[amsat-bb] 9600baud digital satellites

2012-03-13 Thread David Hopkins

Gentlemen,
Most of the current cube sats and those to follow in the future all 
use data communications for transmitting telementry back to earth.


In order to receive this data a ground station requires a TNC of some 
sort that can work up to 9600 baud.


To those of you who are already using this type of equipment, how are 
you doing i,t what equipment are you using?


David

David G. Hopkins (VK4ZF)
CAPALABA QLD
AUSTRALIA
27.32.38S 153.12.03E
QG62OL
Skype :- davhop 


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[amsat-bb] Need some ears to listen for VO-52, Northern EU, Canada, USA...

2012-03-13 Thread William Leijenaar
Hi AMSATs,

I received the news that VO-52 will be switched on in a couple of hours from 
now, at 13:50UTC, (03-March-2012)
Unfortunately the satellite will not pass over central Europe, and I am not 
able to check the status the first two orbits.

I am looking for hams in Russia, Northern Europe, Canada, USA, or others that 
can listen for VO-52 right after it is turned on.

! ! !  Please don't use high uplink powers !!! (We don't want it to rise 
temperature very fast just after cold switch on) ! ! !


Please listen for the CW beacon at 145.860, which is a good reference.
(Audio records and reports are very welcome at ISRO and myself)


73 de PE1RAH,
William Leijenaar
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[amsat-bb] Re: Need some ears to listen for VO-52, Northern EU, Canada, USA...

2012-03-13 Thread William Leijenaar
Hi AMSATs,

There was a slip on my fingers. 
The date should be 13-March-2012.

(Thanks to 9A2EY, Zeljko who noticed my mistake)

73 de PE1RAH,
William Leijenaar


Hi AMSATs,


I received the news that VO-52 will be switched on in a couple of hours from 
now, at 13:50UTC, (03-March-2012)
Unfortunately the satellite will not pass over central Europe, and I am not 
able to check the status the first two orbits.


I am looking for hams in Russia, Northern Europe, Canada, USA, or others that 
can listen for VO-52 right after it is turned on.


! ! !  Please don't use high uplink powers !!! (We don't want it to rise 
temperature very fast just after cold switch on) ! ! !



Please listen for the CW beacon at 145.860, which is a good reference.
(Audio records and reports are very welcome at ISRO and myself)



73 de PE1RAH,
William Leijenaar
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[amsat-bb] satpc32 help

2012-03-13 Thread Nick Pugh
I updated the keps and now when I open satpc32 I get a error message that
keep repeating and the only way to abort the error message is to reboot.
Removing the keep file does not fix the problem.  Help??

 

Thank

 

nick 

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[amsat-bb] VO-52 PE1RAH Trxp Switching 'ON'

2012-03-13 Thread Mani VU2WMY

Dear VO-52 (HAMSAT) users,

Subsequent to the clearance by the 'Expert committee' the Transponder  
# 2 (The Dutch Transponder made by William Leijenaar PE1RAH) on board  
HAMSAT V0-52 would be switched 'ON' at 13:42 UT on 13.03.2012 during  
orbit # 37080 over India.


A 'Critical Comparative Signal Report' between the Indian and Dutch
transponder would be of great help for further evaluations and
necessary actions for the maintenance the transponder in good and
healthy condition for better services and also, the inputs would be
very valuable to the respective transponder designers.

We all hope, Williams PE1RAH would be very happy with our decision and
behalf of every one here in India involved with project, wish Williams
and his transponder, once again all the very best and good luck.

Thanks to AMSAT-India (Nitin VU3TYG) for the all the help and
co-ordination provided.

Mani, VU2WMY
Secretary  Station-In-Charge
Upagrah Amateur Radio Club VU2URC
ISRO Satellite Centre
HAL Airport Road, Bangalore-560 017.
Phone:(O)91-80-25082054/2598/2192
Mobile:  91-80-98803 41456
E-mail ID: w...@isac.gov.in
   vu2wmy_m...@yahoo.com
   isroh...@yahoo.com


The official Announcement received at 08:19 UT from Mr. T.  
Parimalarangan, Operations Director VO-52, is herewith pasted.


