[amsat-bb] Re: ANDES-2 latest keps

2009-08-01 Thread Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF 
Hi Larry.

I'm not aware of decode software yet but the crib to help you is here
https://goby.nrl.navy.mil/ANDE/Castor.html and here
https://goby.nrl.navy.mil/ANDE/Pollux.html

To load the keps into Orbitron, cut the keps from the e-mail and paste into a 
text editor (notepad for instance)
Save it as a plain text file.
 From Orbitron, click "LOAD TLE" and find your text file.

FX25 interface details don't appear to be available yet.

I'm confused now about which object is which. Either space-Track has muddled 
them or they have swapped positions. I 
think the Space-Track mis-identification is more likely.


Larry Teran wrote:
> Hi! Niguel, I'm KI6YAA Larry from Calexico, I'm relatively new to 
> satellites, and I just started to play with APRS and Packet, so I will 
> apreciate your help if you tell me with software I can use to decode 
> ANDE telemetry, other question is how to load this Keps on orbitron. it 
> also mention on the website of ANDE that you can make or buy the 
> interface to work FX.25 do you know the link to that?
> 
> Tanks in advace!
> Larry KI6YAA
> 
> 
> 
>  > Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:48:58 +
>  > From: ni...@ngunn.net
>  > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
>  > Subject: [amsat-bb] ANDES-2 latest keps
>  >
>  > DRAGONSAT
>  > 1 35690U 09038B 09212.91855109 .00018552 0-0 98913-4 0 36
>  > 2 35690 051.6389 077.0804 0005263 092.7131 267.4479 15.80470389 220
>  > OBJECT C
>  > 1 35691U 09038C 09212.09676612 .00018444 0-0 1-3 0 14
>  > 2 35691 051.6400 081.3457 0001895 035.5288 324.5627 15.80114764 66
>  > OBJECT D
>  > 1 35692U 09038D 09212.91896738 .00041959 0-0 22207-3 0 29
>  > 2 35692 051.6403 077.0848 0003027 038.3721 321.7710 15.80132412 194
>  > OBJECT E
>  > 1 35693U 09038E 09212.91902338 .00010276 0-0 57669-4 0 23
>  > 2 35693 051.6411 077.0860 0003028 046.5336 313.5353 15.80001620 190
>  > OBJECT F
>  > 1 35694U 09038F 09213.04564151 .00010373 0-0 58515-4 0 36
>  > 2 35694 051.6419 076.4309 0004175 040.6052 319.5130 15.79870602 218
>  > OBJECT G
>  > 1 35695U 09038G 09212.91916068 .00017644 0-0 97025-4 0 26
>  > 2 35695 051.6424 077.0893 0003817 046.8198 313.2805 15.79836851 196
>  >
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[amsat-bb] Re: ANDES-2 latest keps

2009-08-01 Thread Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF 
Telemetry decode can be found here:
https://goby.nrl.navy.mil/ANDE/Main.html


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[amsat-bb] Re: ANDES-2 latest keps

2009-08-01 Thread Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF 
I don't know the order but I did publish a guess yesterday. That guess now 
doesn't appear correct.

If we project these keps forward a few days, the order of the satellites is 
clearly
D, Dragonsat, C, G, E, F. (D comes over first)

If we assume that the highest mass object will stay up longest, then Castor is 
object F, Pollux object E. Objects G and 
C are the cans that held the satellites at ejection time and object D is the 
seperator disk. (see pic here:

http://mt-milcom.blogspot.com/2009/07/navys-ande-2-launched-aboard-endeavour.html
 )
Dragonsat, with a mass of only 5KG fits in well with this assumption.

However, if we assume that drag is predominantly dependent on physical 
size/surface area, then the two end cans will 
fall fastest and Dragonsat now doesn't fit my model.

Any corrections to my assumption are welcomed.

