[amsat-bb] Re: Have a TS-2000 and wonder if the Flex or a Icom-9100 , mm

2010-02-22 Thread MM
My concerns about the Icom IC-9100 are as follows:

When you add HF to a satellite radio you reduce the performance of the 
satellite bands.  What we want for Satellite, EME and DX Terrestrial is a very 
high performance VHF/UHF receiver, with excellent sensitivity and selectivity.  
We do not need or want HF in a VHF/UHF DX radio. A good satellite radio should 
not contain HF.

IC-9100 Receiver is only a Double Conversion, (better than the 910 which is a 
single conversion)

IC-9100 TX power output is too high for 2-meter and 70cm for satellite work.  
2-meters 100 watts,  70cm 75 watts.

Let me explain:  
For serious Terrestrial DX and EME you need to run more than 100 watts.  The 
output level of the 9100 is too high to match most solid-state and tube 
amplifiers.  
Most VHF/UHF amps are designed for 25 or 50 watts maximum input.  Since the 
IC-9100 puts out 100 watts you will eventually forget to set you TX power level 
and you will destroy your external amplifier.

The manufactures of Transceivers and Amplifies need to agree upon a set of 
standard power level so the amplifiers and transceiver can be properly matched 
without worrying about destroying the amplifiers.

Suggested standards for VHF/UHF bases stations:
 6 Meters 50 watts
 2 Meters 25 watts
 70 cm  25 watts
 900 mc 10 watts
 1.2 gig10 watts

External Preamps:  
Again for serious DX and satellite work, most use very high quality external 
pre-amps.  The Icom IC-910 required Icom externals pre-amps to compensate for 
the Single conversion receiver.  The Icom preamps did work, however there 
specifications (Gain 15 dB 2-meters) were not as good as other external third 
party pre-amplifiers (20-25 db 2-Meters), and they were also limited to 100 
watts of RF.  It is not known if the Ic-9100 will also required similar Icom 
external Preamps.

Dated Design:
The design of the IC-910 was dated when it went into production.  The IC-9100 
has built-in DSP and a few more bands, however it is still out of date for what 
the EME/Satellite/DX community needs for this century.

IC-9100 Potential Good features:
Built in IF-DSP (32 big and 24bid ADC)


What do we want for this century for Terrestrial DX, EME and Satellite:

Dedicated TX and RX for VHF and UHF.
Digital filters (similar to a Ic-756 pro III and newer radios)
Band Scope.
TX power to match external amplifiers.
RX Quad conversion receiver.
Full USB computer control (Not RS-232, Not TTL, Interface must include memory 
channels with the Repeater off-set bit, which is usually omitted by Icom)
Satellite mode knob 100% Identical to the Satellite mode knob on the Yaesu 736R.

My ideal rig would look like the Icom IC-756 Pro III.
It would not contain any HF.
The whole RX and TX system including digital filters would be designed just for 
the following bands:

6 Meters 50 watts
 2 Meters 25 watts
70 cm   25 watts
900 mc  10 watts
1.2 gig 10 watts

Additional RX/TX filters for satellite reception.

It would also have the Satellite Mode switch of the Yaesu 736R, placed in a 
similar location on the Rig.
Multiple Line level audio outputs for computer interfacing to support digital 
modes such as JT65 and other modes.

Just my wish list.

wf1f Miles


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 From: Jack KZ4USA video...@verizon.net
 Subject: [amsat-bb] Have a TS-2000 and wonder if the Flex or a Icom-9100 
 would be the next best step for satellite work.
 To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
 Date: Sunday, February 21, 2010, 11:36 PM
 
 Jack 
 KZ4USA
 Bradenton, Florida
 
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[amsat-bb] Re: Have a TS-2000 and wonder if the Flex or a Icom-9100 , mm

2010-02-22 Thread Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
You're unlikely to get 900Mc/S on a Japanese radio as most of the world doesn't 
have that allocation.

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[amsat-bb] AO-51 20Feb2010 2259z Recording

2010-02-22 Thread John Papay
A recording of the AO-51 pass on 20Feb2010 at 2259z is on my
webserver:

  http://www.papays.com/AO-51_20Feb2010_225938z.mp3

This was a very busy pass with ND9M/p in EL07/EL08 and WD9EWK/p in DM22
at the Yuma Hamfest.  Many of you are not full duplex and don't know what you
sound like on the bird so here's your chance to hear yourself.

