[amsat-bb] Re: transponder

2012-10-17 Thread i8cvs
Hi Paolo, PU2PHK

I suggest you to contact William PE1RAH at pe1...@yahoo.com

73 de

i8CVS Domenico

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 Hello
 I'm doing some experiments and I wonder if anyone has some scheme of a
 Linear Transponder VHF - UHF to provide me.
 Now appreciate any help.
 Thanks.
 Paulo PU2PHK
 Brasil

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[amsat-bb] Re: transponder

2012-10-17 Thread Jari Koivurinne
 Hello
 I'm doing some experiments and I wonder if anyone has some scheme of a
 Linear Transponder VHF - UHF to provide me.
 Now appreciate any help.
 Thanks.
 Paulo PU2PHK
 Brasil



Hello!

This is one ready to fly analog transponder:
http://www.qsl.net/pe1rah/LE002.htm

-jari oh3uw




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[amsat-bb] Re: transponder

2012-10-17 Thread Mike Rupprecht
At the AMSAT-DL meeting in Bochum last weekend William presented a U/V
lineartransponder for 1U cubesats (weight only 30 gramms)

73 Mike
DK3WN

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An: Paulinho - PU2PHK
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Betreff: [amsat-bb] Re: transponder

 Hello
 I'm doing some experiments and I wonder if anyone has some scheme of a 
 Linear Transponder VHF - UHF to provide me.
 Now appreciate any help.
 Thanks.
 Paulo PU2PHK
 Brasil



Hello!

This is one ready to fly analog transponder:
http://www.qsl.net/pe1rah/LE002.htm

-jari oh3uw




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[amsat-bb] T-Sat1 Assembly Video

2012-10-17 Thread Trevor .
A video of T-Sat1 assembly can be seen at 

http://www.uk.amsat.org/?p=11061 

73 Trevor M5AKA


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[amsat-bb] AO-7 N. Eu.

2012-10-17 Thread Bob- W7LRD
the next pass of AO-7 at 1942Z I will be looking for N. Europe. I heard SM3KPX 
the last pass, always looking for Mika! On or about 145.957. 
73 Bob W7LRD 
CN87wk 
Seattle, Wa. 
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[amsat-bb] AMSAT-LU Stratospheric Balloon Video

2012-10-17 Thread Amsat Argentina
On May-19 authorized high altitude Balloon was launched from La Pampa,
Argentina, reaching 34.000 m, carring UHF to VHF (4w) subtone
activated repeater, APRS lu7aa-11, Robot-36 live SSTV, CW, 40/20m CW
tlm beacon and 2 video cameras. (Total weight 970 grams) Details (in
spanish) on http://www.amsat.org.ar/globo19.htm

During the 4 hours flight, over 200 stations pileup doing bilateral
QSOs thru repeater participated using mostly dual band handies, a
contest was in place, winner from Uruguay won a dual band handy,
participants got certificates http://www.amsat.org.ar/cx2tq.jpg

Payload was recovered from a mud on Oct-6 by 4x4 Adventure Group in
isolated and flooded area, recovered payload photos  analysis on
http://www.amsat.org.ar/rescate.jpg

Video and sound taken by two on board TV Cameras spanned 6 hours, they
had been compiled and available to view on http://youtu.be/ib9_zlgN8d0

Experiment is part of Amsat-LU development and field tests as well as
users practice of LUSEX satellite http://www.lusex.org.ar

Planned to be repeated during Nov/Dec timeframe pending flight
authorization by Argentina Federal Aviation Authorities.

73, LU7AA, AMSAT Argentina
info at amsat.org.ar
http://www.amsat.org.ar
http://www.facebook.com/Amsat.LU
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[amsat-bb] Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video

2012-10-17 Thread Gordon JC Pearce

On 16/10/12 03:18, Ben Jackson wrote:


It may be easy to reliably work a future generation of satellites with
an HT and a rubber duckie.  But that won't be challenging.  And we (the
operators) won't be learning anything new.


But instead folks are promoting an anachronism. They're discussing
learning something new at the same time saying we should be using a
technology that has been in use since the 1960s.

So then instead of focusing on linear transponders how about deploying
HSMM nodes into space, TDMA, or DMR technology? (No idea how feasible
any of of this is)


DMR as it stands isn't viable because it relies on really tight timing 
in the slots - the book figure is 75 miles but people have pushed it 
to over 100.  The trouble here is that the speed of light just isn't 
that fast ;-)


In any case, the challenge has changed.  I don't see any real challenge 
in the hard sats, because the hard sat brigade all seem to use 
massive aerial arrays, with computer-controlled steering and tuning.  I 
don't see what's hard about it - it's just throwing technology and no 
real skill at the problem.  Once you've figured out the mysteries of the 
crappy proprietary software that people use to steer the aerials and 
tune the rig, it's point-and-shoot.