Dear Sir,

1  HAMSAT Payload Transponder-2 (Dutch) will be switched on TODAY at  
13:50 Hrs UT / 13 March 2012


2  RF Specification of Transponder-2:

Uplink frequency  : 435.25 MHz
Downlink frequency  : 145.9 MHz
Beacon: CW at 145.859330 MHz (145.86 MHz)
Output level of Beacon Carrier: 18 dBm

3  Mr. Subramani VU2WMY, ISAC is requested to post the attachment in  
the website of HAM community, immediately. Also, the Real Time  
Feedback (on both the Indian visibility of this night) may please be  
conveyed through my mobile (0-9480 333 563). HAM users may be asked to  
send the performance report to my mail ID: tpran...@istrac.org


4 Performance of Transponder-2 shall be posted by 2130 Hrs IST (13.3.2012)

With Best Regards,

T PARIMALARANGAN
OD (NP), HAMSAT

ISTRAC/ISRO
Ph:  080 - 2202 9011 (O)
   080 - 2535 0132 (R)
   0 - 9480333563 (M)
   080 - 2202 9062 (F)



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[amsat-bb] Re: Need some ears to listen for VO-52, Northern EU, Canada, USA...

2012-03-13 Thread GW1FKY
 
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Hi William,
Glad to receive the good news and i wish you and the team  Good Luck  - 
it has been greatly missed by many.
However with the posting of the news I think perhaps the date should be  
13th March 2012..
Kind regards
Ken Eaton
GW1FKY
Amsat-UK
Amsat NA 
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[amsat-bb] Re: satpc32 help

2012-03-13 Thread Nick Pugh
I renamed the kep file and restarted satpc32 It then ask for a new file and
I pointed to the previous file that worked before. At this point as soon as
I say ok the program goes into a loop and I no longer have any control to do
anything. The only way out is a reboot.  What do I do next??

nick

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To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] satpc32 help

I updated the keps and now when I open satpc32 I get a error message that
keep repeating and the only way to abort the error message is to reboot.
Removing the keep file does not fix the problem.  Help??

 

Thank

 

nick 

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[amsat-bb] FW: satpc32 help

2012-03-13 Thread Angelo Glorioso







Keith,
 
 Sounds like you have a sat that is not longer in use in the Satellite sections 
of SATPC32. Trying and delete the decommissioned bird in between hitting
the error icon. This has happened to me before.
 
 
73 de Angelo
 


 
 
 
- 
If you don't ask, you will never know!!

 


 From: quadp...@bellsouth.net
 To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 04:33:38 -0500
 Subject: [amsat-bb] satpc32 help
 
 I updated the keps and now when I open satpc32 I get a error message that
 keep repeating and the only way to abort the error message is to reboot.
 Removing the keep file does not fix the problem. Help??
 
 
 
 Thank
 
 
 
 nick 
 
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[amsat-bb] Re: satpc32 help

2012-03-13 Thread Mark L. Hammond
Nick,

Did you happen to use the backup utility that comes with SatPC32?
That has saved me a number of times.  I try to run it every couple of
weeks, when things are running smoothly.

Then, it's a restore from the same utility, to get things back to normal.

Otherwise, you'll have to try deleting/replacing some of the .SQF
files that have the most recent dates in them

Mark N8MH


On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Nick Pugh quadp...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 I renamed the kep file and restarted satpc32 It then ask for a new file and
 I pointed to the previous file that worked before. At this point as soon as
 I say ok the program goes into a loop and I no longer have any control to do
 anything. The only way out is a reboot.  What do I do next??

 nick

 -Original Message-
 From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On
 Behalf Of Nick Pugh
 Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:34 AM
 To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
 Subject: [amsat-bb] satpc32 help

 I updated the keps and now when I open satpc32 I get a error message that
 keep repeating and the only way to abort the error message is to reboot.
 Removing the keep file does not fix the problem.  Help??



 Thank



 nick

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[amsat-bb] Re: 9600baud digital satellites

2012-03-13 Thread Alan P. Biddle
Dave,

There are a lot of TNCs around which will do 9600.  I have a DSP-2232 which
I used until recently.  These days many are moving to using sound cards and
software, such as MixW and the AGW Packet Engine.  Whatever approach you
take, remember that you need to use the rig connections for 9600 baud,
rather than the usual ones for 300/1200 baud.

