[amsat-bb] Re: ISS HRD

2011-06-16 Thread STeve Andre'
On 06/16/11 02:38, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 23:05 -0700, Kevin Deane wrote:
>> So I have confirmed HRD is like 23 minutes ahead of Amsat, I got a
>> good Digi Qso on the last pass... I just dont see why Amsat shows good
>> info but not on there keps download.
> Because the amsat site is an unusable pile of crap, with various bits
> and pieces that don't entirely talk to each other.
>
> The keps download and the pass predictions should pull their information
> from the same source.  This would be incredibly easy to script.
> However, it appears that the downloadable keps are only updated when
> someone can be bothered to get off their hindmost and upload a text file
> containing them.
>
> Several people (including) have offered to fix or rewrite the amsat.org
> site, even for free.  Instead they're all too busy with their HEO
> cargo-cult.
>
> Gordon MM0YEQ

Offer again, in public?  Like, here?

--STeve Andre'
wb8wsf  en72

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[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT-BDA web site back up

2011-06-16 Thread pwillmott
Hi Domenico,

I remember those days too, nearly killed me :^)

I think with P3E we will need to find a youngster to build 
an automated telemetry website. AO-40 was half manual and 
half automated.

73 Paul, VP9MU

On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 04:29:06 +0200
  "i8cvs"  wrote:
> Hi Paul, VP9MU
> 
> I remember with nostalgia when I sent to you everyday a 
>zipped file of
> the AO40 telemetry to be added in the AO40 TLM archive.
> 
> I hope in the future to do the same job for the 
>telemetry of P3E !
> 
> Congrats to the AMSAT-BDA web site back up again.
> 
> 73" de
> 
> i8CVS Domenico
> 
> - Original Message -
>From: "Paul Willmott" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:41 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BDA web site back up
> 
> 
>> Hello,
>>
>> After a gap of 13 years the AMSAT-BDA (Bermuda) web site 
>>is back up.
>>
>> The main function of the site is hosting the General 
>>Astrodynamics
> Library.
>>
>> It will however provide the host for new stuff, old and 
>>new!
>>
>> Regards
>> Paul, VP9MU
>>
>> http://www.amsat-bda.org
>>
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS HRD

2011-06-16 Thread Alan P. Biddle
Kevin,

The AMSAT Keps distribution service dates back to the dark ages when the
Internet as we know it did not exist.  Many got their info from the packet
system since e-mail was fairly hard, and expensive, to come by.  Also, all
satellites were in a high enough orbits, and did not maneuver, that their
Keps changed very slowly.  Usually the Keps were good for a month or more,
with the difference being only a few seconds when you updated.  AMSAT.ALL is
updated about once a week, no matter how many times you download it.  For
most satellites, that was, and is, more than enough.  They do have the
advantage that they use only the common satellite names, and at times in the
past have quietly fixed some cases where Space Track has incorrectly paired
object numbers with common names.  They also include Keps for satellites
which for some reason do not appear from Space Track, but only on their own
web sites.

For the ISS, and the Shuttle for one more flight, your best source for data
is CelesTrak which does Keps, and only Keps, or Space Track.  All the major
tracking programs will do this for you, though you will need to insure they
are using the correct files.  It is a common problem, often discussed here,
and relatively simply addressed.  For one old program I use for special
purposes, I just cut and paste the new data if necessary.  

The Keps posted there are not really an integral part of the AMSAT web site,
but just a place where the data is provided for convenience.  I hope a bit
of historical perspective, and understanding what is going on behind the
scenes, helps.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA
 





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Behalf Of Kevin Deane
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 1:06 AM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS HRD


 
So I have confirmed HRD is like 23 minutes ahead of Amsat, I got a good Digi
Qso on the last pass... I just dont see why Amsat shows good info but not on
there keps download.
 
Probly will get fixed soon, just makin sure HRD users were on the same
page...
 
Kevin
KF7MYK
  
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS HRD

2011-06-16 Thread Nigel A. Gunn
Why do you expect Amsat to provide you with keps?
Do as most of us do and get them yourself directly from 
www.space-track.org  the people that generate them originally.

