[amsat-bb] BL02 Operation on Sunday 9/9 & Tuesday 9/11

2012-09-08 Thread Tom Deeble - KA6SIP

Aloha,

For those looking for a contact with Hawaii here is my schedule for this Sunday 
and Tuesday:

Sunday 9/9/12
FO-29  2116-2123Z   11:16-11:23 HAST   14:16-14:23 PDT
AO-27  2242-2248Z   12:42-12:48 HAST   15:42-15:48 PDT

Tuesday 9/11/12
AO-07 Mode B  0123-0134z (9/12/12)   15:23-15:34 HAST (9/11/12)   18:23-18:34 
PDT

Sorry that Saturday didn't work out, but the Tuesday AO-07 pass was added to 
help reach most of the way across the mainland.  Thanks to Frank, K4FEG, for 
the AO-07 info.

Hope to meet on the birds.  So far things have been working well.  I had a 
contact with Frank, K4FEG, in Tennessee, Clayton, W5PFG, in Texas, and David, 
W0DHB, in Colorado, on a late night (Hawaii time) pass of FO-29.  Signals from 
my end in Kauai were heard down to the horizon, even with an FT-817 running at 
5 watts!

73's - Tom


Tom Deeble - KA6SIP
Mt. Diablo Amateur Radio Club Membership Chairman
ka6...@aol.com
PACIFICON - ARRL National Convention  Oct 12-14

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[amsat-bb] Re: Digital Slow Scan in space

2012-09-08 Thread Trevor .
--- On Fri, 7/9/12, g0...@aol.com  wrote:
> An essential feature would be that whenever a 'packet' of
> data is received, that data is displayed rather than waiting
> for the complete image to be received error free.
> I couldn't find much on DRM encoding but I think it was
> originally intended for digital voice in a narrow bandwidth
> so it sounds suitable for low power satellite use.

WinDRM (and DRMDV/FDMDV) were written by Cesco Lanza HB9TLK some info at 
http://n1su.com/windrm/download.html 

To achieve a reasonable data rate it's usually run at 64QAM (with full SSB 
bandwidth). 64 QAM is less robust and requires a higher S/N. 

I've no idea what the practical effects of a high Doppler shift would be, 
although a computerized station with frequent Doppler correction should track 
it okay. 

Is the data rate on High Altitude Balloons about 300 bps ? I've never received 
any images from them but if 300 bps is correct then the images are either low 
res or take a long time to send ?

Analog SSTV is still going strong some 6 years after the introduction of 
Digital SSTV perhaps indicating that existing Digital SSTV approaches do not 
yet match the performance/robustness/ease of use of analog for HF working.

73 Trevor M5AKA


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[amsat-bb] Re: Digital Slow Scan in space

2012-09-08 Thread Wouter Weggelaar
Hi All,

SSDV indeed shows you the images "as they come in"
Most High Altitude Balloons use RTTY with relatively slow baudrates.
The balloons are limited to using FSK modems in the ISM bands, because
of legal issues. Therefore, RTTY is the most feasable mode. Tim Zaman
here in the Netherlands has run 1200bd RTTY before on a balloon. see
http://www.timzaman.com/?page_id=1106&lang=en
He used the faster baudrate to send bigger pictures in the same time
and was running two baudrates alternating.

For satellites, you could run a more complex downlink off course, with
less transmission time and FEC.
64QAM might work on bigger sats, but I think it is not feasible for a
one or 2u satellite at the moment. I would place my bet on flying
BPSK/QPSK for now, and more complex things later.

Needless to say that I agree with David about the handshaking and
ACKs, but the balloons don't do that either.
I do not know anything on HF SSTV, but I have seen SSDV working just fine.

