Re: [AMRadio] Negative Bias Supply on Viking II

2010-03-28 Thread Bry Carling
That sounds right Nick. That would be the normal arrangement 
for any negative bias power supply. Same style circuit as used in 
many many transmitter designs from the tube era.

73s - Bry, AF4K...

From:   Nick England navy.ra...@gmail.com

 I don't have a Viking II any more, but the schematic certainly
 shows
 the two negative leads of C12-C13 (dual 15uf/150v) going to either
 side of the bias supply choke and the positive lead to ground. In
 the
 photo in the manual it looks like this dual cap indeed has two
 black
 (negative) leads and a single red (common positive) lead.


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Re: [AMRadio] Negative Bias Supply on Viking II

2010-03-27 Thread Bernie Doran
Hi Arnie: be careful with the answers you get, if this is a simple full wave 
I would expect the plates to be tied together and only one cap.  I am not 
familer with Vikings, but hopefully you get an answer from someone that 
knows of what they speak. I have seen some strange circuits that made no 
sense till I carefully sketched them out, then its sort of OH so that what 
it is  Bernie- Original Message - 
From: Arnie Adelman arnie.adel...@infosec-consultant.com
To: amradio@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:29 AM
Subject: [AMRadio] Negative Bias Supply on Viking II


 I've begun recapping the Viking II I'm working on.  The dual 15Uf/150V cap 
 connected to the 6AL5 has the positive sides of the cap going to the 6AL5 
 and choke and the negative side going to ground.  Since this guy is 
 intended to produce negative voltage and the connection is to the plates 
 of the 6AL5 rather than the cathodes, shouldn't the filter caps (I'm using 
 two 22Uf/450V) positive side be going to ground and the negative sides 
 going to the 6AL5 plates?

 I'm reasonably certain this is correct, but the original design used a 
 dual (two caps in one package with a common ground lead) cap and I've 
 never seen one where the common lead wasn't the negative sides of the 
 electrolytic cap.

 Thanks for your advice.

 arnie - W1GCI
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Re: [AMRadio] Negative Bias Supply on Viking II

2010-03-27 Thread Nick England
I don't have a Viking II any more, but the schematic certainly shows
the two negative leads of C12-C13 (dual 15uf/150v) going to either
side of the bias supply choke and the positive lead to ground. In the
photo in the manual it looks like this dual cap indeed has two black
(negative) leads and a single red (common positive) lead.

Nearby is a dual 15uf/450v (C10-C11) in the B+ line, with a single
negative lead to ground and maybe that's confused someone?

Manual at http://bama.edebris.com/manuals/johnson/viking2(2)/

cheers,
Nick K4NYW

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Arnie Adelman
arnie.adel...@infosec-consultant.com wrote:
 I've begun recapping the Viking II I'm working on.  The dual 15Uf/150V cap 
 connected to the 6AL5 has the positive sides of the cap going to the 6AL5 and 
 choke and the negative side going to ground.  Since this guy is intended to 
 produce negative voltage and the connection is to the plates of the 6AL5 
 rather than the cathodes, shouldn't the filter caps (I'm using two 22Uf/450V) 
 positive side be going to ground and the negative sides going to the 6AL5 
 plates?

 I'm reasonably certain this is correct, but the original design used a dual 
 (two caps in one package with a common ground lead) cap and I've never seen 
 one where the common lead wasn't the negative sides of the electrolytic cap.

 Thanks for your advice.

 arnie - W1GCI
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