Alan
WA4SCA
  

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Behalf Of David Hopkins
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:35 AM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] 9600baud digital satellites

Gentlemen,
Most of the current cube sats and those to follow in the future all 
use data communications for transmitting telementry back to earth.

In order to receive this data a ground station requires a TNC of some 
sort that can work up to 9600 baud.

To those of you who are already using this type of equipment, how are 
you doing i,t what equipment are you using?

David

David G. Hopkins (VK4ZF)
CAPALABA QLD
AUSTRALIA
27.32.38S 153.12.03E
QG62OL
Skype :- davhop 

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[amsat-bb] Re: satpc32 help

2012-03-13 Thread Nick Pugh
Backup fix it

Thanks Mark et all

nick

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From: Mark L. Hammond [mailto:marklhamm...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 7:04 AM
To: Nick Pugh
Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: satpc32 help

Nick,

Did you happen to use the backup utility that comes with SatPC32?
That has saved me a number of times.  I try to run it every couple of
weeks, when things are running smoothly.

Then, it's a restore from the same utility, to get things back to normal.

Otherwise, you'll have to try deleting/replacing some of the .SQF
files that have the most recent dates in them

Mark N8MH


On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Nick Pugh quadp...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 I renamed the kep file and restarted satpc32 It then ask for a new file
and
 I pointed to the previous file that worked before. At this point as soon
as
 I say ok the program goes into a loop and I no longer have any control to
do
 anything. The only way out is a reboot.  What do I do next??

 nick

 -Original Message-
 From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On
 Behalf Of Nick Pugh
 Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:34 AM
 To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
 Subject: [amsat-bb] satpc32 help

 I updated the keps and now when I open satpc32 I get a error message that
 keep repeating and the only way to abort the error message is to reboot.
 Removing the keep file does not fix the problem.  Help??



 Thank



 nick

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[amsat-bb] VO-51 Update

2012-03-13 Thread Mani VU2WMY
Due to 'Operational Constraints' the commands to turn on the  
transponder were not been able to send. In-convenience caused is  
regretted.


The next attempt would be made during 01:44 UT pass over India.

On behalf of 'Operations Director-VO-52

Mani, VU2WMY
ISRO Satellite Centre
Bangalore, India


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[amsat-bb] Re: VO-51 Update

2012-03-13 Thread Ng, Peter
...you missed AO-51 don't you? :)

73's Peter VE7NGP

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Of Mani VU2WMY
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 8:03 AM
To: BB, AMSAT; AMSAT-INDIA; VUHAMS
Cc: PE1RAH; VU3TYG
Subject: [amsat-bb] VO-51 Update

Due to 'Operational Constraints' the commands to turn on the  
transponder were not been able to send. In-convenience caused is  
regretted.

The next attempt would be made during 01:44 UT pass over India.

On behalf of 'Operations Director-VO-52

Mani, VU2WMY
ISRO Satellite Centre
Bangalore, India


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[amsat-bb] Need help with AMSAT table, April 7-Raleigh, NC

2012-03-13 Thread Mark L. Hammond
Hi All,

I am going to host an AMSAT table at the RARSFEST in Raleigh, NC on
Saturday, April 7th (yes, Easter weekend).

Anybody care to assist?  We usually can't pull off demos, but hosting
a table with toys+tracking programs usually draws some good attention
and publicity.

The RARS folks always make us feel welcome.   Please contact me
directly if you're willing and able to help.


Thanks!

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[amsat-bb] Re: VO-51 Update

2012-03-13 Thread i8cvs
Hi Mani,VU2WMY and All,

I will be monitoring for VO-52 during the first descending orbit 
Nr 37091 at 06:27 UTC day March 14, 2012 available from Italy.

Finger crossed !