Wouter
PA3WEG

On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Trevor .  wrote:
> --- On Fri, 7/9/12, g0...@aol.com  wrote:
>> An essential feature would be that whenever a 'packet' of
>> data is received, that data is displayed rather than waiting
>> for the complete image to be received error free.
>> I couldn't find much on DRM encoding but I think it was
>> originally intended for digital voice in a narrow bandwidth
>> so it sounds suitable for low power satellite use.
>
> WinDRM (and DRMDV/FDMDV) were written by Cesco Lanza HB9TLK some info at
> http://n1su.com/windrm/download.html
>
> To achieve a reasonable data rate it's usually run at 64QAM (with full SSB 
> bandwidth). 64 QAM is less robust and requires a higher S/N.
>
> I've no idea what the practical effects of a high Doppler shift would be, 
> although a computerized station with frequent Doppler correction should track 
> it okay.
>
> Is the data rate on High Altitude Balloons about 300 bps ? I've never 
> received any images from them but if 300 bps is correct then the images are 
> either low res or take a long time to send ?
>
> Analog SSTV is still going strong some 6 years after the introduction of 
> Digital SSTV perhaps indicating that existing Digital SSTV approaches do not 
> yet match the performance/robustness/ease of use of analog for HF working.
>
> 73 Trevor M5AKA
>
>
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[amsat-bb] Re: AO-10 and AO-16

2012-09-08 Thread Alan P. Biddle
Joe,

Sure.  They are in the AMATEUR.TXT file from CelesTrak, or direct from Space
Track:

PHASE 3B (AO-10)
1 14129U 83058B   12175.07756213 -.0148  0-0  1-3 0  9907
2 14129  27.2164 331.8891 6028293 170.2637 211.0686  2.05868475190346


73s,

Alan
WA4SCA
 

-Original Message-
From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Gary "Joe" Mayfield
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 10:33 PM
To: 'AMSAT-BB'
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-10 and AO-16

Does anyone even have KEPS for AO-10?

73,
Joe kk0sd

-Original Message-
From: Mark L. Hammond [mailto:marklhamm...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 5:43 AM
To: Gary "Joe" Mayfield; 'AMSAT-BB'
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-10 and AO-16

Hi Joe,

Actually, I checked on AO-16 last Saturday.  I didn't even get the
transmitter to come on, let alone stay on.  It was a low pass, and I hope to
check again in the next few weeks.  If you'll remember, the problem with
keeping the satellite ON is temperature related.  If it gets lots of sun
(little eclipse), it will be warm enough to remain on.  Otherwise, it
won't...and the orbit is such that it doesn't get enough sun--and it
probably won't for another 10 years or so.But I check periodically.

About every week or two Drew KO4MA and I try to turn AO-51 back on.  My
latest try was last Saturday.  Nothing heard.

IO-26 is still up there, and still humming; it needs to be turned on from
time to time, so I do that.  But we haven't figured out how to run it in
voice like we did with AO-16; it doesn't appear possible. 

Don't know about AO-10; I haven't listened for a while.  And I don't know if
it is expected to come on without commanding (which I cannot do).

73,

Mark N8MH

At 10:28 PM 9/6/2012 -0500, Gary \"Joe\" Mayfield wrote:
>Has anyone checked on AO-10 or AO-16 lately?
>
> 
>
>73,
>
>Joe kk0sd
>
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[amsat-bb] Manchester Encoding

2012-09-08 Thread Tom Lubbers K8TL
Didn't know there was anything left with Manchester encoding!!  There is a 
PSK-1/DFMTNC on Ebay with a few days to go.

Tom K8TL
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[amsat-bb] Re: Manchester Encoding

2012-09-08 Thread Mark L. Hammond
Tom,

For now, about the only thing is IO-26.  It spits out telemetry from
time to time, in bursts of "5' frames.  It often burps as it goes into
and out of eclipse, for one thing...  There doesn't appear to be a
timed schedule for transmission.

And of course, you can use MixW to decode the packets with a sound card!