There are over 30 different callsigns on this recording including:

N5AFV, KD4N0Q, WA4HFN, N8RO, WA5KBH, KP4WK, KF4OTG, N5UXT, KB0RZD,
ND9M/P, K4YYL, K7NN, KB0RZE, KB8ZGL, N1XED, KJ4PSU, VA3BL, N8MH,
?4NDA/HH, KD8CAO, N2BX, WD9EWK/P KZ4WAT, KB9AVO, KD0HKR, WB1AAT,
N0JE, ?OF, ?QYH, VE7CNA, KE7DOV. K8YSE

KE7DOV appeared at the end of the pass operating portable from CN76 a rare
coastal grid.

Although there was a lot of instances of several stations 
transmitting at the same time, overall the number of successful qso's 
was good.  It is rare when more than 30 stations are heard on a 
single pass of AO-51.  It was a 32 degree elevation, 13 minute 
horizon to horizon pass for me.

AO-51 is a great bird.  Those who had a hand in designing and 
building this satellite can be very proud of their accomplishment.

73,
John K8YSE EN91dh

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[amsat-bb] AO-51 V/S

2010-02-22 Thread graham mcphee
Could I have an indication when AO-51 will change to V/S mode please
Graham 
VK2AYE
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[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 V/S

2010-02-22 Thread Mark L. Hammond
Hello Graham,

If all goes as planned (for now), AO-51 should be changed into mode
V/S around 21:45utc today, 22 Feb 2010.

Thanks--sorry for the delay.

73,

Mark N8MH

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 Could I have an indication when AO-51 will change to V/S mode please
 Graham
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[amsat-bb] Need help for RARSFest in Raleigh, NC Sat. April 3

2010-02-22 Thread Mark L. Hammond
Hello All,

Yes, it will be held on Easter weekend...but the event is on a Saturday :)

I will be hosting an AMSAT table at the RARSFest in Raleigh, NC on
April 3.   Would really appreciate some help.  Demonstrations are
possible, but this depends on how much help you all provide.  It's a
nice hamfest, and the RARS club is always very hospitable to an AMSAT
table and workers. http://rars.org/hamfest/

If you can commit to helping me on April 3, please contact me directly off-list

n8mh  AT  amsat   dotorg

Thanks!

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[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 V/S

2010-02-22 Thread Andrew Glasbrenner
In about 30 minutes, 2145z.

73, Drew KO4MA


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Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO-51 V/S

Could I have an indication when AO-51 will change to V/S mode please
Graham 
VK2AYE
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[amsat-bb] missed you

2010-02-22 Thread Gkcarr
I missed you as I came down with an upper resiratyory infection. Real bad 
cough, fever, aches etc. And wore out.
tnx fer thinking of me.
73
George
WA5KBH



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[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 V/S

2010-02-22 Thread Andrew Glasbrenner
We are in mode V/S now. I'm slightly concerned we may have hit the low 
voltage trip during the last pass while I was trying to get some 
telemetry, so reports of S reception would be appreciated.

73, Drew KO4MA
AMSAT-NA VP Ops
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[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 V/S

2010-02-22 Thread Bob- W7LRD


Last pass signals were s9 + 20 max on a three foot dish/3731aa downconverter 

73 Bob W7LRD 

CN87 

Seattle 
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Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org 
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 3:41:14 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 V/S 

We are in mode V/S now. I'm slightly concerned we may have hit the low 
voltage trip during the last pass while I was trying to get some 
telemetry, so reports of S reception would be appreciated. 

73, Drew KO4MA 
AMSAT-NA VP Ops 
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[amsat-bb] HO-68 and FO-29 common uplink

2010-02-22 Thread Andrew Glasbrenner
There was a fair amount of confusion as the two satellites passed each 
other over the US tonight. It might be good practice to mention which 
satellite you are listening to while calling CQ, etc.

73, Drew KO4MA
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[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 20Feb2010 2259z Recording

2010-02-22 Thread John Papay
As some of you discovered, the link to the recording
was not working.  Sorry for the inconvenience.  It should
work properly now.

73,
John K8YSE

At 10:20 AM 2/22/2010, Angelo Glorioso wrote:
Link is bad!


- Original Message - From: John Papay j...@papays.com
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:50 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 20Feb2010 2259z Recording


A recording of the AO-51 pass on 20Feb2010 at 2259z is on my
webserver:

  http://www.papays.com/AO-51_20Feb2010_225938z.mp3

This was a very busy pass with ND9M/p in EL07/EL08 and WD9EWK/p in DM22
at the Yuma Hamfest.  Many of you are not full duplex and don't know what you
sound like on the bird so here's your chance to hear yourself.