The FM sats can be worked with something as simple as a dual-band handie 
and a homebrew crossband pair of Yagis - and a great deal of operator skill.


No, the challenge today is this - are you ready?  The challenge is:

Get something flying, for less than the GDP of a small nation.

There, I've said it.  It's down to money.  You know what else I'm going 
to say?


There is almost certainly never going to be another amateur HEO satellite.

There, I've said *that*, too.  Want to know why?  Because we're a 
tightfisted bunch and no-one is going to fly us for very nearly free. 
The HEO crowd have some amazing technology, but it's going to cost a 
fortune - a very large fortune - to fly these Death Star-sized 
satellites *at all*, never mind into HEO.


The future is small satellites, where we will have to cram as much radio 
into a tiny cubesat payload as we can.  Even then it's going to be 
expensive, so we're going to need to look at countries that are 
developing their space programme to get launches - and that's going to 
be India, Pakistan, Iran if they get their shit together, maybe Israel 
if we can get them interested in anything other than observation 
satellites and probably one or two others.  Maybe some wealthyish 
African countries will get in on it, like the DRC or Kenya.


We're going to have to try coming up with clever satellites, rather than 
flying a bent-pipe box the size of a fridge.  No-one is going to want to 
lift that, without us paying full price.


--
Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ
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[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT-LU Stratospheric Balloon Video

2012-10-17 Thread Fabiano Moser
Congratulations!
Best regards.

Fabiano Moser
Enviado do meu iPhone4


On 17/10/2012, at 20:37, Amsat Argentina amsa...@gmail.com wrote:

 On May-19 authorized high altitude Balloon was launched from La Pampa,
 Argentina, reaching 34.000 m, carring UHF to VHF (4w) subtone
 activated repeater, APRS lu7aa-11, Robot-36 live SSTV, CW, 40/20m CW
 tlm beacon and 2 video cameras. (Total weight 970 grams) Details (in
 spanish) on http://www.amsat.org.ar/globo19.htm
 
 During the 4 hours flight, over 200 stations pileup doing bilateral
 QSOs thru repeater participated using mostly dual band handies, a
 contest was in place, winner from Uruguay won a dual band handy,
 participants got certificates http://www.amsat.org.ar/cx2tq.jpg
 
 Payload was recovered from a mud on Oct-6 by 4x4 Adventure Group in
 isolated and flooded area, recovered payload photos  analysis on
 http://www.amsat.org.ar/rescate.jpg
 
 Video and sound taken by two on board TV Cameras spanned 6 hours, they
 had been compiled and available to view on http://youtu.be/ib9_zlgN8d0
 
 Experiment is part of Amsat-LU development and field tests as well as
 users practice of LUSEX satellite http://www.lusex.org.ar
 
 Planned to be repeated during Nov/Dec timeframe pending flight
 authorization by Argentina Federal Aviation Authorities.
 
 73, LU7AA, AMSAT Argentina
 info at amsat.org.ar
 http://www.amsat.org.ar
 http://www.facebook.com/Amsat.LU
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[amsat-bb] Amsat Journal?

2012-10-17 Thread ryan woods
What is going on with the journal I have not received one in a long time. I 
always enjoyed reading it. I know im still okay on my dues are up to date 
because I joined this year after moving out of my parents house. 


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[amsat-bb] K2BSA/5 on satellites for JOTA

2012-10-17 Thread Tom Schuessler
The National Scouting Museum in Irving Texas will again be making Satellite
contacts as we can on Saturday, October 20 the for Scouting's Jamboree on
the Air as K2BSA/5  Passes however will be limited if AO-27 is still out of
commission.  Will try FO-29 and AO-7 if in B mode.  SO-50 will be too late
in the day for us.Hoping that by next year we have FOX up as well as
FunCube and UKCube for linear transponder options.

No matter what, look for Scout stations and give them a call.

Tom Schuessler
2713 Lake Gardens Drive
Irving, Texas  75060
972-986-7456
214-403-1464 (Cell)
n5...@arrl.net



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[amsat-bb] Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video

2012-10-17 Thread Gus 8P6SM
On 10/17/2012 05:38 PM, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
 We're going to have to try coming up with clever satellites, rather than
 flying a bent-pipe box the size of a fridge.  No-one is going to want to
 lift that, without us paying full price.