Mark N8MH

On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Tom Lubbers K8TL  wrote:
> Didn't know there was anything left with Manchester encoding!!  There is a 
> PSK-1/DFMTNC on Ebay with a few days to go.
>
> Tom K8TL
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[amsat-bb] PROITERES Launch

2012-09-08 Thread Mineo Wakita

PROITERES, Osaka Institute of Technology, Japan
Launch : 9 Sep 2012 4:21UTC (9:51IST)
Vehicle: PSLV-CA with SPOT6 and mRESINS
Site   : Satish Dhawan Space Centre, Sriharikota, India
30cm^3, 10kg, 10W, 437.485MHz FM/AFSK

http://www.oit.ac.jp/elc/~satellite/index-e.html
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/proiters.htm

JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita


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[amsat-bb] Camera on an antenna

2012-09-08 Thread James Luhn
Please don't ya'll laugh too hard at me.  Has anyone ever mounted a 
camera on a beam?  Now I am not trying to see AO40, but I would like to 
simply double check the location of my beam for eme.  If anyone has 
mounted a camera on a beam, I would be interested in what you used.  
Yes, I know all about beam width vs the moon.  I just hate to call CQ 
with my beams pointed to the ground due to some Murphy type of failure.


73,
-james
W5AOO
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[amsat-bb] NOVA Software

2012-09-08 Thread James Luhn
I have been tinkering with NOVA Software.  I simply cannot figure out 
how to add additional satellites like SO50.  I have pointed the update 
to various sites that I thought should work but I have not succeeded in 
getting so50 and some other amateur satellites to show up.  Any advice 
would be appreciated. I am sure I am making a simple mistake somehow, 
someway.  I guess that is what I deserve for tinkering.


73,
-james
W5AOO
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[amsat-bb] Re: PROITERES Launch

2012-09-08 Thread Trevor .
Thanks Mineo for the info on this Pulsed Plasma Thruster microsat.

There is a video of the PSLV-C21 launch vehicle being prepared for take-off at

http://www.uk.amsat.org/?p=10201

73 Trevor M5AKA


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[amsat-bb] Re: Camera on an antenna

2012-09-08 Thread Bob- W7LRD

That's cool idea Jim...could even aim it at the neighbors 
73 Bob W7LRD 

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From: "James Luhn"  
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org 
Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2012 10:22:21 AM 
Subject: [amsat-bb] Camera on an antenna 

Please don't ya'll laugh too hard at me. Has anyone ever mounted a 
camera on a beam? Now I am not trying to see AO40, but I would like to 
simply double check the location of my beam for eme. If anyone has 
mounted a camera on a beam, I would be interested in what you used. 
Yes, I know all about beam width vs the moon. I just hate to call CQ 
with my beams pointed to the ground due to some Murphy type of failure. 

73, 
-james 
W5AOO 
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[amsat-bb] Re: NOVA Software

2012-09-08 Thread Adrian Engele


Hi James,

Very simple.
- Go to AMSAT.org
-Look for Sat Status and find SO-50, you will find it's other name under 
Saudisat-C.   You can do the same for other satellites.

-Open Nova go to Setup tab on top left of screen. Open drop down list look for 
Satellites
-Open the Satellites List look for Saudisat-C. Click on the satellite.

-In the Satellite Editor screen rename it to SO-50 or SO50 as you desire. 

-Then press OK to save.
-Open Satellite page again. Go to theGroups Tab, look for Amateur.
-You will see a list of amateur satellites that are stored in your group list. 
You can add satellites by dragging them over from the main list to the Group 
list or you can highlight a satellite and then hit delete.
-Update the list to your liking and then press OK.

You should be good to go. If you have any other questions drop me a note 
offline aa5uk at yahoo.com.

There is also a very good manual on Nova's website.

Have fun! 


73, Adrian AA5UK




>
> From: James Luhn 
>To: amsat-bb@amsat.org 
>Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2012 12:35 PM
>Subject: [amsat-bb] NOVA Software
> 
>I have been tinkering with NOVA Software.  I simply cannot figure out how to 
>add additional satellites like SO50.  I have pointed the update to various 
>sites that I thought should work but I have not succeeded in getting so50 and 
>some other amateur satellites to show up.  Any advice would be appreciated. I 
>am sure I am making a simple mistake somehow, someway.  I guess that is what I 
>deserve for tinkering.
>
>73,
>-james
>W5AOO
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[amsat-bb] Re: Camera on an antenna

2012-09-08 Thread Jim Jerzycke

Greg, KO6TH, has done this.