73 de

i8CVS Domenico

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From: Mani VU2WMY w...@isac.gov.in
To: BB, AMSAT amsat-bb@amsat.org; AMSAT-INDIA
amsatin...@yahoogroups.com; VUHAMS vuh...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: PE1RAH pe1...@yahoo.com; VU3TYG vu3...@yahoo.co.in
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:02 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] VO-52 Update


 Due to 'Operational Constraints' the commands to turn on the
 transponder were not been able to send. In-convenience caused is
 regretted.

 The next attempt would be made during 01:44 UT pass over India.

 On behalf of 'Operations Director-VO-52

 Mani, VU2WMY
 ISRO Satellite Centre
 Bangalore, India

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[amsat-bb] Re: VO-51 Update

2012-03-13 Thread PE0SAT
Hi Domenico,

Unable to listen, but I will follow amsat-bb and hope to read that VO-52
and the Dutch transponder is operational ;-)

73 Jan PE0SAT

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On Tue, March 13, 2012 20:10, i8cvs wrote:
 Hi Mani,VU2WMY and All,

 I will be monitoring for VO-52 during the first descending orbit
 Nr 37091 at 06:27 UTC day March 14, 2012 available from Italy.

 Finger crossed !

 73 de

 i8CVS Domenico

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 From: Mani VU2WMY w...@isac.gov.in
 To: BB, AMSAT amsat-bb@amsat.org; AMSAT-INDIA
 amsatin...@yahoogroups.com; VUHAMS vuh...@yahoogroups.com
 Cc: PE1RAH pe1...@yahoo.com; VU3TYG vu3...@yahoo.co.in
 Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:02 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] VO-52 Update


 Due to 'Operational Constraints' the commands to turn on the
 transponder were not been able to send. In-convenience caused is
 regretted.

 The next attempt would be made during 01:44 UT pass over India.

 On behalf of 'Operations Director-VO-52

 Mani, VU2WMY
 ISRO Satellite Centre
 Bangalore, India

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[amsat-bb] G5500 Azimuth Rotator Update

2012-03-13 Thread David Palmer KB5WIA
Hi Everyone,

Here's a quick update on my G5500 Azimuth rotator story.  (Recall that
three weeks ago I stalled the rotator after switching antennas.)
Yaesu Parts USA is still backordered on the replacement motors,
possibly some will arrive from Japan in a few more weeks (or possibly
not).  The company that I sent the motor to in LA (Eurton Electric)
just gave me a quote today for the rewinding cost:  $365.  That's
close to $3X what the motors go for new (if you can find one!), so at
least with them it's not cost-effective to repair the motor.  I'm
having the motor shipped back, and I'll either try to rewind it
myself, maybe someone else who can rewind it, or buy a replacement
sometime in the future.

To get the antennas back on the air, I decided last week that it would
be good to have a spare -- so I ended up purchasing a replacement
G5500 system and installing the azimuth rotator this last weekend.
Everything's working great so far!  I also added a thermal cut-out
switch to the motor to prevent a similar stall-induced-motor-burnout
in the future.  If anyone is interested in how I installed the switch
(or what a G5500 azimuth rotator looks like inside), I've added
pictures to my blog at:

http://kb5wia.blogspot.com/2012/03/az-el-antenna-system-new-70cm-yagi-and.html

73!

Dave KB5WIA
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[amsat-bb] Re: VO-51 Update

2012-03-13 Thread i8cvs
Hi Mani, VU2WMY

I would like to know from you if the attempt to switch ON
the Dutch transponder on VO-52 at 01:44 UTC, March 14
2012 was succesfull or not.

Actually at 02:09 UTC and 07:39 local time over India there,
are no messages about on AMSAT-BB

By the way I will monitor the orbit 37091 at 06:27 over
Europe.

73 de

i8CVS Domenico

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Cc: PE1RAH pe1...@yahoo.com; VU3TYG vu3...@yahoo.co.in
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:02 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] VO-51 Update


 Due to 'Operational Constraints' the commands to turn on the
 transponder were not been able to send. In-convenience caused is
 regretted.

 The next attempt would be made during 01:44 UT pass over India.