On 16/06/11 07:05, Kevin Deane wrote:
>
> So I have confirmed HRD is like 23 minutes ahead of Amsat, I got a good Digi 
> Qso on the last pass... I just dont see why Amsat shows good info but not on 
> there keps download.
>
> Probly will get fixed soon, just makin sure HRD users were on the same page...
>
> Kevin
> KF7MYK
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[amsat-bb] ISS keps

2011-06-16 Thread Nigel A. Gunn
This is this mornings:

ISS (ZARYA)
1 25544U 98067A   11166.32006815  .00079535  0-0  70033-3 0  5373
2 25544 051.6404 170.2103 0012163 235.9591 252.3222 15.67954468720612


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[amsat-bb] Re: New AMSAT-UK Website

2011-06-16 Thread Clint Bradford
Great work on the new Web site. That's a LOT of work ...

And great job on the June, 2011 issue of your OSCAR NEWS magazine - another 
"keeper!"

Clint Bradford, K6LCS

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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS HRD

2011-06-16 Thread i8cvs
- Original Message -
From: "Nigel A. Gunn" 
To: "Kevin Deane" 
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:42 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS HRD

> Why do you expect Amsat to provide you with keps?
> Do as most of us do and get them yourself directly from
> www.space-track.org  the people that generate them originally.
>
> On 16/06/11 07:05, Kevin Deane wrote:
> >
> > So I have confirmed HRD is like 23 minutes ahead of Amsat, I got a good
Digi Qso on the last pass... I just dont see why Amsat shows good info but
not on there keps download.
> >
> > Probly will get fixed soon, just makin sure HRD users were on the same
page...
> >
> > Kevin
> > KF7MYK
> >

Hi Kevin, KF7MYK

Traditionally AMSAT provided Equator Crossing  to the users since 40
years ago when they were sent on paper by letters to all AMSAT members.

Actually AMSAT via WA5QGD send keps by email to the users every week
from Fort Worth ,TX and in my opinion it is a nice and useful service.

73" de

i8CVS Domenico

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[amsat-bb] Re: Update on FalconSat-3

2011-06-16 Thread PE0SAT
On Wed, June 15, 2011 18:01, Chris Bloy wrote:

> Hi All,

Hi Chris,

> I have received some news regarding FalconSat-3 and the amateur payload, I
> have posted it on my website http://wordpress.projectoscar.co.uk/?p=720
> and hopefully we will get use of it soon! The amateur payload can run up
> to 4w's of power so could easily be used digital mobile, no frequency has
> been release as yet, but I have asked if it could be made available!

Thanks for sharing this information. After I had read this information,
I started looking for additional information regarding the amateur payload
but I am unable to find anything.

One thing I did find, it is not part of the nasabare.txt keplers but from
the engineering group.

Can somebody give some extra information regarding the amateur payload?

> Chris - M0DQO


73 Jan - PE0SAT




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[amsat-bb] Books on the ISS

2011-06-16 Thread Alexander Sack
Hello:

I am interesting in reading about the history of the ISS and the only
book I can find at my local college library is:

Creating the International Space Station
by David M. Harland and John E. Catchpole

Anyone read this one?  Good, bad, ugly?

Any other recommendations?

73

-aps (KC2ZSX)
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[amsat-bb] Re: Pre-amps with SWR meter

2011-06-16 Thread k6yk
Hi All, 
This is a good thing to consider whether it's for preamps or anything
else such as a tower-mounted remote co-ax switch.   I had one meter, 
think it was an MFJ-815, that did not have a DC path through it. 
My co-ax switch didn't work anymore !  Had to peddle the meter and
put in another, then everything was OK again. 

73,
John, K6YK

 
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 05:06:01 +0100 "Nigel A. Gunn" 
writes:
> Usually but remember that many SWR meters introduce more loss than 
> they 
> are trying to measure so you might be better off removing it.
> 
> On 15/06/11 23:22, wolth...@msu.edu wrote:
> > Installing my new UHF/VHF SSB preamps tonight.  I have FT-847 to 
> send 12VDC to them.  I currently have an SWR meter between the 847 
> and the preamps.  Can I feed power through the SWR meter safely?  
> The SWR meter is an SX-1000 by Diamond.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike
> > kb8zgl
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[amsat-bb] Re: Books on the ISS

