Re: [AMRadio] Question about ferrite rods

2006-06-16 Thread Bob Bruhns
Hi Conor,

A ferrite rod antenna should be perpendicular to
the oncoming signal wavefront, and also
perpendicular to its electrical field (or parallel
to its magnetic field).  Because you would
ordinarily be close to the ground with a loopstick
radio, signals will tend to be vertically
polarized at the loopstick - so for most signals
the ferrite rod would be horizontal, and
perpendicular to the incoming signal.

If you null a signal by rotating the rod to
point toward the signal, you may find that the
best null is obtained with the rod tilted slightly
upward toward the transmitter.  This is because
the signal wavefront tilts slightly toward the
earth.

Loops and loopsticks can be used to null
interfering stations to hear weaker signnals on or
close to the strong station's frequency.  Skywave
peaks and nulls are less precise than groundwave -
nulls and peaks vary as skywave paths vary and
fade, especially at shorter wavelengths, I think.
But with groundwave, the behavior of a loopstick
is fairly precise.

There is something about paramagnetic materials
that attracts magnetic flux and concentrates it in
the material, and such magnetic material will also
increases the inductance of windings around it, so
the coils do not have to be as large as they would
be in air.  This is why ferrite loopsticks are
used - a very small antenna can be effective.
Ferrite is useful up to the megahertz range, and
some ferrites are even useful to UHF and beyond.

   Bacon, WA3WDR



Re: [AMRadio] Question about ferrite rods

2006-06-16 Thread Conor Farrell

Excellent! Thanks for all the info guys!


Re: [AMRadio] Question about ferrite rods

2006-06-16 Thread doxemf



-Original Message-
From: Bob Bruhns [EMAIL PROTECTED]

snip Ferrite is useful up to the megahertz range, and
some ferrites are even useful to UHF and beyond.

 My old Tandberg portable radio uses the ferrite up to 5 mhz then the 
telescoping vert. above that.
  Having a directional antenna for 75  mtrs is real nice unless there's 
a noise source in the same direction as the desired signal and for 
directionally different QSOs the radio must be turned to match up with 
the incoming direction. IE, 90 degrees to copy Ohio and MD in 
round-table.
I have often thought that a large remotely rotatable ferrite based loop 
on the roof or attic would be real nice for those difficult times.


_Bill KB3DKS/1
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Re: [AMRadio] Question about ferrite rods

2006-06-16 Thread W7QHO

In a message dated 6/16/06 11:07:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I have often thought that a large remotely rotatable ferrite based loop
 on the roof or attic would be real nice for those difficult times.
 
Bill,

Give a small tunable loop a try.

Dennis D. W7QHO
Glendale, CA