 On behalf of 'Operations Director-VO-52

 Mani, VU2WMY
 ISRO Satellite Centre
 Bangalore, India


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[amsat-bb] Re: G5500 Azimuth Rotator Update

2012-03-13 Thread Greg D

Hi Dave,

How long does one have to stall the motor before the windings' 
insulation starts to degrade? I seem to recall it's not very long (less 
than minutes).


With all that thermal mass, and the insulation from the heat shrink 
tubing, is the thermal switch really going to be effective mounted that 
way? I would have thought it needed to be buried in the windings 
themselves somehow (though I can't imagine getting good thermal contact 
there either).


Great pictures, by the way.

Greg KO6TH


David Palmer KB5WIA wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Here's a quick update on my G5500 Azimuth rotator story.  (Recall that
three weeks ago I stalled the rotator after switching antennas.)
Yaesu Parts USA is still backordered on the replacement motors,
possibly some will arrive from Japan in a few more weeks (or possibly
not).  The company that I sent the motor to in LA (Eurton Electric)
just gave me a quote today for the rewinding cost:  $365.  That's
close to $3X what the motors go for new (if you can find one!), so at
least with them it's not cost-effective to repair the motor.  I'm
having the motor shipped back, and I'll either try to rewind it
myself, maybe someone else who can rewind it, or buy a replacement
sometime in the future.

To get the antennas back on the air, I decided last week that it would
be good to have a spare -- so I ended up purchasing a replacement
G5500 system and installing the azimuth rotator this last weekend.
Everything's working great so far!  I also added a thermal cut-out
switch to the motor to prevent a similar stall-induced-motor-burnout
in the future.  If anyone is interested in how I installed the switch
(or what a G5500 azimuth rotator looks like inside), I've added
pictures to my blog at:

http://kb5wia.blogspot.com/2012/03/az-el-antenna-system-new-70cm-yagi-and.html

73!

Dave KB5WIA
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[amsat-bb] VO-52 Update

2012-03-13 Thread Mani VU2WMY

Hello Domenico,
Not attempted during 01:44 UT pass.
Probably the command station may give a try during the next pass at  
03:20 UT. Not received any updates from them yet.

Will keep you all informed with the ongoing developments.

73 de
Mani VU2WMY

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Hi Mani, VU2WMY

I would like to know from you if the attempt to switch ON
the Dutch transponder on VO-52 at 01:44 UTC, March 14
2012 was succesfull or not.

Actually at 02:09 UTC and 07:39 local time over India there,
are no messages about on AMSAT-BB

By the way I will monitor the orbit 37091 at 06:27 over
Europe.

73 de

i8CVS Domenico




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[amsat-bb] VO52 not heard @ 0245 UTC pass

2012-03-13 Thread Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
Hi!

I was outside for the 0245 UTC VO52 pass here in central 
Arizona (DM43), and heard nothing from the transponder
or the CW beacon. That was a 74-degree pass here, 
which should have been easy to copy.

73!



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[amsat-bb] Re: VO-52 Update

2012-03-13 Thread i8cvs
Hi Mani, VU2WMY

The next pass at 03:20 UTC over India is just actually in process
and I hope to hear VO-52 over Europe at 06:27 UTC

Thanks for your informations.

73 de

i8CVS Domenico

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 Hello Domenico,
 Not attempted during 01:44 UT pass.
 Probably the command station may give a try during the next pass at
 03:20 UT. Not received any updates from them yet.
 Will keep you all informed with the ongoing developments.

 73 de
 Mani VU2WMY

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 Hi Mani, VU2WMY

 I would like to know from you if the attempt to switch ON
 the Dutch transponder on VO-52 at 01:44 UTC, March 14
 2012 was succesfull or not.

 Actually at 02:09 UTC and 07:39 local time over India there,
 are no messages about on AMSAT-BB

 By the way I will monitor the orbit 37091 at 06:27 over
 Europe.

 73 de

 i8CVS Domenico




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[amsat-bb] Re: G5500 Azimuth Rotator Update

2012-03-13 Thread i8cvs
Hi Greg KO6TH and Dave KB5WIA

I have always seen the thermal switches buried into the windings
themselves both for transformers and motors.

To prevent short circuits between turns of the windwing is better to
use # 24 fiber glass copper insulated wire for class H insulation of
motors or transformers wich windstand constantly very high temperature
around 180° C, Celsius i.e. 356 ° Fahrenheit.