2011-06-16 Thread i8cvs
Hi Alex, KC2ZSX

Put on Google " ISS History " and you will get a lot of information

73" de

i8CVS Domenico

- Original Message -
From: "Alexander Sack" 
To: "amsat-bb" 
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 6:51 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Books on the ISS


> Hello:
>
> I am interesting in reading about the history of the ISS and the only
> book I can find at my local college library is:
>
> Creating the International Space Station
> by David M. Harland and John E. Catchpole
>
> Anyone read this one?  Good, bad, ugly?
>
> Any other recommendations?
>
> 73
>
> -aps (KC2ZSX)
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS HRD

2011-06-16 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 02:42 -0400, STeve Andre' wrote:

> > Several people (including) have offered to fix or rewrite the amsat.org
> > site, even for free.  Instead they're all too busy with their HEO
> > cargo-cult.
> >
> > Gordon MM0YEQ
> 
> Offer again, in public?  Like, here?
> 
> --STeve Andre'
> wb8wsf  en72

Having done so and been rebuffed, I'm not inclined to do so again - even
if I had the time to do so.  Any time I spend on computery amateur radio
stuff is given over to writing some APRS software for Linux, an area
which is sadly lacking (although Windows isn't much better).

Gordon MM0YEQ

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[amsat-bb] Re: History of the ISS

2011-06-16 Thread Clint Bradford
Please visit the NASA site ...

http://www.nasa.gov

... as well as the Russian Space Federation site ...

http://www.federalspace.ru/main.php?lang=en

... as well as any other country's site whose space program is involved! PLENTY 
of good material on the ISS is out there!


Clint Bradford, K6LCS
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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS HRD

2011-06-16 Thread Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF

From HRD Satellite Tracking, click Satellite
From the window that opens, click the Kepler Data tab
From it's gidgets, click Add File
From the box that pops up, select your elements file.
Tick the Enable box for that file and untick all others.
Click Download Now.

It should update your definitions from the kepler file.

Attached is my current file.


On 16-Jun-11 21:27, Kevin Deane wrote:


I was saying I dont know how to stick them in HRD it does it by itself and when 
I tried the celestrack or whatever it would not even run, so I dont know what 
to do.

Kevin
KF7MYK





Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:42:33 +0100
From: ni...@ngunn.net
To: summit...@live.com
CC: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS HRD

Why do you expect Amsat to provide you with keps?
Do as most of us do and get them yourself directly from
www.space-track.org the people that generate them originally.

On 16/06/11 07:05, Kevin Deane wrote:


So I have confirmed HRD is like 23 minutes ahead of Amsat, I got a good Digi 
Qso on the last pass... I just dont see why Amsat shows good info but not on 
there keps download.

Probly will get fixed soon, just makin sure HRD users were on the same page...

Kevin
KF7MYK

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825 5032
Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF 9H3GN),  e-mail ni...@ngunn.net   www 
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International #385,
   Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691,  AMSAT-UK 0182, MKARS,  ALC, 
GCARES, XWARN, EAA382.

