Re: [AMRadio] PA set up using ant analyzer

2006-06-08 Thread Edward B Richards
Hi Dennis;

I am having trouble resonating the plate tank on the linear amplifier I
just built. When checking for resonance with a grid dip meter using a
5,000 ohm resistor from plate to ground, should the tubes (4-400 X 2) be
in the circuit? 

Also, the plate coil has 18 turns vertically and 5 turns horizontally for
10 meters. If I couple the GDO to the small coil will it see 80 meters?

Thanks,

 Ed Richards K6UUZ


Re: [AMRadio] PA set up using ant analyzer

2006-06-08 Thread Mike Dorworth, K4XM
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 Hi Dennis;

 I am having trouble resonating the plate tank on the linear amplifier I
 just built. When checking for resonance with a grid dip meter using a
 5,000 ohm resistor from plate to ground, should the tubes (4-400 X 2) be
 in the circuit?




This is not Dennis but the answer is the tubes must be there or a capacitor
equal to the total output capacity of the tubes in their place. i.e.28 pf
( 14 each) for a pair of 813's check tube table for output cap. The analyzer
should show a 1 to 1 swr from the antenna looking in when it is resonated.
The grid dipper technique is differnet. You take the resonate plate load z ,
plate volts divided by 2 time plate current and divide by disired operating
Q, 10 or so for the input capacitor, with the tank cold disconnected. use a
capacity meter to set the C1 and then leave it alone, the output cap C2 is
the load z ( 50) divided by q, about 2. These give the x sub c value which
must be converted to capacity.  Then you tap ( short coil till the analyzer
shows one to one from the output jack). Hope this helps..For pi-network.
check ARRL handbook for pi-l. Mike




RE: [AMRadio] PA set up using ant analyzer

2006-06-05 Thread uvcm inc.
Does it matter the type of tube, 833 or 592 r
Thanks
Brad

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Subject: [AMRadio] PA set up using ant analyzer


 Does anyone know what value resistor between the plate of and ground for a
 833 and a 892r, so I can set up the tank using an antenna analyzer like a
 mfj 369?

The resistor value is determined (exactly) from the platevoltage divided by
2 times the plate current.. About 5000 ohms or so.

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Re: [AMRadio] PA set up using ant analyzer

2006-06-05 Thread W7QHO

In a message dated 6/4/06 8:13:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 Does it matter the type of tube, 833 or 592 r
 

What's a 592 r tube?   Can't find it in Fathauer or Sibley.   See 
references to a 592 and a 592/3-200A3 but neither looks like a substitute for 
an 
833.

Dennis D. W7QHO
Glendale, CA


Re: [AMRadio] PA set up using ant analyzer

2006-06-05 Thread Mike Dorworth, K4XM
The resonate plate load is the same for any class C amplifier, plate voltage
divide by 2 times plate current. It is one half of the modulating inpedance.
It is the same for a 6V6, 6AQ5 or a pair of 4-1000's.. Mike

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Does it matter the type of tube, 833 or 592 r
Thanks
Brad

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Re: [AMRadio] PA set up using ant analyzer

2006-06-04 Thread Mike Dorworth, K4XM

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From: uvcm inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 8:13 PM
Subject: [AMRadio] PA set up using ant analyzer


 Does anyone know what value resistor between the plate of and ground for a
 833 and a 892r, so I can set up the tank using an antenna analyzer like a
 mfj 369?

The resistor value is determined (exactly) from the platevoltage divided by
2 times the plate current.. About 5000 ohms or so.