I've got enough stuff to do it, and now that my antennas are down, I 
might add a camera to the cross-boom.


Here's Greg's website: http://home.wavecable.com/~ko6th/

73, Jim  KQ6EA

On 09/08/2012 05:22 PM, James Luhn wrote:
Please don't ya'll laugh too hard at me.  Has anyone ever mounted a 
camera on a beam?  Now I am not trying to see AO40, but I would like 
to simply double check the location of my beam for eme.  If anyone has 
mounted a camera on a beam, I would be interested in what you used.  
Yes, I know all about beam width vs the moon.  I just hate to call CQ 
with my beams pointed to the ground due to some Murphy type of failure.


73,
-james
W5AOO
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[amsat-bb] Re: Camera on an antenna

2012-09-08 Thread Franklin Antonio

At 10:22 AM 9/8/2012, James Luhn wrote:
Please don't ya'll laugh too hard at me.  Has anyone ever mounted a 
camera on a beam?  Now I am not trying to see AO40, but I would like 
to simply double check the location of my beam for eme.


I saw (many years ago), pictures of video cameras mounted on the edge 
of an eme dish for just this purpose.  I also remember (from some 
amsat meeting) a picture of someome's shack which had a TV monitor 
with the moon in the center of it.


Only concern i'd have is that a TV camera is an electronic device, 
which generates EMI.  Mounting such a thing so close to your antennas 
may cause some or possibly a huge amount of interference.  I'd 
suggest making sure you can cut power to the camera remotely, and 
also can disconnect the cable that carries the TV signal down to the 
shack.  Whether that cable is a coax or an ethernet or whatever, it 
can carry EMI from equipment in the shack up to the antenna.


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[amsat-bb] Re: Deciphering Phase 3D Telemetry

2012-09-08 Thread Tony

On 9/8/2012 8:47 AM, Alan P. Biddle wrote:

Tony,Here are the first few Keps, covering a week, from Space Track after the
launch.


Alan,

The last set of keps show AO-40 at 26,612 km above the earth and about 
28,880 km from my location. Elevation was 36 degrees. I used NOVA to  
backtrack  the position of the satellite.


Thanks a bunch Alan. I can send you the telemetry audio file if you'd 
like? It's only 1MB.


Tony -K2MO
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[amsat-bb] Re: IO-26 as digital EMAIL relay?

2012-09-08 Thread Mark L. Hammond
IO-26 will apparently no longer run the PACSAT software.  It's in MBL mode and 
doesn't have any sort of PACSAT file system software, etc.Same issue with 
AO-16 when it was warm enough to try to resurrect; some type of hardware issue 
that prevents it from running (memory? memory controller?)

73,

Mark N8MH 

At 01:55 AM 9/8/2012 -0400, Douglas Quagliana wrote:
>Bob wrote:
>
>>In the old days, it required everyone to get a $300 modem and use an 
>SSB
>>rig on the downlink.  But the Uplink is FM.  SO anyone can transmit.  
>And
>>these days, somone I am sure has already written the sound-card 
>generate
>>the manchester uplink!
>
>Hi Bob,
>I wrote that program to generate the Manchester uplink on a soundcard
>about ten years ago. The program is called UPW for "Uplink to Pacsats
>for Windows" and it's at
>
>http://www.quagliana.com/upw/index.html
>
>if anyone is still interested in it.  UPW will generate the proper 1200 baud
>AX.25 APRS packet with NRZI and Manchester encoding suitable for
>feeding to the microphone of an FM transmitter.  UPW is also mentioned
>on your APRS ASTARS page.   :-)
>
>Bob continues:
>>But if it is a pacsat, can't it act as a digipeater if you just set 
>the DIGI bit to on?
>
>I think there's more to digipeating than just setting the digi bit.  I believe
>IO-26 is still in MBL mode or something similar.  I am pretty sure the
>satellite is not running the full PACSAT BBS software which was needed
>to digipeat AX25 packets, but I'll defer to Mark, N8MH, on the specifics of
>the current status of IO-26.
>
>73,
>Douglas KA2UPW/5
>
>
>
>
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[amsat-bb] sstv