Jeff Yanko wrote:
> Nigel,
> 
> Has anybody determined which "Objects" are Pollux and Castor?  From 
> looking at the keps, my assumption would be objects D and E.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Jeff  WB3JFS
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF" 
> 
> To: "Amsat-BB" 
> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:48 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] ANDES-2 latest keps
> 
> 
>> DRAGONSAT
>> 1 35690U 09038B   09212.91855109  .00018552  0-0  98913-4 036
>> 2 35690 051.6389 077.0804 0005263 092.7131 267.4479 15.80470389   220
>> OBJECT C
>> 1 35691U 09038C   09212.09676612  .00018444  0-0  1-3 014
>> 2 35691 051.6400 081.3457 0001895 035.5288 324.5627 15.8011476466
>> OBJECT D
>> 1 35692U 09038D   09212.91896738  .00041959  0-0  22207-3 029
>> 2 35692 051.6403 077.0848 0003027 038.3721 321.7710 15.80132412   194
>> OBJECT E
>> 1 35693U 09038E   09212.91902338  .00010276  0-0  57669-4 023
>> 2 35693 051.6411 077.0860 0003028 046.5336 313.5353 15.80001620   190
>> OBJECT F
>> 1 35694U 09038F   09213.04564151  .00010373  0-0  58515-4 036
>> 2 35694 051.6419 076.4309 0004175 040.6052 319.5130 15.79870602   218
>> OBJECT G
>> 1 35695U 09038G   09212.91916068  .00017644  0-0  97025-4 026
>> 2 35695 051.6424 077.0893 0003817 046.8198 313.2805 15.79836851   196
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> ALC, GCARES, XWARN.
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[amsat-bb] Re: ANDES-2 latest keps

2009-08-01 Thread Jeff Yanko 
Hi Mike and the group,

Due to being very busy on this end, I've yet to try copying the birds to 
test the keps, so I really can't deduce to which is which.  Your correct, 
they are still much too close to accurately name.


73,

Jeff  WB3JFS


- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Rupprecht" 
To: "'Jeff Yanko'" ; "'Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF'" 
; "'Amsat-BB'" 
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 4:03 AM
Subject: AW: [amsat-bb] Re: ANDES-2 latest keps


Hi,

I used OBJ E for the last pass with good results.
But I think they are too close together at the moment to say what is what.

73, Mike
DK3WN

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Auftrag von Jeff Yanko
Gesendet: Samstag, 1. August 2009 12:59
An: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF; Amsat-BB
Betreff: [amsat-bb] Re: ANDES-2 latest keps

Nigel,

Has anybody determined which "Objects" are Pollux and Castor?  From looking
at the keps, my assumption would be objects D and E.

73,

Jeff  WB3JFS


- Original Message - 
From: "Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF" 
To: "Amsat-BB" 
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:48 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANDES-2 latest keps


> DRAGONSAT
> 1 35690U 09038B   09212.91855109  .00018552  0-0  98913-4 036
> 2 35690 051.6389 077.0804 0005263 092.7131 267.4479 15.80470389   220
> OBJECT C
> 1 35691U 09038C   09212.09676612  .00018444  0-0  1-3 014
> 2 35691 051.6400 081.3457 0001895 035.5288 324.5627 15.8011476466
> OBJECT D
> 1 35692U 09038D   09212.91896738  .00041959  0-0  22207-3 029
> 2 35692 051.6403 077.0848 0003027 038.3721 321.7710 15.80132412   194
> OBJECT E
> 1 35693U 09038E   09212.91902338  .00010276  0-0  57669-4 023
> 2 35693 051.6411 077.0860 0003028 046.5336 313.5353 15.80001620   190
> OBJECT F
> 1 35694U 09038F   09213.04564151  .00010373  0-0  58515-4 036
> 2 35694 051.6419 076.4309 0004175 040.6052 319.5130 15.79870602   218
> OBJECT G
> 1 35695U 09038G   09212.91916068  .00017644  0-0  97025-4 026
> 2 35695 051.6424 077.0893 0003817 046.8198 313.2805 15.79836851   196
>
>
>
>
> -- 
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> 937 825 5032
> Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF),  e-mail ni...@ngunn.net   www
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> ALC, GCARES, XWARN.
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[amsat-bb] Re: ANDES-2 latest keps

2009-08-01 Thread Mike Rupprecht 
Hi,

I used OBJ E for the last pass with good results. 
But I think they are too close together at the moment to say what is what.