I may not be 100% on the 'bent pipe' definition, but if it means hams
'talk' on the UP and other hams 'listens' on the DOWN, then that's what
we need.  Whether it be the size of a fridge of a matchbox, if ham radio
operators can't use it to communicate, then it's pretty pointless.  It
don't matter how much telemetry it sends, how many LEDs it blinks, how
clever the beacons, or what purty pictures it downlinks.  If hams can't
use it to QSO, then why bother?

-- 
73, de Gus 8P6SM,
Evil DXing ragchewer!

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[amsat-bb] Re: Amsat Journal?

2012-10-17 Thread i8cvs
Hi Ryan, KD8ATF

The new editor of the AMSAT Journal is Doug Loughmiller, W5BL
and before in 2011 was Ed Long WA4SWJ

In march 2012 I have sent to W5BL an article to be published in the next
issue of the Journal but after many reminders I have not received from
him any proof for my review once the article get laid out.

Try to get informations about your Journal from the actual editor Doug
Loughmiller at the following email address.

w...@sbcglobal.net

73 de

i8CVS Domenico

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From: ryan woods kd8...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 3:33 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Amsat Journal?

 What is going on with the journal I have not received one in a long
 time. I always enjoyed reading it. I know im still okay on my dues
 are up to date because I joined this year after moving out of my parents
 house.


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[amsat-bb] Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video

2012-10-17 Thread i8cvs
Hi Gus, 8P6SM

I agree with you !

Unfortunately there is now a huge trend to build more and more of these
shoe boxes (CubSat) to fly around earth.
I would not call them satellites, because just a box with some solar panels
does not make a real satellite.
As we see, most of them are almost useless, in particular for the ham
satellite community to communicate and they are a waste of money
and resources.
It's more like a prestige object for many Universities and their Professors.
What kind of science is it, to buy a ham radio hand held and modify it
for use on a shoe box ?
The wheels are re-invented again and again...
For us AMSAT'ers.. this is something we did almost 30 years ago This
is history and nothing like science anymore...
Instead it would be indeed better to build a HEO with advanced capabilities,
but no one seems to be interested in it...
At least  AMSAT-DL is working hard to get P3-E finished and launched soon,
but the mass flood of these CubeSats and other Nanosats makes it indeed
more difficult.

73 de

i8CVS Domenico

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From: Gus 8P6SM 8p...@anjo.com
To: Gordon JC Pearce gordon...@gjcp.net
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Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 4:28 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video


 On 10/17/2012 05:38 PM, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
  We're going to have to try coming up with clever satellites, rather than
  flying a bent-pipe box the size of a fridge.  No-one is going to want to
  lift that, without us paying full price.

 I may not be 100% on the 'bent pipe' definition, but if it means hams
 'talk' on the UP and other hams 'listens' on the DOWN, then that's what
 we need.  Whether it be the size of a fridge of a matchbox, if ham radio
 operators can't use it to communicate, then it's pretty pointless.  It
 don't matter how much telemetry it sends, how many LEDs it blinks, how
 clever the beacons, or what purty pictures it downlinks.  If hams can't
 use it to QSO, then why bother?

 --
 73, de Gus 8P6SM,
 Evil DXing ragchewer!

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[amsat-bb] Re: OH2AUE P3E transponder demo video

2012-10-17 Thread Robert Bruninga
Wow, a narrow self centric view of the world:

 a huge trend to build more and more of these shoe boxes..
 ... most of them are almost useless...
 What kind of science is it,...
 The wheels are re-invented again and again...
 For us AMSAT'ers.. this is something we did almost 30 years ago
 This is history and nothing like science anymore...

Please do not speak for me.  Obviously the writer above has no clue what
education is all about.

Guess what! Every single year, the teacher has to start EXACTLY back at
square ZERO.

That is what EDUCATION is all about.  Teaching each new year of students
the same thing over and over and over.  Its not fun... but it is
challenging...

Now I do not defend all repeats of stupid ideas and other mistakes, but
education is a repeating process every year by definition.

Now, if you want a different satellite built , THEN BUILD IT.  It does no
credit to lambast at least those that are DOING SOMETHING... even if it is
not what you want, then either build what you want, and launch it, or get
out of the way

I have not been following this thread at all.  So if my comments are
inappropriate, I apologize.  But some people  have no clue what it takes
to educate a completely new class starting over every year.

Bob, WB4APR
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