There are over 30 different callsigns on this recording including:

N5AFV, KD4N0Q, WA4HFN, N8RO, WA5KBH, KP4WK, KF4OTG, N5UXT, KB0RZD,
ND9M/P, K4YYL, K7NN, KB0RZE, KB8ZGL, N1XED, KJ4PSU, VA3BL, N8MH,
?4NDA/HH, KD8CAO, N2BX, WD9EWK/P KZ4WAT, KB9AVO, KD0HKR, WB1AAT,
N0JE, ?OF, ?QYH, VE7CNA, KE7DOV. K8YSE

KE7DOV appeared at the end of the pass operating portable from CN76 a rare
coastal grid.

Although there was a lot of instances of several stations
transmitting at the same time, overall the number of successful qso's
was good.  It is rare when more than 30 stations are heard on a
single pass of AO-51.  It was a 32 degree elevation, 13 minute
horizon to horizon pass for me.

AO-51 is a great bird.  Those who had a hand in designing and
building this satellite can be very proud of their accomplishment.

73,
John K8YSE EN91dh

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[amsat-bb] Re: HO-68 and FO-29 common uplink

2010-02-22 Thread Greg D.

Hmmm...  Interesting.  That means that we all need to check both satellites 
before using either one, to be sure the orbits and modes are compatible, and 
avoid the passes that aren't (no matter how tempting).  Dual-bird SSB/CW ops 
may be confusing, but accidentally running high power FM into FO-29 could be 
far worse.  That bird is too delicate and precious to abuse.

Greg  KO6TH


 Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:23:49 -0500
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 To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
 Subject: [amsat-bb]  HO-68 and FO-29 common uplink
 
 There was a fair amount of confusion as the two satellites passed each 
 other over the US tonight. It might be good practice to mention which 
 satellite you are listening to while calling CQ, etc.
 
 73, Drew KO4MA
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[amsat-bb] AMSAT at Charlotte NC hamfest?

2010-02-22 Thread Philip Jenkins
Are there any plans for an AMSAT booth/table at the Charlotte hamfest, March
13-14?

Philip N4HF
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[amsat-bb] Re: HO-68 and FO-29 common uplink

2010-02-22 Thread Andrew Glasbrenner
Greg D. wrote:
   Dual-bird SSB/CW ops may be confusing, but accidentally running high 
 power FM into FO-29 could be far worse.  
The FM uplink for 68 is outside of the uplink passband for 29, so it 
just makes for confusing SSB/CW ops.

Drew
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[amsat-bb] Re: HO-68 and FO-29 common uplink

2010-02-22 Thread Greg D.

Oh, that's right...  Good planning!

Never Mind...

Greg  KO6TH


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Greg D. wrote:

   
Dual-bird SSB/CW ops may be confusing, but accidentally running high
power FM into FO-29 could be far worse.  
The FM uplink for 68 is outside of the uplink passband for 29, so it
just makes for confusing SSB/CW ops.



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[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 20Feb2010 2259z Recording

2010-02-22 Thread K8KFJ
In a message dated 2/22/2010 10:50:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
j...@papays.com writes:
 
 There are  over 30 different callsigns on this recording
 
The callsign I didn't see listed John sounded like that of a young op  
attempting to make a sat contact.  The callsign sounded something like  KJ4NVA 
or KJ4MGA.  I sure would have liked to have seen him or her make  a sat 
contact.  Hopefully he or she will be back for another try and  not be QRMed.
 
- - - Many thanks for posting the excellent audio recording John.   Much 
appreciated.
 
73, Gary  -K8KFJ-
Sat VUCC #125 
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[amsat-bb] TekSharp dish ants?

2010-02-22 Thread Scott Townley
Back again after a short absence...

Wanting to get an L/S system going again.  Ideally using a mesh dish like 
the 1.2m or 1.8m that TekSharp shows on their webpage...but it would appear 
that they are no longer in existence.
Any suggestions or leads?  I'm thinking, I'd go dish for S because of RX 
noise, so might as well throw in L while I'm at it.  Especially since there 
don't appear to be any L crossed yagis out there.



Scott Townley NX7U
Gilbert, AZ  DM43di
mailto:n...@cox.net
http://members.cox.net/nx7u 

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[amsat-bb] Cal Poly Pomona

2010-02-22 Thread Clint Bradford
I gave an abbreviated presentation to the newly-resurrected Cal Poly Pomona ham 
club this afternoon. Abbreviated because we just had an hour, and a great 
pass of SO-50 right over us (85 degrees!).

Glen Shiery, AF6V, is doing great work exposing the kids to different facets of 
amateur radio. They have a dedicated room for their shack, and it will probably 
be up and running again by the Summer.

It felt great speaking to a younger crowd. We need more youth in this 
magnificent hobby!

Clint Bradford, K6LCS
http://www.work-sat.com
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