73, Mike
DK3WN

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Von: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] Im
Auftrag von Jeff Yanko
Gesendet: Samstag, 1. August 2009 12:59
An: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF; Amsat-BB
Betreff: [amsat-bb] Re: ANDES-2 latest keps

Nigel,

Has anybody determined which "Objects" are Pollux and Castor?  From looking 
at the keps, my assumption would be objects D and E.

73,

Jeff  WB3JFS


- Original Message - 
From: "Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF" 
To: "Amsat-BB" 
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:48 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANDES-2 latest keps


> DRAGONSAT
> 1 35690U 09038B   09212.91855109  .00018552  0-0  98913-4 036
> 2 35690 051.6389 077.0804 0005263 092.7131 267.4479 15.80470389   220
> OBJECT C
> 1 35691U 09038C   09212.09676612  .00018444  0-0  1-3 014
> 2 35691 051.6400 081.3457 0001895 035.5288 324.5627 15.8011476466
> OBJECT D
> 1 35692U 09038D   09212.91896738  .00041959  0-0  22207-3 029
> 2 35692 051.6403 077.0848 0003027 038.3721 321.7710 15.80132412   194
> OBJECT E
> 1 35693U 09038E   09212.91902338  .00010276  0-0  57669-4 023
> 2 35693 051.6411 077.0860 0003028 046.5336 313.5353 15.80001620   190
> OBJECT F
> 1 35694U 09038F   09213.04564151  .00010373  0-0  58515-4 036
> 2 35694 051.6419 076.4309 0004175 040.6052 319.5130 15.79870602   218
> OBJECT G
> 1 35695U 09038G   09212.91916068  .00017644  0-0  97025-4 026
> 2 35695 051.6424 077.0893 0003817 046.8198 313.2805 15.79836851   196
>
>
>
>
> -- 
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> 937 825 5032
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> http://www.ngunn.net
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> ALC, GCARES, XWARN.
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[amsat-bb] Re: ANDES-2 latest keps

2009-08-01 Thread Jeff Yanko 
Nigel,

Has anybody determined which "Objects" are Pollux and Castor?  From looking 
at the keps, my assumption would be objects D and E.

73,

Jeff  WB3JFS


- Original Message - 
From: "Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF" 
To: "Amsat-BB" 
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:48 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANDES-2 latest keps


> DRAGONSAT
> 1 35690U 09038B   09212.91855109  .00018552  0-0  98913-4 036
> 2 35690 051.6389 077.0804 0005263 092.7131 267.4479 15.80470389   220
> OBJECT C
> 1 35691U 09038C   09212.09676612  .00018444  0-0  1-3 014
> 2 35691 051.6400 081.3457 0001895 035.5288 324.5627 15.8011476466
> OBJECT D
> 1 35692U 09038D   09212.91896738  .00041959  0-0  22207-3 029
> 2 35692 051.6403 077.0848 0003027 038.3721 321.7710 15.80132412   194
> OBJECT E
> 1 35693U 09038E   09212.91902338  .00010276  0-0  57669-4 023
> 2 35693 051.6411 077.0860 0003028 046.5336 313.5353 15.80001620   190
> OBJECT F
> 1 35694U 09038F   09213.04564151  .00010373  0-0  58515-4 036
> 2 35694 051.6419 076.4309 0004175 040.6052 319.5130 15.79870602   218
> OBJECT G
> 1 35695U 09038G   09212.91916068  .00017644  0-0  97025-4 026
> 2 35695 051.6424 077.0893 0003817 046.8198 313.2805 15.79836851   196
>
>
>
>
> -- 
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> 937 825 5032
> Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF),  e-mail ni...@ngunn.net   www 
> http://www.ngunn.net
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