OSCAR 3
1 01293U 65016F   11166.71158909  .0256  0-0  19206-3 0  1084
2 01293 070.0703 036.7121 0019773 275.5038 084.3814 14.04909358362126
OSCAR 5
1 04321U 70008B   11166.13721682 -.0031  0-0  1-3 0  4871
2 04321 102.0743 199.6997 0027762 042.4125 317.9084 12.52162687891876
OSCAR 6
1 06236U 72082B   11166.51719807 -.0027  0-0  1-3 0  4785
2 06236 101.4106 160.5726 0003604 266.3670 093.6991 12.53085979768638
OSCAR 7
1 07530U 74089B   11166.55995472 -.0027 +0-0 +1-3 0 01068
2 07530 101.3915 173.1652 0011643 283.8202 076.1572 12.53582686673989
OSCAR 8
1 10703U 78026B   11166.54937371 -.0199  0-0 -10891-3 0  1892
2 10703 098.7373 191.2810 0006096 310.5077 049.5562 13.98890543697852
OSCAR 10
1 14129U 83058B   11165.73892452 -.0076  0-0  1-3 0  8712
2 14129 027.1184 031.4875 6025067 070.7897 342.7260 02.05868968182630
OSCAR 11 (UoSAT 2)
1 14781U 84021B   11166.71918911  .0180  0-0  30854-4 0  5751
2 14781 098.0064 223.4352 0009665 137.5923 222.6035 14.79983879465579
OSCAR 24
1 15936U 85066B   11166.20211528  .0062  0-0  1-3 0  3047
2 15936 090.0648 023.7880 0168155 257.0449 101.1868 13.35207547259972
JAS 1 (FUJI 1)
1 16909U 86061B   11166.18310478 -.0083  0-0  1-3 0  9067
2 16909 050.0154 083.8505 0010696 258.3105 101.6529 12.44455431129624
OSCAR 23
1 19070U 88033A   11166.92620406 +.0059 +0-0 +1-3 0 01061
2 19070 090.2754 203.6995 0191098 134.9461 226.7341 13.27154179120497
OSCAR 25
1 19419U 88074A   11166.94562961 +.0066 +0-0 +1-3 0 00951
2 19419 089.9412 026.2991 0094762 219.2554 140.1696 13.41860125116561
OSCAR 14 (UOSAT 3)
1 20437U 90005B   11166.83394918 +.0004 +0-0 +17605-4 0 05386
2 20437 098.4380 110.7823 0010797 165.3520 194.7972 14.31625593117308
OSCAR 15 (UOSAT 4)
1 20438U 90005C   11166.56334396 -.0003  0-0  15374-4 0   309
2 20438 098.4871 106.8714 0009335 203.2762 156.7999 14.30507021116608
OSCAR 16 (PACSAT)
1 20439U 90005D   11166.90401138 +.0066 +0-0 +40248-4 0 02091
2 20439 098.3844 116.5646 0010903 162.6148 197.5407 14.31924632117430
OSCAR 17 (DOVE)
1 20440U 90005E   11166.40008099  .0091  0-0  49322-4 0  9342
2 20440 098.3590 119.0065 0011041 156.5584 203.6102 14.32235994117521
OSCAR 18 (WEBERSAT)
1 20441U 90005F   11166.52441495  .0043  0-0  31584-4 0  4340
2 20441 098.3665 118.1499 0011610 161.5402 198.6202 14.31990866117454
OSCAR 19 (LUSAT)
1 20442U 90005G   11166.56450695  .0027  0-0  25688-4 0  1243
2 20442 098.3464 120.5949 0012051 157.4781 202.6932 14.32149897117562
JAS 1B (FUJI 2)
1 20480U 90013C   11166.46931801  .0032  0-0  15191-3 0  8077
2 20480 099.0338 319.9321 0540186 320.5004 035.7864 12.83369794   324
INFORMATOR 1
1 21087U 91006A   11166.55198793  .0003  0-0 -12482-4 0  9249
2 21087 082.9420 226.4784 0036746 053.5598 306.8937 13.75073184 22514
OSCAR 22 (UoSAT 5)
1 21575U 91050B   11166.93807067 +.0031 +0-0 +24076-4 0 01764
2 21575 098.5405 119.6838 0007622 005.2195 354.9068 14.39798030045567
KITSAT B
1 22825U 93061C   11

[amsat-bb] ISS

2011-06-16 Thread Kevin Deane








 
>Open HRD sat tracker, go to the kepler data tab, only use the celestrak 
>amateur.txt- only have this one checked and it should >work if you have a 
>recent download from celestrak.  You may have to restart the program so it can 
>get the names and norad >numbers fixed

This looks like it works, thanks to Jeremy. A simple solution, a simple 
response, perfect. I did like everyones sarcasim and opinions as well, but I 
was really just looking to get HRD to do its thing all by itself.
 
Thanks again Jeremy I know I am not the smartest kid on the block but I do know 
what love is Jenny. (Forest Gump, get it?) Lame I know.