2012-09-08 Thread jerry keeton
I have in the past received as many as 2 images from seeds II on one pass . 
Don't know if it's still operational or not .

Jerry WB5LHD
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[amsat-bb] ISRO's 100th Mission

2012-09-08 Thread Mani VU2WMY
The Japanese amateur radio satellite PROITERES will be one of the  
payloads of today's PSLV C21 launch and will be the 100th mission of  
ISRO.


PROITERES was built by a team of students and faculty members of Osaka  
Institute of Technology (OIT) and the spacecraft aims to demonstrate  
powered flight using a Pulsed Plasma Thruster (PPT) engine. Its  
amateur radio callsign is JL3YZK.
PROITERES stands for PRoject of OIT Electric-Rocket-Engine Onboard  
Small Space Ship and will transmit on 437.485 MHz FM/AFSK. The  
spacecraft carries a camera and the two CPU’s run the Linux operating  
system.

www.uk.amsat.org/10201


Mani, VU2WMY
Secretary & Station-In-Charge
Upagrah Amateur Radio Club VU2URC
ISRO Satellite Centre
HAL Airport Road, Bangalore-560 017.
Phone:(O)91-80-25082054/2598/2192
Mobile:  91-80-98803 41456
E-mail ID: w...@isac.gov.in
   vu2wmy_m...@yahoo.com
   isroh...@yahoo.com

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[amsat-bb] Re: [amsatindia] ISRO's 100th Mission and keps for PROITERES

2012-09-08 Thread Nitin Muttin
Mani,
 
Congratulations to ISRO on this milestone and wishing many more successful 
missions.
 
Below are the keps for 
 
PROITERES 
1 0U 1200 12253.19430671 . 0-0 0-0 0 0 1 0U 
1200 12253.19430671 . 0-0 0-0 0 0 
2 0 98.2295 318.1569 0001127 43.4870 166.2306 14.72139142 0 2 00 000 00 
000 98.2295 318.1569 0001 127 43.4870 166.2306 14.72139142 
 
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.oit.ac.jp%2Felc%2F~satellite%2Findex.html
 
73
Nitin [VU3TYG]
 
 



From: Mani VU2WMY 
To: AMSAT-INDIA ; VUHAMS ; 
"BB, AMSAT"  
Sent: Sunday, 9 September 2012 9:19 AM
Subject: [amsatindia] ISRO's 100th Mission


  
The Japanese amateur radio satellite PROITERES will be one of the 
payloads of today's PSLV C21 launch and will be the 100th mission of 
ISRO.

PROITERES was built by a team of students and faculty members of Osaka 
Institute of Technology (OIT) and the spacecraft aims to demonstrate 
powered flight using a Pulsed Plasma Thruster (PPT) engine. Its 
amateur radio callsign is JL3YZK.
PROITERES stands for PRoject of OIT Electric-Rocket-Engine Onboard 
Small Space Ship and will transmit on 437.485 MHz FM/AFSK. The 
spacecraft carries a camera and the two CPU’s run the Linux operating 
system.
www.uk.amsat.org/10201

Mani, VU2WMY
Secretary & Station-In-Charge
Upagrah Amateur Radio Club VU2URC
ISRO Satellite Centre
HAL Airport Road, Bangalore-560 017.
Phone:(O)91-80-25082054/2598/2192
Mobile: 91-80-98803 41456
E-mail ID: mailto:wmy%40isac.gov.in
mailto:vu2wmy_mani%40yahoo.com
mailto:isrohams%40yahoo.com

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