I have used the above wire with success in critical thermal applications
to industrially rewind DC and AC motors working close to lead melting
fornaces in a steel plant in Italy.

73 de

i8CVS Domenico

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From: Greg D ko6th.g...@gmail.com
To: David Palmer KB5WIA kb5...@amsat.org
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Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 3:41 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: G5500 Azimuth Rotator Update


 Hi Dave,

 How long does one have to stall the motor before the windings'
 insulation starts to degrade? I seem to recall it's not very long (less
 than minutes).

 With all that thermal mass, and the insulation from the heat shrink
 tubing, is the thermal switch really going to be effective mounted that
 way? I would have thought it needed to be buried in the windings
 themselves somehow (though I can't imagine getting good thermal contact
 there either).

 Great pictures, by the way.

 Greg KO6TH


 David Palmer KB5WIA wrote:
  Hi Everyone,
 
  Here's a quick update on my G5500 Azimuth rotator story.  (Recall that
  three weeks ago I stalled the rotator after switching antennas.)
  Yaesu Parts USA is still backordered on the replacement motors,
  possibly some will arrive from Japan in a few more weeks (or possibly
  not).  The company that I sent the motor to in LA (Eurton Electric)
  just gave me a quote today for the rewinding cost:  $365.  That's
  close to $3X what the motors go for new (if you can find one!), so at
  least with them it's not cost-effective to repair the motor.  I'm
  having the motor shipped back, and I'll either try to rewind it
  myself, maybe someone else who can rewind it, or buy a replacement
  sometime in the future.
 
  To get the antennas back on the air, I decided last week that it would
  be good to have a spare -- so I ended up purchasing a replacement
  G5500 system and installing the azimuth rotator this last weekend.
  Everything's working great so far!  I also added a thermal cut-out
  switch to the motor to prevent a similar stall-induced-motor-burnout
  in the future.  If anyone is interested in how I installed the switch
  (or what a G5500 azimuth rotator looks like inside), I've added
  pictures to my blog at:
 
 
http://kb5wia.blogspot.com/2012/03/az-el-antenna-system-new-70cm-yagi-and.ht
ml
 
  73!
 
  Dave KB5WIA
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[amsat-bb] Re: G5500 Azimuth Rotator Update

2012-03-13 Thread David Palmer KB5WIA
Hi Greg,

Hey, thanks!

Good question about how long it takes the windings to degrade.
Haven't tested this myself, but I'd seen a post a while back where
someone measured current draw on the motor, and found that it's
actually almost the same between normal operation and a full stall.
That also could be the reason why the 1-Amp fuse I installed in the
controller (which was barely enough to run the motors without blowing
- a 0.75-Amp fuse I tried blew) never blew throughout my motor stall.
 So  with similar current and voltage in a stall as compared to
normal use,  that should mean the power consumed (and heat generated)
would be similar whether the motor is running or stalled.

When I was bench testing the rotator, after maybe 5 full trips to 450
degrees and back (perhaps 10-15 minutes of continuous motor operation)
the thermal switch rated at 75C tripped open.  So that means the
switch is sensing the motor heat, and that it seems in normal
operation the motor can go from ambient to 75C (or more) in 10+
minutes. Hard to tell what the failure temp of the enamel wire in that
motor is, but let's guess 120 degrees to be conservative.  That would
give a very rough ballpark of 20 mins stall (or 20mins continuous
back-and-forth with no stops) to raise the temp by 100C to cook the
motor.

You're right about thermal mass and winding temps -- certainly the
windings will be hotter than the motor chassis.  Will cutting power to
the motor when the chassis gets to 75C protect it?  Don't know for
certain, but after my last experience, I'm adding this insurance,
since it's better than no protection!  :-)

(doesn't beat common sense tho -- if I had more of that, I would have
checked antenna clearance before letting the computer run the sat
array automatically!)

73 de Dave KB5WIA!



On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:41 AM, Greg D ko6th.g...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Dave,

 How long does one have to stall the motor before the windings' insulation
 starts to degrade? I seem to recall it's not very long (less than minutes).