Kevin
KF7MYK
 
  
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[amsat-bb] Re: Update on FalconSat-3

2011-06-16 Thread Trevor .
I could only find whats on the IARU site 2m up 70cm down data links at 9k6 38k4 
and 76k8
http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=21 

73 Trevor M5AKA

--- On Thu, 16/6/11, PE0SAT  wrote:

> From: PE0SAT 
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Update on FalconSat-3
> To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Date: Thursday, 16 June, 2011, 17:43
> On Wed, June 15, 2011 18:01, Chris
> Bloy wrote:
> 
> > Hi All,
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> > I have received some news regarding FalconSat-3 and
> the amateur payload, I
> > have posted it on my website http://wordpress.projectoscar.co.uk/?p=720
> > and hopefully we will get use of it soon! The amateur
> payload can run up
> > to 4w's of power so could easily be used digital
> mobile, no frequency has
> > been release as yet, but I have asked if it could be
> made available!
> 
> Thanks for sharing this information. After I had read this
> information,
> I started looking for additional information regarding the
> amateur payload
> but I am unable to find anything.
> 
> One thing I did find, it is not part of the nasabare.txt
> keplers but from
> the engineering group.
> 
> Can somebody give some extra information regarding the
> amateur payload?
> 
> > Chris - M0DQO
> 
> 
> 73 Jan - PE0SAT


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[amsat-bb] Re: Better work that HF DX while you can!

2011-06-16 Thread John Becker
Did Al Gore have anything to do with this?



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[amsat-bb] Re: ISS

2011-06-16 Thread Jeremy Bomkamp
No problem Kevin.  I dont rely on HRD sat tracker much but after seeing your 
message on the board I did some investigating to see what the problem actually 
was.  My HRD sat tracking was lagging like yours for the ISS, I closed it and 
tried running as administrator and uploading keps and nothing changed.  By 
chance I changed my keps on satpc32 from celestrak to amsat and the ISS was 
predicted to be the same position as HRD.  That is how I came across the remedy 
for HRD, but when I eliminated the amsat site for keps downloads, all it showed 
was the moon no matter what sat I selected, so I shut down sat tracker and 
restarted and everything worked like it should.  And before Alan asks again, my 
callsign is AB9RU, and thanks again Alan for your satpc32 doppler file, and 
Kevin good luck hunting packet QSO's on the ISS digi
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[amsat-bb] Keps

2011-06-16 Thread CT2IWW Paulo Teixeira
Hello everyone,

Is there a program or script that could automate the creation of a custom
keplerian element list that includes satelites that i´m only interested in,
from data from either either spacetrack or celestrack?
My idea is to create something similar to the list that AMSAT publishes but
more specific to my needs, meaning that there are some sats in there that I
don´t care about.

I tried the TLEretriever but no cigar there, at least for the purpose in
sight.

73´s
Paulo CT2IWW
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[amsat-bb] Re: Keps

2011-06-16 Thread Jim Wright
You should be able to take the AMSAT keps and delete the lines for the 
birds you do not want, save the result with the same name.  Then reload 
that into your program and go.
Good luck



On 6/16/2011 4:14 PM, CT2IWW Paulo Teixeira wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> Is there a program or script that could automate the creation of a custom
> keplerian element list that includes satelites that i´m only interested in,
> from data from either either spacetrack or celestrack?
> My idea is to create something similar to the list that AMSAT publishes but
> more specific to my needs, meaning that there are some sats in there that I
> don´t care about.
>
> I tried the TLEretriever but no cigar there, at least for the purpose in
> sight.
>
> 73´s
> Paulo CT2IWW
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[amsat-bb] Re: Keps

2011-06-16 Thread George Henry
I used to use a program called NASAWASH.  You set up a "mysats" file that 
specifies which birds you are interested in, and then you can set up a batch 
file that will automatically parse whatever input file you specify (like 
nasa.all) and output the filtered results to the filename and location that 
you specified.

Looks like it's still available in the AMSAT software archive at 
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/software/PC/util/nasawash.zip



George, KA3HSW


- Original Message - 
From: "CT2IWW Paulo Teixeira" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 3:14 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Keps


Hello everyone,

Is there a program or script that could automate the creation of a custom
keplerian element list that includes satelites that i´m only interested in,
from data from either either spacetrack or celestrack?
My idea is to create something similar to the list that AMSAT publishes but
more specific to my needs, meaning that there are some sats in there that I
don´t care about.

I tried the TLEretriever but no cigar there, at least for the purpose in
sight.

73´s
Paulo CT2IWW
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