had not unsubscribed and resubscribed with the new address, I would 
be still receiving the list but unable to post because of the new address.


I just recently discovered that problem that I have on another list. (I 
forgot to unsubscribe and subscribe with the new address) I hadn't 
posted to it in some time but still receive the list and was unaware 
until I tried to post to it.


AT&T still, several months latter, forwards mail addressed to the AT&T 
address.


73
Gary  K4FMX


B. Morgan Sherrod wrote:

For those who use more than one email account, must use the one you entered 
when you signed up to this list when sending
a post to this list.

If you belong to more than one QSL.NET mailing list, and have different email 
accounts setup on each, then it is likely
you will not be able to "CC" the other ones as well.

I am getting a hoard of rejections from the list manager (software) that I have 
to sift through every day, simply
because many posts are sent using the wrong (the one not subscribed to the AM 
List) account.

PLEASE be more careful when you post to this (and other) list in regard to what 
account you are sending from.

This is an "open" list, in other words, anyone can join, but you can only use 
the email account you setup.  I do this so
that we do not have SPAMMERs trying to either post to the list, or farm email 
addresses from the members.  So far we
have been blessed from that intrusion for the past several years.

If anyone would like to suggest we make the list totally open to anyone "without 
membership", please, let's discuss it
openly on the list for all to see.

Thanks,

Brian Sherrod
W5AMI
PS: I normally let the list flow without my intervention, and think that is a  
good policy.  However, I must insist that
we decide on what to do if so many folks want to post from different (those not 
subscribed) email accounts.

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