 With all that thermal mass, and the insulation from the heat shrink tubing,
 is the thermal switch really going to be effective mounted that way? I would
 have thought it needed to be buried in the windings themselves somehow
 (though I can't imagine getting good thermal contact there either).

 Great pictures, by the way.

 Greg KO6TH

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[amsat-bb] Re: VO-52 Update

2012-03-13 Thread Mani VU2WMY

Hi Domenico and others,

Commands were sent during 03:20 UT pass over India. But, unfortunately  
the commands were not been acknowledged and confirmed by the  
telemetry. The next opportunity is at 14:00 UT 35 deg ascending pass  
over Bangalore, India.


we are trying our best to restore the services at the earliest with  
the constrain of having a single command  control station for VO-52.  
we do hope that, we'll be successful in our efforts, very soon.



Mani VU2WMY

Quoting i8cvs domenico.i8...@tin.it:


Hi Mani, VU2WMY

The next pass at 03:20 UTC over India is just actually in process
and I hope to hear VO-52 over Europe at 06:27 UTC

Thanks for your informations.

73 de

i8CVS Domenico

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Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4:03 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] VO-52 Update



Hello Domenico,
Not attempted during 01:44 UT pass.
Probably the command station may give a try during the next pass at
03:20 UT. Not received any updates from them yet.
Will keep you all informed with the ongoing developments.

73 de
Mani VU2WMY

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Hi Mani, VU2WMY

I would like to know from you if the attempt to switch ON
the Dutch transponder on VO-52 at 01:44 UTC, March 14
2012 was succesfull or not.

Actually at 02:09 UTC and 07:39 local time over India there,
are no messages about on AMSAT-BB

By the way I will monitor the orbit 37091 at 06:27 over
Europe.

73 de

i8CVS Domenico





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[amsat-bb] Interplanetary CubeSat Workshop‏

2012-03-13 Thread Rodrigo Zeledon




Dear AMSAT community, 

I
 am writing to inform you of a new conference that may be of interest 
to you. 
Cornell and MIT are organizing the 1st Interplanetary CubeSat Workshop. 
The conference will be held at the end of May this year at MIT, and 
abstracts are now being accepted for technical talks.

The event website describing keynote speakers, program details and other 
information can be accessed at:
  www.iCubeSat.org

Thanks, 
Rodrigo Zeledon
on behalf of the iCubeSat2012 organizing committee

  
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[amsat-bb] Re: UPDATED AMATEUR SATELLITE FREQUENCY COORDINATION REQUEST

2012-03-13 Thread I0ELE - AMSAT Italia

Hi Hans,
thanks for reminding us the role of IARU for the amateur satellite 
frequency coordination. However in the most recent years the number of 
satellite launched by universities in the amateur bands is growing 
faster and faster. Are all these satellites coordinated by the relevant 
universities? Do you have a list of satellites already launched with an 
indication of their compliance with IARU rules and possibly with ITU rules.
I do not know if any action is made by IARU, through its national 
members, with respect to entities which do not fulfil these rules, and 
the IARU Bandplans as well. It is important for IARU, in my 
understanding to monitor the situation.

73, Emanuele I0ELE


Il 13/03/2012 21.13, Hans ha scritto:



Frequency coordination for amateur radio satellites is provided by the IARU
through its Satellite Advisor, an official appointed by the IARU
Administrative Council, its top policymaking body.  The IARU Satellite
Advisor is assisted by an Advisory Panel of qualified amateurs from all
three IARU Regions.   The panel meets regularly via Skype to consider
amateur satellite frequency coordination requests for satellites planned for
operation on frequencies in the amateur service. The panel members often
provide advice and assist satellite builders with the selection of   the
best possible frequencies to meet the objectives of their mission.



The Amateur Satellite Frequency Coordination request form has been updated
(Version 27) and is available for download from www.iaru.org/satellite. On
the IARU web satellite page there are also available a number of guideline
documents which will assist satellite builders, including a document on the
ITU requirements for Amateur Radio Satellites.



.



73



Hans ZS6AKV

Hans van de Groenendaal

IARU Satellite Advisor



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